To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?

[Stealthie]

I'd say let's remove PvP entirely from the game because it leads to combat logging, which is extra work for support.

Well, it's a valid argument, just not a very good one.

I'm sure FDev easily have the resources to treat combat-logging with the seriousness it deserves.

Sifting through heaps of reports of things that do have quantifiable consequences, as a result of "PvP only" players operating in Open, would probably take considerably more effort and be a lot more subjective.

 

[PiLhEaD]

Hey, I've just had a genius idea, never heard of or suggested ever before....

Three modes: solo; PvE; PvP.

Do I get an award? Please let it be a day spent playing with Yaffle's ban-hammer...

 

[Robert Maynard]

Hey, I've just had a genius idea, never heard of or suggested ever before....

Three modes: solo; PvE; PvP.

Do I get an award? Please let it be a day spent playing with Yaffle's ban-hammer...

Which omits Private Groups - why should small groups of players be forced to play in a game mode with all other players if they don't want to?

 

[PiLhEaD]

Which omits Private Groups - why should small groups of players be forced to play in a game mode with all other players if they don't want to?

Erm... I was being a bit jokey..... which I hoped would be evident... as in this was probably the most oft proposed simple solution in Hotel California. ... but if it helps, yes please by all means keep the private groups. I'm in Mobius myself, so am unlikely to vote, as a turkey, for Christmas. ....

 

[Codger]

And the implication is that this is a common thought and want?

No such implication from me. It's just such a tired discussion, the same old same old, for years and years. It's been done to death. Give it up already.

 

[PiLhEaD]

No such implication from me. It's just such a tired discussion, the same old same old, for years and years. It's been done to death. Give it up already.

No, I didn't think your post constituted part of the feeling, and I'm actually not that bothered.

I was however observing that the fact that the topic keeps on coming round year after year creating such levels of debate suggests that some time spent acting on it might be worthwhile.

In fairness to FDev - they have enough on their plate right now. In the meantime, here's the Eagles with some calming music.

 

[Gleitfrosch]

Erm, that doesn't solve the issue.
Instead, it utterly undermines the reason for having a "PvE switch" at all.

People want some kind of "PvE switch" so they fly around in Open, interacting with the largest possible group of other players.
If setting "PvE on" put you in a different instance, you're no longer IN Open.

If that was how a "PvE switch" was to work, FDev might as well set up a formal PvE mode, which players could log into from the main menu.

Private groups do fly in open, there is no second galaxy created. Same for solo mode.

PG and solo just use their own instances in the game. And yes a pve mode in the login menu is something I could live with. Current PG have the problem that the players are scattered between different separate groups because of the player limit per group.

It's just a different approach and one of multiple solution options

 

[babelfisch]

Private groups do fly in open, there is no second galaxy created. Same for solo mode.

PG and solo just use their own instances in the game. And yes a pve mode in the login menu is something I could live with. Current PG have the problem that the players are scattered between different separate groups because of the player limit per group.

It's just a different approach and one of multiple solution options

I think an official PvE mode would be the worst option for PvP players...

 

[Gleitfrosch]

I think an official PvE mode would be the worst option for PvP players...

They could stay in pvp mode and enjoy good fights with other pvp players

I'm not saying pve mode should be the only one. More the option between
Pvp mode
Pve mode
Private group (as it is now)
Solo mode

 

[Robert Maynard]

I think an official PvE mode would be the worst option for PvP players...

Some of those who would object have a vested interest in there only being one Open mode with an unlimited population - and that mode is PvP enabled.

 

[babelfisch]

They could stay in pvp mode and enjoy good fights with other pvp players

I'm not saying pve mode should be the only one. More the option between
Pvp mode
Pve mode
Private group (as it is now)
Solo mode

Problem is that Open PvP probably would be very much deserted, leaving no people to explode.

 

[Brrokk]

I think an official PvE mode would be the worst option for PvP players...

It would. The whole thing reminds me of C.S.Lewis' account of his school days. When the older boys played cricket, the younger ones were forced to watch and prefects handed out punishments to anyone whose applause wasn't keen enough.

Oops, I did it again. An RL comparison.

 

[Gleitfrosch]

Problem is that Open PvP probably would be very much deserted, leaving no people to explode.

And the question is "why?"

Maybe because the pvp crowd is the minority but is occupying the biggest cluster ... open?
And wouldn't that show that most player want to play the game as pve?

 

[babelfisch]

And the question is "why?"

Maybe because the pvp crowd is the minority but is occupying the biggest cluster ... open?
And wouldn't that show that most player want to play the game as pve?

That's obvious and everyone knows it since the game launched.

 

[babelfisch]

The unavoidable poll: PvP vs PvE!

When reading "open vs group vs solo" threads, one often encounters claims about "majorities of players" favoring one playstyle - PvP or PvE - over the other, mostly unfunded. While I know a poll at the forum can't represent the opinion landscape of the whole player base, it still comes much...

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[Vogel_238]

And wouldn't that show that most player want to play the game as pve?

You can only speculate because most of the pvp players have left, been deleted or their voice has taken away, keeping an echo chamber forum.

 

[PiLhEaD]

Problem is that Open PvP probably would be very much deserted, leaving... only the people who are happy to explode and be exploded.

My take would be...

 

[PiLhEaD]

You can only speculate because most of the pvp players have left, been deleted or their voice has taken away, keeping an echo chamber forum.

You can also speculate that PvE is how most want to play the game. Hence why you hear the same suggestion time and again.

 

[Vogel_238]

You can also speculate that PvE is how most want to play the game. Hence why you hear the same suggestion time and again.

Before buying this game, anyone knows exactly what the modes are in and what you can expect from the game.
by paying for the game you agree to the Open/PG/Solo modes and what this represent.
trying to drastically change game modes is unfair to all players who bought it for one reason or another.

 

[Rebel Yell]

Disabling PvP with a toggle is not the solution.

Making some activities, or leaving some game mechanics, tied to specific game modes it is.