The Star Citizen Thread V10
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How is it hokey to point out that one game explicitly has a movement mechanic that overrides and nullifies all simulation and physics — there's no “supposedly” about it since we know this for a fact straight from the developer's mouth (and very in-depth probing by far more competent code slingers) — and one does not when the topic is on which one has the better flight model.
On game has a flight model. The other does not. It's just the simple.
You're right about the first part, but I have a sneaking suspicion you were trying to aim that at me, which makes very little sense…
…except that it has actual physics underneath that create those values, unlike Star Citizen, where the values come first and “physics” (or more accurately, the complete lack thereof) is generated to support those ridiculous values, creating a game feel that is about on par with a Atari 2600 with dodgy controls wiring.
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Looks to me, like less of a comparison & more like what the title implies: what it's like playing Star Citizen if you're an Elite Dangerous Cmdr
Unfortunately, Chris Roberts' has shown with Strike Commander, Freelancer, and the Wing Commander movie, he doesn't do well with "externally"-enforced deadlines - resulting in either incomplete (Freelancer, finished by Microsoft & Erin Roberts in 3yr) or subpar products (WC movie, StrCom).
If the investors have set any deadlines I cannot see this ending well.
A past with a released, continuously polished title to speak of.
I backed SC way back on the Kickstarter.
Someone wake me up when it's out, by that time I'll be well into my fifties I suspect.
That’s a Matter of perspective. Elite has a lot of place holders in it according to many here.
So you will be in your 50’s? Do you not plan on gaming then?
We are definitely different
I worked “my butt off” hard in my late teens, through my 30’s so I could retire at 40! I hit my goal and left at 43. But I digress.
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Whoa, you too? What a coincidenceWe are definitely different
I worked “my butt off” hard in my late teens, through my 30’s so I could retire at 40! I hit my goal and left at 43. But I digress.
Star Citizen has a floating camera for a flight mode. Planetside 1's Reaver and Mossie flight model is far more fleshed out. The ridiculous time it takes to warp to planets is also a dumb idea.
Have you tried mining in SC?
I prefer the overall mechanics of it over ED's...just saying, since I play in both as a miner...
Whoa, you too? What a coincidence
I had to get blown up by a 14 year old kid with an RPG to retire in my 40's...slightly less pleasing than a gold pocket watch.We are definitely different
I worked “my butt off” hard in my late teens, through my 30’s so I could retire at 40! I hit my goal and left at 43. But I digress.
No roadmapped repair, farming, science, exploration, aliens, faction warfare, VR, server meshing...
Will be interesting to see how no server meshing goes down if they actually add Microtech and make Crusader visit-able. That is a ton of play area to be running on one server.
I have. And maybe its the way the controls are setup, but, I do like mining in SC better.
I had to get blown up by a 14 year old kid with an RPG to retire in my 40's...slightly less pleasing than a gold pocket watch.
Don't make an assumption!!!! you know it what it means
Also, that sucks about the RPG.... Never fun when those come at you...
Not really, CIG aren't doing much that hasn't already been done a thousand times before. Its just CIG like to declare its never been done before and backers switch off their brains and accept it, rather than erm... taking a look at other games that already exist that do those things. When CIG do do something brand new, its usually something that has already been solved differently and easier, but because CIG found a more complciated way to do it, the stamp it as being more fidelitious and proclaim never been done before.
I've seen backers especially make all sorts of dumb proclalmations in regards to this. Unrivaled graphics (there are console games with better graphics already), no other game has as much playable area (umm... NMS, ED, etc), no other game has so much to do (absoloutely bonkers).
Local physics grids (which seem to be a major source of bugs) has been solved in various ways that work, GTA, Ark, etc. Advanced AI (aka Subsumption) has been done to death in other games and works, yet is still not evident in SC. You mention animinations, once again, CIG claimining never been done before with things that have been done before, eg: inverse kimietics.
I haven't seen one bit of tech produced by CIG yet that they could package off and sell as something to other companies that isn't already available to them, and of course, what they have is tied to CryEngine/Lumberyard for the most part, not exactly the most popular platform.
In short, i wouldn't expect this to happen.
…not to mention that the “design process” they've created is one of the slowest, most inefficient, least productive, most unfocused and delayed things that have ever graced the games industry. It's not something anyone would want to emulate, much less buy as a product. Maybe if CIG could figure out a remedy for CIG:ism, that would be a viable product that someone would want to part with money for.
A dev process protection racket sounds like it would be a perfect moral fit for CRobber et al.
A dev process protection racket sounds like it would be a perfect moral fit for CRobber et al.
They can sell themselves as a vaccine. The shattered remains of a terrible project and what not to do to inoculate yourselves against the same process (79% of it is not let Chris Roberts near a job). 
I am so sorry...considering it's a gaming forum my first though was that was one immature GM and then my brain kicked in after the morning coffee when i realized you did not speak about Role Playing Games...I had to get blown up by a 14 year old kid with an RPG to retire in my 40's...slightly less pleasing than a gold pocket watch.
Okay.. so I took another look at the roadmap for SQ42. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they using a pre-existing engine? You know, one for FPS games? Then why do they have to make swimming work? And AI using weapons? And Death animations? And melee? Also.. player jump v2.. the.. wut?
EDIT: Also, the most important question. Why now? What exactly were they doing in the last 7 years?
EDIT: Also, the most important question. Why now? What exactly were they doing in the last 7 years?
I can just imagine "We cheesed our way through a dungeon he spent weeks building, so he rage flipped and dropped Baba Yaga's Freakin' Hut on our heads!"
Yes, a pre-existing FPS engine.
And yes, it does appear that they're creating standard FPS engine things from scratch, instead of using the functionality included with CryEngine/Lumberyard.
As to why after 7 years...
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