from what I've read so far, there is a lot of hate towards the type-7 as a mining vessel, however, there are some who seem to rather like it. So I'm just raising a sort of 'poll' on here for all those who have used the type-7, how it flies, capabilities, etc. I have heard that it does remarkably well when getting interdicted, but I have never flown one myself so I really could not say. If not the type 7, what ships do make for good mining ships?
The Type-7 as a mining ship?
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Having mined in an adder, cobra 3, asp explorer, python, type 9 and corvette (overkill but amazing), my vote goes for the python. Can't speak to the type 7 but if it's similar to a type 9 is say it's doable, just not super agile and probably has weak firepower and speed.
Seriously though ~ 80 mill gets a pretty sweet python with around 200 cargo and 8 collector limpets, 8 bin refinery plus some shields and 3 large pulse lasers. The bonus is that the distributor on the python is so good you can fire 2 medium mining lasers forever too.
Seriously though ~ 80 mill gets a pretty sweet python with around 200 cargo and 8 collector limpets, 8 bin refinery plus some shields and 3 large pulse lasers. The bonus is that the distributor on the python is so good you can fire 2 medium mining lasers forever too.
I used a type 7 for mining to help pay for my Python. It is doable BUT you will struggle when you drop into 'the rings' if any NPCs are around, you either take an age to kill them or you will have to wake out. I was so glad when I got the credits for the miner Python I even flew it without insurance!
You sir, are a braver man than I. and what do you mean 'struggling' to drop into rings?
I love the T7 for mining. Fit some good thrusters & she travels through the belts with ease. Fantasic cockpit view which is always a good thing.
I avarage 2.5-3.5 mil per run.
I avarage 2.5-3.5 mil per run.
T7 is fine for mining. I mined in one for a while before I got a T9. A mining build gets you 190+ Tonnes cargo space which allows for more limpets, more ore and more profit.
Just beware that it is useless at combat - if you are interdicted, submit, chaff and high wake
If pirates come calling while you're mining, run for your life!
Just beware that it is useless at combat - if you are interdicted, submit, chaff and high wake
If pirates come calling while you're mining, run for your life!T7 is fine for mining. I mined in one for a while before I got a T9. A mining build gets you 190+ Tonnes cargo space which allows for more limpets, more ore and more profit.
Just beware that it is useless at combat - if you are interdicted, submit, chaff and high wake
another person here said that the Federal Dropship made for a good mining ship as well, how would the two compare?
FDS is a good miner - unlike the T7, it will execute any NPC without too much trouble. However a mining FDS will have less cargo space (maybe 112 Tonnes?).
It just depends what your play style is - if you want to kill while you mine, get the FDS
If you want maximum profit for your budget, get the T7
I haven't done much mining myself and when I did used a Cobra / Python / T6 .. Found the Python to be the most suitable.
I haven't tried a T7 but I suspect it's like a T6 and like others said they aren't the most agile. Certainly has the room though for plenty of cargo / hoppers / etc.
I haven't tried a T7 but I suspect it's like a T6 and like others said they aren't the most agile. Certainly has the room though for plenty of cargo / hoppers / etc.
The main problem with a T7 as a miner is the small hard points. If that's all you're used to then you'll be OK but if you've got used to the speed of size 2 mining lasers it'll drag.
T7 is trash, for the same price range you can buy a federal drop ship
Which has:
Medium hard points
A large hard point and two extra mediums
A bigger pd - much bigger, we're talking 3 v 6
Has much better attitude controls
And the drop ship has a really robust hull, you can fly it shieldless
Only thing the t7 has going for it is bigger cargo space, but mining isn't about how much you can mine but how fast you mine it - and the fds beats the t7 hands down
Which has:
Medium hard points
A large hard point and two extra mediums
A bigger pd - much bigger, we're talking 3 v 6
Has much better attitude controls
And the drop ship has a really robust hull, you can fly it shieldless
Only thing the t7 has going for it is bigger cargo space, but mining isn't about how much you can mine but how fast you mine it - and the fds beats the t7 hands down
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It's also about what you mine - no point mining out 100 tonnes of gallite
More cargo space equals more prospector limpets equals more throws of the dice to find the good stuff quickly
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i mine in an Asp, and a python. other ships i tried was a clipper and a cutter.
pythons powerdistributor does the trick, otherwise i'd prefer a clipper. and cutter - i'm not patient enough for a mining session in a cutter.
so python is my sweet spot, running 3 medium mining lasers and 9 or 10 collectors.
pythons powerdistributor does the trick, otherwise i'd prefer a clipper. and cutter - i'm not patient enough for a mining session in a cutter.
so python is my sweet spot, running 3 medium mining lasers and 9 or 10 collectors.
It's also about what you mine - no point mining out 100 tonnes of gallite
More cargo space equals more prospector limpets equals more throws of the dice to find the good stuff quickly
This is true but it all balances out in the end. You've got more cargo space so you can carry more limpets but you have to hit more good roids to fill it. I've mined in a sidewinder [wacko] which most people would think is impractical to say the least. But fire the laser to get the first fragment and if it looks like its got some good stuff fire a prospector and collector and mine it. With 4 Cargo you only need low grade prospectors and collectors and you'll fill the hold.
The, somewhat labored, point I'm making is you only need 2 or 3 limpets (about half the hold) in sidewinder and that scales through all ships.
The difference with a size 1 laser and a size 2 is far more pronounced. The T7 will take way longer to to fill than anything with medium hardpoints. I suppose you could say as long as the initial NPC interaction isn't a pirate then you won't get another one till you leave and come back but in the drop ship that isn't an issue anyway as it'll kill most things.
I really enjoy flying the T7, it's a very nice and underrated ship. It sounds like you have access to a Dropship though, and that's what I'd recommend. It's the ship that first make me really enjoy mining.
I've since moved on to a mining Python, and most recently trying out my Anaconda as a hybrid miner/explorer. Still miss that Dropship though.
I've since moved on to a mining Python, and most recently trying out my Anaconda as a hybrid miner/explorer. Still miss that Dropship though.
I never died in the one I tried but that's because I only tried it. Because I played the original back in 84 I went Sidewinder -> Cobra -> Asp -> Python. Only when I had money to spare did I try the T6 (which I grew to love after some initial worries) then the T7. Just bought both stock and took them out to see how they flew. As I said the T6 fine. The T7!
"Temperature Critical" - what I'm only jumping to another system
not even near the star!!Got interdicted ...
By a sidewinder!
Only just made it (stock T7 with fixed puny lasers against a small maneuverable ship - well that's my excuse).
So I parked it and never went back. Put me off the T series so it was ages till I tried the T9. Which I fell in love with almost instantly [where is it] - well I liked it a lot
- coughs - anyway this thread is about mining so this is off topic.My love for the T9 - I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it!