No it's not functionally identical, because If you block me in open, you have an effect on my instancing, If you click on PG you don't.
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
- Thread starter AMX-008 GaZowmn
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We also know that many open world games do have more or less effective PVP mitigation mechanisms, from PVE mode, to PVP flags, limited PVP areas and so on.
Robert Maynard
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Except for the fact that the block feature exists, contentious though it may be....
Works like intended. Probably keeps one from being blocked by more players.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
From the perspective of the player doing the blocking it is....
It sounds like there's a case to be made for a second Open mode - where block only affects comms - for those who insist that they don't want to play with players who can block instancing with them.
Blocking still does not make other players an optional extra, but we have already discussed that piece of misinformation as well.
Well it makes a good start.
That wasn't in dispute and still isn't particularly relevant.
No matter how good or bad instancing is without block, the presence of additional exclusionary factors, like blocks, will generally make it worse.
Personally, even though networking has always been sketchy and generally gotten worse as time has gone by, I rarely have issues encountering random CMDRs in fairly high density, even if I'm not winged with any of them, and there is significant potential for a block, against anyone around, to ruin things by fragmenting instancing.
Unless one blocks everyone they encounter, in which case they still have to reinstance after encountering a new CMDR, this isn't the case.
Tough luck. They are as much as permitted to play in open as you are. Deal with it. Blocking is a legitimate response to factors that ruin one's own gameplay.
That's what other people want, too. They just don't neccessarily align with your idea of playing the game.
Even preemptively I suppose
Yes, we could call it, I don't know, "Open" perhaps. Then we could rename the existing one "Open-PvE" and give it some rules on player interaction.
Basically, if the PvP community are really worried about the effect of block on their instancing, the rational strategy for them is to get behind the calls for an Open-PvE mode.
And that is where these threads always end up. Repeatedly. Returning to it after every possible cognitively-dissonant diversion. ("I want to solve this. There's one solution. But I don't like the solution. But I still want to solve it...")
Even preemptively. If you make yourself known for your behaviour it's your fault.Even preemptively I suppose
So pretty much we have this.
Gankers dont like to get blocked - for obvious reasons
PVE folks who would love to play Open more still see blocking as a pain and may as well stay in Solo
To answer the OP question im sure the overwhelming majority would play Open if we had a flagging system like other MMOs, that way you can leave a station flagged for PvP and go play with those folks and increase you adrenaline count.
PVEers can leave the station and wave at GankyMcGankface while he fumes in his tricked up Cutter watching your shieldless exploration ship gently sail into the black.
Seems like a plan that would suit all except those muppets that enjoy ruining everyone else's day.
Great get the petition started to Fdev and see if it can be done
O7
Gankers dont like to get blocked - for obvious reasons
PVE folks who would love to play Open more still see blocking as a pain and may as well stay in Solo
To answer the OP question im sure the overwhelming majority would play Open if we had a flagging system like other MMOs, that way you can leave a station flagged for PvP and go play with those folks and increase you adrenaline count.
PVEers can leave the station and wave at GankyMcGankface while he fumes in his tricked up Cutter watching your shieldless exploration ship gently sail into the black.
Seems like a plan that would suit all except those muppets that enjoy ruining everyone else's day.
Great get the petition started to Fdev and see if it can be done
O7
That wasn't the statement I replied to and even if it had been, it's still would not have been true.
Well say I have problem with mr. Ganky Ganker. I block mr. Ganker. Now I do not have any more problems with mr. Ganker. Mr. Gankers existence in my game was completely optional.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
It would depend on the player - they would be unlikely to even consider blocking every player they encounter - and as we change instance all the time, to share an instance once with a player one would not want to play with again isn't much of an issue.
I don't understand this instancing problem. When I get blocked by someone we don't instance together, ok. But what does beyond this happen? Are there any more effects for me as the blocked person?
What irritates certain people is that system treats them equally. Say blocker is instanced with players who have not blocked the blockee. Blocked person cannot instance at that point with those other persons. Likewise other way around, blocked person is allready instanced with others, blocker comes to play, does not get to same instance.
So in case 1. our Ganky Ganker misses all those potential juicy targets.