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To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
- Thread starter AMX-008 GaZowmn
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And another one who doesn't understand how instancing works.
Well that and the fact that certain BGS players don't understand the system and wind up damaging their own faction.
Very few were in open at Alcor.
Those that were were operating from carriers in system.
Even with a decent block list there were too many campers for open to really be viable.
hahaha.
We have different definitions of viable. I was in open exclusively, delivered about 30k tons. Got interdicted once, where they absolutely failed to even slightly dent my shields.
I have zero commanders on my block list.
Edit: That's always been my point. People see enemy players and just instantly give up / flee to solo when all the need to do is take some very basic steps to be 100% safe in open. The ability to switch stops people learning how to play the game. I accept that i cant change that attitude, but i think its stupid and my carrier will be squadron only from now on until such time as i can make it open only
(i do know that, given the number of other carriers, that wont have any effect, but its all i can do, and i dont see the point of wasting my time filling the carrier with goods to sell at a loss when the people benefitting arent even playing the same game as i am).
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That's the really sad part unfortunately.
You could build really cool pirate features into the game, so players could play notorious pirate XYZ and would be hunted everywhere.
Except for their Anarchy systems secret pirate bases. Maybe add some pirate tech you can only get when you are a criminal.
But the first thing that would happen: They'd try to find a loophole.
And that's the second thing that ruins it. I think no-one cares if he is professionally robbed by a well-played pirate player, unless said player haunts the same poor trader/miner the whole time.
But I do care to be destroyed with no cargo or warning by Trollolos. They don't deserve it, as they add nothing to my own experience, selfish louts.
So I only play PVP on RPG-PVP servers or when the game is so shallow that I really don't care what happens to my character. Or in EVE...
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Lots of stuff I agree with there, although the closing paragraph implies to me that there is little can be done that is actually feasible as far as you are concerned.
I believe the following would help, yes:
- immediate scan by cops (in SC) on entering any high sec system
- if you are wanted or notorious, chain interdictions in SC
- if you are clean, offer by NPCs to escort you to your station (which you can refuse)
- if you get attacked by a player at a station or base, immediate ATR style reply and offer of full refund (no rebuy) by local authorities if they fail to protect you
- a notorious player, if caught, would have to pay compensation to all players killed, and would risk financial bankrupcy (a number of gankers have actually promoted this)
- piracy in these systems could still be possible if the trader stray off the shipping lanes, where the local cops would take longer to arrive, and opportunities for a big heist would exist for those that dare.
This would of course gradually scale down as you get to anarchy.
In addition, I would add clearer more 'in your face' warnings when jumping to a populated anarchy, and I would add a filter to the galmap to filter out system which have recent reports of attacks.
In anarchies controlled by pirates (via power play for example) I would expect any trader to be treated mercilessly by the NPCs, such that even a wing of players would not expect to escape without loss if they don't comply. In these systems there would be random attacks by killers as well.
I don't think so, many would relish the challenge of a robust C&P system, and many of the current gankers (by no means all youngsters) despise it.
Sadly, only a minority actually stop and read the chat, most just expect the worst.
I interdicted a player some time ago that replied "don't blow me up, I've had a really bad day, and just want to relax": i was so glad he replied we just had a chat.
To be honest, the chat interface is to blame here. The number of times ive had it just delete what ive typed before i can hit enter because someone else made a comment in the chat is absurd.. Also the number of times when ive had system chat selected and just not noticed that stuff happened in local chat.
So if i was flying a ship that was at all possible to destroy, i dont think i would want to stop and type, since it would enormously increase the chances of getting killed, compared to flying the ship.
It's a pitty. I always watch the chat and be happy if it's a pirate. I got a lot of my customers for my RP Logistic company due to relations with pirates. But it's a not very often encounter this days.
Since ODY I have hardly bothered, it's so difficult to find anyone.
I'd love to see a language agnostic graphical dialog system with just basic negotiation functions that could also be used to negotiate with NPCs.
That unfortunately makes you the exception, not the rule.
I haven't seen a large number of cmdrs in open at a CG since about June.
They aren't in Mobius either. That's even more dead.
Instancing issues within Open are rarely an absolute prohibition. Most people will be able to connect with most others at least some of the time.
When it comes to other modes, it's intended to be, and almost always is, an absolute prohibition.
I did this early on in my CMDR's career. If anyone else had been around, they could have saved my CMDR from himself by shooting him down a few times.
I thought you said there were too many commanders ganking in Alcor for open to be viable, which is it?
I actually did see a fair few commanders in Alcor myself, maybe the issue is your block list?
I have also blown people up just because they were rude, or aligned to a different power, and many pirates will stop to chat if they have time and even compensate for loss of cargo if the player is a beginner (it's often not possible)That unfortunately makes you the exception, not the rule.
I did the Alcor CG in a shieldless T9, and got pirated just once, attempted ganks about 3 or 4, and then saw no other gankers as they were all blocked by whoever of the traders I found myself instanced with.
Yeah, i was using my 6A Prismatic Cutter - one person pulled me, i laughed and left with like 97% shields. No one tried again.
Robert Maynard
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If one needed to take those steps because Solo and Private Groups did not exist then some players would not have considered buying or backing the game in the first place - as there are those with zero inclination to engage / be engaged in a PvP interaction or change their gameplay to accommodate those who want to attack them.
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