Community Event / Creation Thrustmaster Warthog Configuration & Sheets

Commanderhumpster · Aug 26, 2014

Thanks for the reply.

Hi i am not actually seeing the heatsinks eject, just when i go to buy munitions they always seem to be missing. Nothing seems to be happening in the event viewer. the eject heatsink is on the defualt bining in the scrip mikeytt modified (engine operate, right, flick up in game its bound to joy 32.

anongw65 · Aug 26, 2014

Commanderhumpster said:
Thanks for the reply.

Hi i am not actually seeing the heatsinks eject, just when i go to buy munitions they always seem to be missing. Nothing seems to be happening in the event viewer. the eject heatsink is on the defualt bining in the scrip mikeytt modified (engine operate, right, flick up in game its bound to joy 32.

One thing that I noticed on my setup, before I changed it to better suit my gameplay, is that the speedbrake button (I forgot which position) also came up as button 32! At least I think it was the speedbrake. However, the important this is that "button 32" seemed to be assigned to multiple throttle buttons.

I'd say to go into ED's options menu, and see where "button 32" is assigned. From there, if that doesn't point you in the right direction, I'd "unassign" the switch in the TARGET software.

I hope this helps.

Commanderhumpster · Aug 26, 2014

Cheers went and checked remapped the button assignment for heatsink deployment to the original button E. Then remapped Target to use E as well. Problem still exists so maybe a bug. Will post in the main group.

Ty for your help

J

Nomex · Aug 27, 2014

Here is my setup for the Warthog HOTAS (work in progress):

Joystick

Throttle

Feel free to comment

Notes for work in progress (help is appreciated):

' Find a way to script the exponential curves to a toggle key on the throttle

' Light flash is done by spamming the L key (wonder how E

will handle that)

' Toggle yaw is temporary till I get my pedals

Brun · Aug 27, 2014

Nomex said:
' Light flash is done by spamming the L key (wonder how E will handle that)

For commands like that which are either repeated or held, it's a good idea to map them to one of the Warthog's DX buttons and remap the function in-game.

This will get around the obvious problems which will occur if you leave the lights flashing while trying to enter text.

Viking84 · Aug 27, 2014

Is there a blank version of the configuration sheet? Would be good to add to a word/pdf file and edit the definitions as I change them to suit

Nomex · Aug 27, 2014

Viking84 said:
Is there a blank version of the configuration sheet? Would be good to add to a word/pdf file and edit the definitions as I change them to suit

Empty Joystick Sheet

Empty Throttle Sheet

Viking84 · Aug 27, 2014

Thanks! Now I just have to find the right bindings, and practise enough not to suck. Took me a good 20 minutes to finish off the guy in the third combat mission... me thinks I will be needing gimballed weapons!

Nomex · Aug 28, 2014

I'm no expert in combat (yet) but for precision work try to mess a bit with the response curves on X and Y axis, adding 2-3 nudges on the positive side gives you a much smoother feeling when aiming.

Responce Curve example

dtt255 · Aug 28, 2014

Ok I am having some real issues with my setup right now and am looking for any help or input at this point.

When I first started using the game I had used the keyboard and mouse as I didn't have any stuff prepared.

So I went and bought the Warthog HOTAS. Fell in love at first feel!

Anyway, I play E : D on my laptop at two places, work and home. (perks of being the CEO)

When I use the m/k combo all is fine. When I get home and plug in the HOTAS again....I have to redo all the bindings. Fine I get that, its a beta and doesn't save the stuff.

Here is the issue. It is SO sluggish in the pitch rolling. ALOT of DEAD zone, ALOT. I went to the settings and pushed the sliders ALL the way to the other side to see what kind of difference that makes. None. None at all.

I am really confused. Can any give me any insight?

Thanks
DTT

Nomex · Aug 28, 2014

dtt255 said:
Ok I am having some real issues...
DTT

What profile do you use ingame? I think the Warthog profile (appears when your not using TARGET software) is not complete, I've seen it mentioned somewhere that they are fixing it in next beta patch.

Use the Generic Joystick profile and my recomendations would also be to setup a TARGET profile to run in the background.

You could also check the hardware with windows calibration tool but I'm pretty sure it must be a issue in game.

dtt255 · Aug 28, 2014

Nomex said:
What profile do you use ingame? I think the Warthog profile (appears when your not using TARGET software) is not complete, I've seen it mentioned somewhere that they are fixing it in next beta patch.

Use the Generic Joystick profile and my recomendations would also be to setup a TARGET profile to run in the background.

You could also check the hardware with windows calibration tool but I'm pretty sure it must be a issue in game.

I don't use the TARGET software, I remember reading somewhere that I shouldn't use it with E : D. Am I wrong about this?

Nomex · Aug 28, 2014

Well, I use it without any problems. It might take a little time to get used to but still has my recommendations. Besides if you add up the times you reconfigure ingame, you'll be hapy to spend 30 minute on TARGET.

dtt255 · Aug 28, 2014

Nomex said:
Well, I use it without any problems. It might take a little time to get used to but still has my recommendations. Besides if you add up the times you reconfigure ingame, you'll be hapy to spend 30 minute on TARGET.

Can you explain how it works with the game?

I guess I don't understand how it sets things up VS the in game control settings.

Nomex · Aug 29, 2014

You basically just bind to the different buttons and leave the ingame settings on default, run TARGET and turn your joystick into a virtual keyboard, aside from the axis.

Youtube guide
Axis curves

Brun · Sep 1, 2014

I've got a few suggestions for Warthog users, thought they might be of some use:

Firstly, I find the speedbrake switch perfectly suited for Flight Assist. In TARGET assign the same DX button to both forward and back, then in-game bind that to FA and make sure it's in 'hold' mode rather than toggle.

The way the switch is designed means holding it back will disable FA temporarily while it's held, or pushing it forward can be used to keep it switched off.

A bit more advanced, but one really good reason to use the script editor rather than the GUI is the 'TEMPO' command. This is a (relatively) simple function which allows you to assign different commands to any button depending on whether they're pressed or held briefly, as in the real A-10. While this isn't strictly necessary for ED because there are relatively few commands (compared to a typical flight sim) it can make things a bit neater.

For example, with whatever switch you use to control the UI it allows you to get up/down/left/right and prev/next tab all on the one button. Pressing left or right works as you'd expect, but holding left or right briefly (duration is customisable, I use 250ms) will switch tabs. Works really well in practice.

I've also used it on the power management switch, where holding any of the buttons will send four quick presses to maximise that setting.

I also remapped the throttle so that 0-30 is reverse, 30-40 a zero-throttle deadzone (although I might reduce that slightly) and 40-100 is forward. Gives a bit more control over forward speed at the expense of reverse being slightly more sensitive.

Posting from work so don't have the code for this to hand. Will add it this evening on the off chance anyone might find it useful.

Brun · Sep 1, 2014

Here's the script for the UI, this uses the throttle's mic switch (MS*). Note that I'm using the numpad 8,2,4,6 (Up,Down,Left,Right) 7,9 (Prev/Next tab) and 5 (Select). The '250' is the length of time (in milliseconds) the button is held before it issues the second command.

Code:

MapKey(&Throttle, MSU, KP8);					//UI Up
MapKey(&Throttle, MSR, TEMPO(PULSE+KP6, PULSE+KP9, 250));	//UI Right, Page Right
MapKey(&Throttle, MSD, KP2);				    	//UI Down
MapKey(&Throttle, MSL, TEMPO(PULSE+KP4, PULSE+KP7, 250));	//UI Left, Page Left
MapKey(&Throttle, MSP, PULSE+KP5);		 		//UI Select

Power management I've got on the stick's TMS. Left/Up/Down adds a pip to Systems/Weapons/Engines respectively. Holding those sends four quick key presses which will maximise each.

Code:

MapKey(&Joystick, H2U, TEMPO(UARROW, CHAIN(PULSE+UARROW, D(100), PULSE+UARROW, D(100), PULSE+UARROW, D(100), PULSE+UARROW), 250)); //Divert Power Engines
MapKey(&Joystick, H2R, TEMPO(RARROW, CHAIN(PULSE+RARROW, D(100), PULSE+RARROW, D(100), PULSE+UARROW, D(100), PULSE+RARROW), 250)); //Divert Power Weapons
MapKey(&Joystick, H2L, TEMPO(LARROW, CHAIN(PULSE+LARROW, D(100), PULSE+LARROW, D(100), PULSE+UARROW, D(100), PULSE+LARROW), 250)); //Divert Power Systems
MapKey(&Joystick, H2D, PULSE+DARROW); 	 					   						  //Power Balanced

ygritte · Sep 2, 2014

thanks for making and posting the script i just started yesterday and it helped me loads. not sure if i like where the thrusters are since can get kinda painful/annoying to keep that button in the right direction.

not really sure what else to bind it to though so for now i will keep it as is.
thanks again!

dtt255 · Sep 6, 2014

Ok I am confused a bit.

If I use the Target software....do I need to replace the custom.bind file also?

Net-burst · Sep 6, 2014

dtt255 said:
Ok I am confused a bit.

If I use the Target software....do I need to replace the custom.bind file also?

Only if you use TARGET profile from first page. If you make your own TARGET profile, then you will need to bind corresponding controls ingame, which, in turn, will also produce your own custom.bind file.