Do you think the reported developer numbers are faked, too? If not, where does CIG get all that money to pay them?
See on the one hand I'd agree with you when simply looking at the very low perceived active userbase.
On the other hand hand... their reddit has an average monthly sub growth of ~2750.
Even if you'd consider a conversion rate of 25% that'd still put them at exactly 11k monthly accounts, and honestly... 25% player-to-reddit conversion rate would be incredibly high for a game.
Elite's is closer to 5%, LoL and Overwatch are roughly 3%, R6 Siege and CSGO are closer to 2%
As incredulous as it is to believe that people are still throwing money at what a bunch of us perceive as a trainwreck of a project... they do some good marketing and new players will not have the same history as long term backers might not be scared off (yet) by the negativity some in here feel towards CIG.
The funding tracker is a different matter altogether, but someone here brought up the valid point that they would've most likely gone out of bussiness a couple months ago if that cash flow wasn't at least mostly accurate.
At the end of the day if you look at how easily a game like Ashes of Creation accrues multiple millions worth of kickstarter money and tens of thousands of fans by doing exactly the same as CR (promising any nerd's wet dream with no regard for technological feasibility or professional experience)... I think it's actually safer to just bet on the peerless depths of human stupidity than on outright lies :T
Dunno, I would imagine that developer salaries are the biggest expense in the software development.
The same individual can have a lot of reddit accounts. With the obsession of fans to show suppport for the game that is not something that should be discarded. That's why I think that counting reddits, specially in the SC case, where people have this agenda, does not say too much.
The whales spent thousands of dollars on it. Something that does not happen with other games. You are underestimating their resolve and "need" to support SC by whatever means they have in their hands.By this same logic, these individuals would have equally as many duplicate SC accounts. It's not "new" players, but it doesn't make their website metrics false.
I would love to agree with you on the suspiciousness of a tracker that's CIG-only without any unbiased proof of the numbers, but the hard statistics we do have access to are in favour of the assumption that there's just this many people in the world to dupe into buying before trying.
Again, never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I am not sure that in general terms, as an outsider looking to the game industry as a whole, they would consider Star Citizen high profile. I don't think that its absurd. You are also assuming that all people on shady business are not stupid. Most of them actually are very stupid.
Well...Croberts certainly not wearing an Stocking Mask on his head and yelling this is a robbery....c´mon...dude..he ain´t stupid...I mean we can all assume that he is possibly doing some kind of shady business but to prove that in court ....pffff..thats far...very far away from reality....
Certainly. For courts there are other things that can make RSI business to end without need of actual crimes needed to be proven. And the proves are public domain. Not even necessary to check their books for that.
....Good luck with that........
Unless I had access to your birth certificate.
*sigh*
No, then still not. You missed the point. Lying is not the same as saying something that isnt true. Lying means you know it isnt true, at the time of saying it. Even if you knew my name for a fact, and knew I said my name is something else, you still dont know if I said a lie. All you know is I said something that isnt true. There is never 100% certainty of someone lying. If you dont get that, you either dont know what the definition of lying is, what 100% means, what certainty means or how the brain works.
lolhe ain´t stupid
See on the one hand I'd agree with you when simply looking at the very low perceived active userbase.
On the other hand hand... their reddit has an average monthly sub growth of ~2750.
Even if you'd consider a conversion rate of 25% that'd still put them at exactly 11k monthly accounts, and honestly... 25% player-to-reddit conversion rate would be incredibly high for a game.
Elite's is closer to 5%, LoL and Overwatch are roughly 3%, R6 Siege and CSGO are closer to 2%
As incredulous as it is to believe that people are still throwing money at what a bunch of us perceive as a trainwreck of a project... they do some good marketing and new players will not have the same history as long term backers might not be scared off (yet) by the negativity some in here feel towards CIG.
The funding tracker is a different matter altogether, but someone here brought up the valid point that they would've most likely gone out of bussiness a couple months ago if that cash flow wasn't at least mostly accurate.
At the end of the day if you look at how easily a game like Ashes of Creation accrues multiple millions worth of kickstarter money and tens of thousands of fans by doing exactly the same as CR (promising any nerd's wet dream with no regard for technological feasibility or professional experience)... I think it's actually safer to just bet on the peerless depths of human stupidity than on outright lies :T
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