So I didn't find anything, but I suspect that maybe "8 + WEST" is actually a clue, so maybe there's other clues as to what to do next to get more info from it.Good luckwhile your doing that.. i really need to go to bed
Catch you all later
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Quick question, what rock were the geology and security teams living under?
At 55 years and counting the 1st Thargoid war was well under way at the time. It wouldn't halt for another 80 or so years. I think barnacles were new but thargoid ships certainly weren't.
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And on the flipside of tin-foil-hattery, when was the first jump capable megaship commissioned? I don't recall any megaships or references to them in the 1st couple of Elite games (with the possible exception of the Dark Wheel station ). Anyone with a better memory than mine?
At 55 years and counting the 1st Thargoid war was well under way at the time. It wouldn't halt for another 80 or so years. I think barnacles were new but thargoid ships certainly weren't.
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And on the flipside of tin-foil-hattery, when was the first jump capable megaship commissioned? I don't recall any megaships or references to them in the 1st couple of Elite games (with the possible exception of the Dark Wheel station
). Anyone with a better memory than mine?
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You mean why didn't they know about Thargoids?
I figured Thargoids werent known on the 3100s or at least were top secret stuff back then. I haven't bothered checking that. Eitherway, the NPCs and the articles act like Thargoids are a myth everytime something happens even to this day
Apologies, my bad.
Elite Dangerous lore DOES put 1st contact after the Adamastor.
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(I am still wondering about an FTL megaship in that era though...)
Elite Dangerous lore DOES put 1st contact after the Adamastor.
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(I am still wondering about an FTL megaship in that era though...)
Yep, looks like it's been worked out.
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The 8 at the start means "Take every 8th character" by the looks, and if you get that you get a clean first line (and all the other characters are junk padding), and you also get the lat + star class from the Adamastor's logs.
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Jay Le Chardon, post: 8780339, member: 116277"] A second clue for the location / the fix? I had a similar matrix, 8 letters wide (using the first number in the code as the clue) and, of course, LONG and WEST are very conspicuous. But I had excluded the spaces, so LYBODY did not show up ...
The 8 at the start means "Take every 8th character" by the looks, and if you get that you get a clean first line (and all the other characters are junk padding), and you also get the lat + star class from the Adamastor's logs.
Bingo, I think that's the solution right there.
Putting my thoughts in a spoiler:
Writing out the suggested solution a bit more neatly, and highlighting the crucial bits, we get:
The above text is simply the result of applying a cylinder cipher with stride 8. This fits very nicely for a few reasons:
By that last point I mean, that typically LP puzzles followed a set pattern. By visiting multiple listening posts, you would get different but linked messages that would all indicate a rough distance (allowing triangulation), would typically put the target latitude and longitude in different messages, and would put different parts of the body identification in each message. In the case of the Adamastor puzzle, the one distance (615 LY) is here and rather precise, while a second less-precise distance (300 LY from a nebula) is given at the Sidewinder. Similarly, we have the longitude of Geo Survey 23B here, and the latitude in the Adamastor ship log. Finally, we have the body number here (BODY 3), and the star class and body type (M class ... metal) in the Adamastor log.
The only real oddity is the line break between LONG:- and 38.0. One wonders if there is perhaps a typo that adds an extra character in the LP message, because otherwise the decoded message would fit neatly on the first rank of descrambled text. Or perhaps it was intentional, to make the solution a little harder to spot.
Code:
8LONG:-RRU145GTW12.61.32
BU06JF538.0 615 LYBODY 3
F663I574+5 6435TY-TR3544
G7.- 64.W RT-4.H 4JT4D5
T-47E3.6E-T.2.4E75-41ST
YR546-9-SRHW12 46TY3- Y
4T:P72 DTT8R G24G.762-
PYGH-1EE G-4+RD..4 .743The above text is simply the result of applying a cylinder cipher with stride 8. This fits very nicely for a few reasons:
- The key is provided: the highlighted digit 8 is the first character of the message
- Little waste: the secret message is spread through the entire length of the LP ciphertext
- It fits the typical pattern of Listening Post puzzles.
By that last point I mean, that typically LP puzzles followed a set pattern. By visiting multiple listening posts, you would get different but linked messages that would all indicate a rough distance (allowing triangulation), would typically put the target latitude and longitude in different messages, and would put different parts of the body identification in each message. In the case of the Adamastor puzzle, the one distance (615 LY) is here and rather precise, while a second less-precise distance (300 LY from a nebula) is given at the Sidewinder. Similarly, we have the longitude of Geo Survey 23B here, and the latitude in the Adamastor ship log. Finally, we have the body number here (BODY 3), and the star class and body type (M class ... metal) in the Adamastor log.
The only real oddity is the line break between LONG:- and 38.0. One wonders if there is perhaps a typo that adds an extra character in the LP message, because otherwise the decoded message would fit neatly on the first rank of descrambled text. Or perhaps it was intentional, to make the solution a little harder to spot.
Ninja'ed you there, though credit where it needs to go @simbaaz got there before me
There's a space in there where there shouldn't be which offsets the line.
I remember thinking the last line of the LP text seemed almost out of place, as if it was separate from the first couple lines, maybe that could clean it up?Ninja'ed you there, though credit where it needs to go @simbaaz got there before me
Lol, indeed, I should have been ever so slightly more concise. Although evidently, going by the post I linked to, the solution had been sitting in the other thread for half a day already, so we're all laggards here!Ninja'ed you there, though credit where it needs to go @simbaaz got there before me
Yeah, I think people are just plain exhausted by this
The Spanish version has an additional character in the message, due to the translation of WEST (OESTE)
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Put this in the other forum, so asking here as well...
Did any one play with this as yet...??? may be the key is the first 8 characters?
https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/secret-agent-chat/10
Did any one play with this as yet...??? may be the key is the first 8 characters?
https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/secret-agent-chat/10
You know what feeling when you figure it out, and come to post it, but someone does it a few minutes before?
Well anyways, in case anyone is curious, I checked skipping indices not only 8 spaces, but all between 2 and 187. Every 8th was the only to produce any interesting strings. One of the really high n's I chose threw a GOD word, but other than that, just gibberish.
Well anyways, in case anyone is curious, I checked skipping indices not only 8 spaces, but all between 2 and 187. Every 8th was the only to produce any interesting strings. One of the really high n's I chose threw a GOD word, but other than that, just gibberish.
Also, for fun, I ran the french version through it:
Thinking along these lines, perhaps there's more to it that clears up the gibberish. LONG and BODY
Code:
English
8LONG:-RRU14615 LYBODY 3YR546-9-SRHR G24G.762-F663I574+5 T-4.H 4JT4D5 PYGH-1EE G-5GTW12.61.32T-47E3.6E-TW12 46TY3- YBU06JF538.06435TY-TR35444T:P72 DTT84+RD..4 .743G7.- 64.W R.2.4E75-41ST
(or LONG:-38.0:-435TY-JT4D5-)
French
8LONG:-RR G-5GTW12.61.32YR546-9-S-TW12 46TY3- YF663I574+.06435TY-TR3544PYGH-1EEET84+RD..4 .743T-47E3.6E R.2.4E75-41STBU06JF538U14615 LYBODY 34T:P72 DTRHR G24G.762-G7.- 64.O5 T-4.H 4JT4D5
(or LONG:-38U14-435TY-JT4D5-)
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If you assume the space between "574.9" and "ER34.6" shouldn't have been there, then every 8th character spells out
"LONG:-38.0 615 LYBODY 3"
"LONG:-38.0 615 LYBODY 3"
Do you have to be a bit crazy to join?
And crazy too, we voluntarily want to protect humanity which does not even pose any threats the universe carries!Do you have to be a bit crazy to join?
Sorry if this has been mentioned above (now 68 pages to wade thru),,,
Approaching the 'Geological Survey Site 23B' at high altitude and a steep approach angle; a Thargoid ship was seen to take off from either the Barnacle site or Survey site then vanish in the usual black cloud/wake.... anyone else see this or were we hallucinating? o7
Edit: Here's the pictures of a later such encounter....
Source: https://imgur.com/a/zRjcK2v
Approaching the 'Geological Survey Site 23B' at high altitude and a steep approach angle; a Thargoid ship was seen to take off from either the Barnacle site or Survey site then vanish in the usual black cloud/wake.... anyone else see this or were we hallucinating? o7
Edit: Here's the pictures of a later such encounter....
Source: https://imgur.com/a/zRjcK2v
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