Classical pirate do kill non compliant prey, but of course this should only occur after the relevant warnings etc
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
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Yes, but the loot is the objective, cargo, ship, ransom. And it's done at risk for life - noone risks their life without reason.
Sry, not following you.
You mean the trader risks their life I presume? Traders frequently refuse to hand over cargo in PvP piracy, and ignore the relevant warnings.
No, the pirates risked their lifes. There were always weapons around on sailships and beyond the cannon ports you could never really tell what awaited. Naturally a believable display of determination would do the trick but not for 100% success. And I'm talking about the the hgistorical and contemp pirates not the game ones, because I don't think there ever was any code to signal "killing" or "looting" by pirates other than letting fly the pirate flag.
ok, with you now
Yeah, the pirates flag was probably a clear sign, and yeah, a pirates life in those days was probably a short one - if not killed by cannons or the sword, then disease or alcohol.
I'm sure a certain amount of bluff was required too ..
Those numbers makes a lot of sense.
They basically show that less than 10% of the active players of the last 30 days showed any sort of interest towards pvp (as in: they put themselves in a pvp situation)
Statistics make no indication of the "interest" at all, so no.
I am interested in PvP but do plenty of other stuff as well, like most PvP minded cmdrs.
"Interest" in PvP can also be simply the awareness that a random dangerous meeting could occur, even if it didn't.
So open mode not destruction festival at all))
You missed the part in the parenthesis (they put themselves in a pvp situation)
And you can hardly call yourself a pvp player if you failed to get into a pvp situation during a 30 days interval
For example, i'm not interested in Elite ship pvp at all (at least not until now), although that might change in the future
But i did engaged more than once in on-foot PVP in several combat CG that happened in the last 3-4 months and i did had some vague CQC attempts.
I havent 'put myself in a pvp situation' in the last 30 days.
It doesnt mean im not interested, and it CERTAINLY doesnt mean i think i should be magically protected from it.
I didn't miss it, I just don't agree with it - I put myself in a PvP situation just by going into open mode.
In this game it's not possible to just do PvP. Most of the people I fly with are engaged in BGS conflicts in open mode where, according to the opposition and the state of the conflict, actual PvP combat may occur, but is frequently not required or just doesn't happen due to time zone differences. So none of us would be 'PvP players' in your eyes?
Welcome to the PvP community ;-)
Because prey is also a wittness, and at worst case may cause navy to send patrol after you fast. Piracy after all was punishable by hanging in most jurisdictions...
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... which meant that pirates were "playing in Ironman mode" - unlike in this game where CMDRs are immortal. It would be a quite different game if each CMDR only had a single "life".
And what does it mean?
That you didnt actually played Elite in the last 30 days?
That you didnt actually made efforts to evade any pvp interactions in the last 30 days? As in playing in solo or in pg or in a remote system(s), so basically you actually played with no chance to be exposed to pvp
No, it means exactly what i said - in the last 30 days you were part of the more than 90% of players that showed no interest in pvp during that interval of time
I never said that those 90% will never ever engage in pvp or they should be in any way protected - not like they need it since they seem to be perfectly capable to play the game without putting themselves in a pvp situation so they dont need any protection whatsoever
Playing in open somewhere in one of the almost 400 billion systems that are not near Colonia or the Bubble does not mean that you are exposing to pvp
It only means playing in open (open =/= pvp)
This topic is not about open, is about pvp - and if an open-pve mode would be introduced (or a form of pvp flagging) there are solid chances this mode would be enjoyed by 90% of the active population
It means that i have played Elite almost every day for the last 30 days, but have not engaged in any player vs player combat in that time (i have not looked for any, and none has come looking for me). I have been doing a few combat zones, and i would absolutely welcome another player on the opposing side, because these NPCs are scrubs at FPS gameplay. (i really think there should be a couple more difficulty levels in CZs, Very high intensity, super extremely high intensity - like UT used to have godlike difficulty)
I have been in open 100% of my playtime. In the bubble, though not in the hotspot systems other than to nip to ShinDez a couple times to buy some new ships.
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The phrase "open mode play" is in the thread title.
I do agree that open=/=pvp strictly speaking, but many of those that fly in open want the potential pvp the it entails. I don't think that pvp flagging is in the spirit of the game and neither do fdev:
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
And I have no interest in mouse&keyboard meta controll scheme in PVP.... lets add a new mode: OPEN Hotas Only!
Yeah it makes me laugh when people claim that murder wasnt part of 'real life' piracy. If your ship got taken by pirates, chances are your options were slavery or death. Leaving free witnesses would have been remarkably foolish.
Depended also on if one was privateer, meaning state sponsored pirate, or just independent actor. Meaning just pirate. First ones may let their victims go free. Or not. Depending on situation.
Yeah thats true, but when people say pirate, they think skull and crossbones, Captain blackbeard style thing, and they were not cuddly folk.