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I want to emphasize that these are likely statically placed POI's. As per https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=221303 :


  • Shouldn't have to drive away from the crashed ship sites and Barnacles to be able to recall your ship.

This is not how a random POI behaves. This is how static (permanent) unmarked locations behave. I.e the crashed ship on Charon that was hinted at in the Sol Galnet.

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Sorry, no. When we were hunting for the crashed ship on Charon, we had plenty of (shared) CTD's between the people there. It's just Horizons bugs. Not related to barnacles. Please don't read every bug and crash as a gateway to secrets.
Well u would think with hundreds and thousands of playes and nearly a week of working barnaicles-meta alloys there would be something ( in any game a feature thats meant to be even rare as meta alloys are meant to be at the moemtn should have yielded something) which then sherlock would say the obvious solution is the one thats right in front of us, something is still bugged

And we know from experience that Fdevs programming talent to get things working as intended, and to quality approaval process to make sure theres no buggy code, is not very good at all.

Im gunna call a bug , or a loot table / POI placement table something server database side query is out and Micheal brookes has just been stringing us along itll the find it would lvoe to be proven wrong for once
 
Are you following any sort of method for covering Maia B1BA?
I'm heading there now to park my ship, and will continue another day
I've been focusing on the planet's equator. It's almost universally light there - odd since at the poles it's almost pitch black. Not sure why. It's easier to see the ground when you can -- see the ground. So I've been doing flyovers, looking for anything big enough to be visible from the sky. Basically I start at 0,0 and go west.

Should a new thread be started for the meta alloys / barnacles, given this thread is/was for the unknown artifact? So many posts are made it's hard to keep up.
An attempt was made to set up a subforum to make things easier to sort, but despite the poll getting nearly unianimous votes in favor, FD said they weren't going to be opening any new subforums for the time being.

I'm at Maia B1BA, hovering over 0,0. No such mining complex that I can see.
Here is what I saw:
 
I want to emphasize that these are likely statically placed POI's. As per https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=221303 :


  • Shouldn't have to drive away from the crashed ship sites and Barnacles to be able to recall your ship.

This is not how a random POI behaves. This is how static (permanent) unmarked locations behave. I.e the crashed ship on Charon that was hinted at in the Sol Galnet.

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Sorry, no. When we were hunting for the crashed ship on Charon, we had plenty of (shared) CTD's between the people there. It's just Horizons bugs. Not related to barnacles. Please don't read every bug and crash as a gateway to secrets.
I agree that large barnacles are most likely statically placed (either by hand or procedurally) given that patch note, however smaller barnacles being random encounters probably shouldn't be ruled out just yet.

I agree the CTD's are most likely a red herring, but there's always the possibility they relate to a certain type of PoI (of which there are really quite a lot...could be a quite mundane PoI causing a crash, and it's not a given that every CTD is caused by the one problem). FD will be working on it regardless as they'll have a bunch of crash reports so they'll fix it eventually.
 
or someone with a LOT of time will get together and try and search each moon grid by grid.. but even that would take years. They'd have to get lucky on that front as well.
I presume like most things in the game that its just a roll of the dice. I doubt they are in fixed locations. But either way, fixed or random, since they are apparently rare, its going to be a matter of luck.
 
I've been focusing on the planet's equator. It's almost universally light there - odd since at the poles it's almost pitch black. Not sure why. It's easier to see the ground when you can -- see the ground. So I've been doing flyovers, looking for anything big enough to be visible from the sky. Basically I start at 0,0 and go west.
If you want max visibility, max out your gamma setting in graphics. It can make dark places quite bright.
 
I presume like most things in the game that its just a roll of the dice. I doubt they are in fixed locations. But either way, fixed or random, since they are apparently rare, its going to be a matter of luck.
I just hope the database query tables on both fixed - random POIs are working as intended. Because if not if its a server side issue no ones gunna be finding them. Hopeful we get another hint within the next week, i get the feeling that Fdev want us to find them so they can go galnet and move the story forward. But because we havent found them then its getting stuck - its a good thing, but what happens when u attempt to play manual duengon master to much, some automation / script background simulation improvements and tiying it in with galactic mysteries would be a better way forward
 
Well I searched Atlas all last night, with all the green trenches on all of the landable planets I thought I would get lucky, but nope.

28 Beacons
35 Gold Sites
23 Tea Sites
6 Crashed Ships
5 Old satellites

Anyone else keeping track?
 
Well I searched Atlas all last night, with all the green trenches on all of the landable planets I thought I would get lucky, but nope.

28 Beacons
35 Gold Sites
23 Tea Sites
6 Crashed Ships
5 Old satellites

Anyone else keeping track?
Do you fly from PoI to PoI or drive?
 
I had about 40 sites in atalas today about 12 were crashed ships, referenced to the anaconda and type 9 comment a few pages back, but none of them yielded meta alloys or barnaciles

I also had abotu 10 other systems i searched (been at it for 14 hours) and nothing, even for an exceedingly rare thing, i would expect meta alloys to spawn unless its a 1 in a milion thing, and then really if that is the case its fdev trolling us :p or at least making us grind so much it drives us a bit loony
 
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I had about 40 sites in atalas today about 12 were crashed ships, referenced to the anaconda and type 9 comment a few pages back, but none of them yielded meta alloys or barnaciles

I also had abotu 10 other systems i searched (been at it for 14 hours) and nothing, even for an exceedingly rare thing, i would expect meta alloys to spawn unless its a 1 in a milion thing, and then really if that is the case its fdev trolling us :p or at least making us grind so much it drives us a bit loony
Do you fly or drive between PoIs? Also were the crashed T9's and Anacondas static PoIs or random?
 
Should a new thread be started for the meta alloys / barnacles, given this thread is/was for the unknown artifact? So many posts are made it's hard to keep up.
Possibly - although we'll be on Thread 5 soon - giving us a chance to refocus the front page, and the Barnacles most definitely should be pulled into the UA 'thing' I think - the UA shell>Merope->Pleiades>Barnacle correlation is a little too obvious to be coincidence in my book.

I also back Rizal to take 2nd post (as mods usually take the first). I'll be happy to take the third post for other updates if need be, although there's probably no need!
 
No more hints needed - just hard science.

Keep at it, keep scouring, keep flying/driving/investigating however people see fit. 24 hours is not an unreasonable amount of time to find a rare site. 1 week isn't unreasonable, even 2.

What's needed is more people - Nicholas Powell's Biscuit Barrels proved, that with a concentrated effort by lots of CMDRs, the low chances of random spawns can be mitigated.

Keep plugging CMDRs - somebody will get lucky soon!
 
Well u would think with hundreds and thousands of playes and nearly a week of working barnaicles-meta alloys there would be something ( in any game a feature thats meant to be even rare as meta alloys are meant to be at the moemtn should have yielded something) which then sherlock would say the obvious solution is the one thats right in front of us, something is still bugged
I would most certainly not expect anything from so few people working in random and chaotic manners. Do you realize how much area there is to cover? It's like saying you're surprised that we haven't fully explored the milky way yet, with so many people.

As I stated earlier, a single 750 km planet (which is quite small as planets goes) is over 7 million square kilometers of area. The fastest ships fly at maybe 1400-1500 km/hr. It'll take you over 3 hours to fly around the same planet at an average 400m/s

That's the thing about space. It's huge. Planets are mindbogglingly large. We don't even know which planet(s) to look at. Sure someone might get randomly lucky, but it's incredibly unlikely. Unless we can see it from orbital cruise, any systematic search, even by 100+ players, is going to be tediously slow. Also you need to fly pretty low to see anything. Most objects are small when you're 1 km away.

I've found a crashed static POI ship on Charon (with a group of 5-6 of us searching). We knew the Lat and Long and planet. It took time.

I've failed to find another static POI crashed ship by myself, also knowing the Lat/Long/Planet. I search for hours within the area specified in the "missing ship" galnet message.

TLDR: Planets are big. Systematic searches are not likely to be effective, and random luck (unless they are really or extremely obvious from a large distance) is statistically unlikely.

Also, UA's originally were rare but could be found by mass people because they randomly appeared. Exceedingly rare, but still random. Specific location a planet in a 100 ly bubble (even if Merope seems most likely) is a whole other ballgame. Doesn't help that the POI system in general is very annoying and filled to the brim with tea.
 
No, only issue was Landing on one of the planets and then my Conda popped inside the planet.

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Two ways to solve this:
1. Start season 1 Elite and log in. The game should ask you or tell you, that you are now back in Orbit.

2. As you can fly inside the planets, approach the surface/roof very carefully. I once was able to get out with careful upwards thrusting. Do it too fast and sour ship might explode. Method 1 might be preferred in a high-rebuy ship...
 
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