The Star Citizen Thread V10
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TOPIC: are we the baddies?
Unfortunately, I don't have an hour and a half to watch Gordon Freeman talk about a game that doesn't exist, can you give us a TLDR?
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Unfortunately, I don't have an hour and a half to watch Gordon Freeman talk about a game that doesn't exist, can you give us a TLDR?
The pinguins survive, but climate change is going to be the end of us all eventually.
Ah sorry, thought it was Morgan.
I love the fact in his quote he referring to the PS4/Xbone as next gen and both are due to be supplanted next year, and still no game...Ahh - the heady days of way back (cuffs back a tear) https://www.pcgamer.com/chris-rober...l-never-be-dumbed-down-for-a-lesser-platform/
Problem is - it doesn't really matter what platform they develop for. There is still no game, and what there is runs like something stinky on even ridiculous PC builds that cost more than new cars. Remember when the more enthusiastic backers were blaming weak rigs and poor internet connections for the completely abysmal performance? Well, some people got together and built completely ridiculous rigs as a collaborative effort and plugged direct into an enterprise internet backbone just to show it made not one iota of difference. Even on enterprise kit it stunk. I know this, because I remember it, because I was one of them.
Just how poorly it'll perform on a console, even a next-gen one that isn't a netbook with a pretty ribbon and bow for show, remains to be seen - but it's going to be hilarious
Nah mate, I just play the game every day.
You know... for fun.
Kinda like I used to do with Elite Dangerous.
But then I'm an avid PvPer, so the only figures I'm really interested in are the ones affecting ship and weapon performance.
I'll leave the worrying about player counts to you guys, unless I run out of victims...
I love the fact in his quote he referring to the PS4/Xbone as next gen and both are due to be supplanted next year, and still no game...
Kind of delicious isn't it? An entire generation of gaming hardware comes and goes, and CI-G cannot deliver even one game in that timeframe.
There's no worry my dear Zaphod! Nuking PvP-pro-bro scrublets in SC is just as easy as it is in any other game where nuking PvP-pro-bro scrublets is necessary and/or just fun to extract their tears for lulz.
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Or slow everything down a bit (in terms of accelerations, not speed of course), make it "world of warships IN SPACE !" and have tons of fun still. There's also the issue that lasers in SC actually move really slow, slow enough that some ships can actually dodge them. A bit more "realistic" lasers like in Elite Dangerous would help a lot on the target tracking from turrets for instance. Or if they insist on keeping slow moving projectiles, then have a go at the warships in space approach. At least, that would make a lot more sense.
Uhuh. Pretty sure I saw you on my E: D kill list.
Kinda hard not being a scrublet when you're always playing drunk, eh?
Uhuh. Pretty sure I saw you on my E: D kill list.
Kinda hard not being a scrublet when you're always playing drunk, eh?
Playing drunk isn't just a choice, its a lifestyle
And ill say this, if you are looking to SC for PvP, then its going to have some possibilities. For the moment though, PvE play is badly lacking.
Perhaps CIG should really capitalize on this, acknowledge that getting a lot of the PvE stuff in is going to take a long long time and focus on fleshing out the PvP possibilities of the game. That way it would stand apart from ED instead of being in its shadow.
Its a spicy one. Twerk takes another small step towards becoming a skeptic as well. I think he even says something like he is now more skeptical than he has been before or more skeptical than hopeful... somewhere near the start if i recall correctly.
Agreed.Playing drunk isn't just a choice, its a lifestyle
And ill say this, if you are looking to SC for PvP, then its going to have some possibilities. For the moment though, PvE play is badly lacking.
Perhaps CIG should really capitalize on this, acknowledge that getting a lot of the PvE stuff in is going to take a long long time and focus on fleshing out the PvP possibilities of the game. That way it would stand apart from ED instead of being in its shadow.
I lost something like 150k uec the other day trying to play space trucker.
A peaceful life is just not in the cards for 'ol Zaphod.
Love the replies, in a nutshell: "It's fine, because I roleplay it, yo"
checkmate FUDster!
Yeah, that vid, and the stretch goals, aren't ageing well
Even the most die-hard of backers has already knocked the '100 systems at launch' rook off the board though. Some have cast their '1000 player shard' queen to the side too. I bet there's at least one concierge member who has doubts about the 'personal pets' bishop. And others who think the 'landing on Earth' knight is full of horsecrap. Some even whisper that the 9:1 army of NPC pawns, with Nemesis System emergent narratives & persistent background activities, might end up a bunch of mindless battle fodder....
It's shocking, I know.
I think against that backdrop, letting the PC Master Race crown slip wouldn't be seen as conceding the game. (Lord knows how many pieces would be left on the board though
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Dam you Agony Aunt, You owe me a new piggy bank. I smashed mine and raced off down Woolworths only to find that not only had Woolys gone bust but it was all a ruse!!!!!
No idea what the "Nemesis System" refers to (the only thing that comes to mind is the cyborg movie Nemesis by Albert Pyun), but there is no way that the 9:1 NPC thing or Roberts' emergent AI theorycrafting is going to be implemented. The level of complexity and detail implied in Robert's 9:1 NPC model was 5 years ago, it is now and it will be in 5 years too.
Oh - Nemesis was part of the procedurally generated enemy entity in Shadow of Mordor, a 3rd person slasher.
It basically generated NPC's with a name, a look, a title and some speech routes they went through when you met them again after they had killed you, and there was a higher-tier gameplay based around killing them all off.
It wasn't exactly ultra-impressive stuff - but console peeps went nuts over it, perhaps possibly because none of them had played games with procedurally generated NPC's before. They've been around for a long time.
Behold the vision of Chris Roberts! Over 4 years ago:
Hey, I was PC peep and I liked it
. Especially the amount of effort they put into the presentation (insane amounts of audio + suitable motion tagged to character, always in-keeping with the physical look of the starter model, with stacking references to past encounters). The mechanics were thin (add resistances / fears based on past encounters, iirc). But the dedicated effort was clearly large. Which made Chris throwing it out there as "oh we'll top that easy" in another Ten for the Stretchman ep yet another sign of giddy talking before walking...
Hey, I was PC peep and I liked it
The mechanics were thin (add resistances / fears based on past encounters, iirc). But the dedicated effort was clearly large. Which made Chris throwing it out there as "oh we'll top that easy" in another Ten for the Stretchman ep yet another sign of giddy talking before walking...
Oh definitely - it was fun for it's time - and finding out some random NPC who stabbed you suddenly turned into Rushak the Maggotlord or whatever, definitely generated lulz. Thing is - how can CI-G take this mechanic and apply it to their own project? How is Genuine Roberts going to take a system that caters to individual player actions with specific NPC entities and develop a interaction path that applies equally to all players in the scene in a meaningful way?
My guess is he can't - and it's all waffle.
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