And I already explained - turn the flag ON if you want that. Not everyone wants the danger, and shouldn't be excluded from open play if they don't. The flag solves that for both scenarios.
It's the same as reporting crimes against you.
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
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And I already explained - turn the flag ON if you want that. Not everyone wants the danger, and shouldn't be excluded from open play if they don't. The flag solves that for both scenarios.
It's the same as reporting crimes against you.
A few years ago an explorer with his incompetent flight crushed my sister on the planet.
Now I have sworn revenge on all explorer ships. Removing them I making lives of defenseless people on planets safer.
and haha ship go boom.
You don't understand - the mere presence of the flag would change it for me, as it would tell me stuff about the other player that otherwise I wouldn't know.And I already explained - turn the flag ON if you want that. Not everyone wants the danger, and shouldn't be excluded from open play if they don't. The flag solves that for both scenarios.
It's the same as reporting crimes against you.
People are in no way excluded from open if they don't want danger. Plenty of people die to NPCs, it's not exclusive to open.
So why not just use that? It's already used in that way to some extent.
Also there are enough things that break suspension of disbelief in Elite, adding magic godmode ships would make it 1000000 times worse
Absolutely agree with this, that's why the current modes are good enough.
Side note though, it appears that a significant number of players (new) didn't even noticed there's a solo mode and run straight into open...
If I don't consciously fly to a CZ, or a nav beacon, I never encounter hostile NPCs. So obviously I don't do that when I'm flying in an explorer build.
However, I can be blown up by a player outside a station whilst docking.
As I said, it's just like the flag for reporting crimes against you. You can flip that on and off at will. Now, I'd be fine with a restriction on how often you can change the PvP flag (because it would be open to abuse), but that's not a reason not to have it.
yeah, Frontier do state what open mode is, but I think the engineering progression should be at least somewhat protected from gankers
And I already explained - turn the flag ON if you want that. Not everyone wants the danger, and shouldn't be excluded from open play if they don't. The flag solves that for both scenarios.
It's the same as reporting crimes against you.
Consider how much this kind of toggle will be abused in power-play situations... fortifiers being unstoppable, underminers being unkillable.
The proposal just looks worse than what the current solo/PG exploits allow.
I can't see how that's related at all.
Do I really need to explain just how broken the C&P system really is?
Which is completely unrelated to my initial argument, I suggest you read it again.
You need to understand it first.
Easy: decouple PP from BGS and decouple PP goodies from PP, then force PvP flag ON if pledged.
It would still be open to abuse, as it would be quite easy to approach another player in PVE mode then change to PVP mode, and the forums would be full of very salty threads about it.
No, I am already convinced, and you will find many of my posts to that effect.
Obviously it would have to be carefully implemented, and with significant restrictions on how often the flag can be changed, because as you point out it would be highly open to abuse if it were a free-for-all.
However, none of that is insurmountable, and shouldn't stop the inclusion of the flag IMO.
Unless (for example), you flip the flag and it takes 24 hours to take effect. Something like that.
Why it is a shame to choose to enjoy the game content peacefully? What's wrong with it to choose not to get harassed .
Even better: force OPEN PLAY only if pledged.Easy: decouple PP from BGS and decouple PP goodies from PP, then force PvP flag ON if pledged.