UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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That is true, but you are a bit smarter than the rest of us :D

And you didn't expect a shell did you?

No, not a shell specifically. I thought it might be a blob of systems in that area between the Pleiades and the bubble. It was the three or four reports that didn't fit that theory that really made me look at it though.

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From Elite timeline: 2280s - Discovery of first non-human relic in space. Origin still unknown in 3300.

Too big of a leap for me to conclude that the timeline entry is referring to the UAs without some more evidence. There are quite a number of references to alien relics/artefacts found on planets in the FFE journals. But I guess that's not surprising as there is a lot of alien life out there, just (apparently) not many that has achieved space travel.
 
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Neat, thanks.

I agree with you, it's unlikely to be a server glitch. Same might be said about a code bug. But it's frustrating not to know. To post "it's intended" for instance wouldn't spoil anything, 'cause we still wouldn't know WHY. It'd just be comforting to know we're on the right track.

Anyway, let's enjoy the ride...

I think so too... until we know what it is and what it is meant to do, we can't assume it's broken, and especially that it's broken "outside it's reality"
 
In defence of thread 2, it was a dumbass idea based on conflation of various Google searches. Quite right to slap it down then.
Even now it's rather dumbass, it seems arbitrary, pointless, and imho not defendable.
Why not hauler?
Why not a weaponless, shieldless asp? Is the ua really capable of determine possible ship effectiveness based on unfitted modules.

It may prove to be more logical in the future, but atm I am rather disappointed in the lack of internal consistency

What if the UA thinks T-type ships are its mother? Hear me out here. A T-9 grabs a UA. While in the hold the UA gives "birth" to little baby UAs. The extra corrosion has them drop out of the hold. The first thing they see with their little UA "eyes" is a T-9 and they think "mama". So now they're looking for their mama. The other T-type ships are close enough that they recognize them as family.
 
I do see the length of the logical leap required, but this was the entry i was looking for : "2280s - Discovery of first non-human relic in space. Origin still unknown in 3300.

Much thanks to Han Zen.

e: Am I wrong in thinking that out of all the items in ED the UA is at the moment the only one with an unknown origin?

e2: to answer myself, yes I am wrong.
 
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What if the UA thinks T-type ships are its mother? Hear me out here. A T-9 grabs a UA. While in the hold the UA gives "birth" to little baby UAs. The extra corrosion has them drop out of the hold. The first thing they see with their little UA "eyes" is a T-9 and they think "mama". So now they're looking for their mama. The other T-type ships are close enough that they recognize them as family.

AhaHAhAhAhAhAHHAhAhAH! I love it!

"He gotta respecta the family! We'll make'm an offer he can't refuse..." - The UnkownAr-T-father
 
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Too big of a leap for me to conclude that the timeline entry is referring to the UAs without some more evidence. There are quite a number of references to alien relics/artefacts found on planets in the FFE journals. But I guess that's not surprising as there is a lot of alien life out there, just (apparently) not many that has achieved space travel.

I agree. That is why I posted the text. The UA doesn't quite fit in the relic box I think
 
I do see the length of the logical leap required, but this was the entry i was looking for : "2280s - Discovery of first non-human relic in space. Origin still unknown in 3300.

Much thanks to Han Zen.

e: Am I wrong in thinking that out of all the items in ED the UA is at the moment the only one with an unknown origin?

That's a bit unclear.

Search the journals for: 'ALIEN ARTEFACT FOUND IN DEEP SPACE' and 'ALIEN CIVILISATION FOUND ON HOEDA'.

Difficult to know what to make of these articles. Not all of them were actually displayed in-game in FFE. They could be part of story lines that were never realized.
 
I may be oversimplifying things but I do believe that...

An Artefact/Artifact: is some sort of archeologically and/or technologically significant device

while

A Relic: is some sort of archeologically and/or historically significant biological remain.

If the UA is being called an artifact it is not a relic rather a device of some sort which may be of organic nature (think like Thargoids), however a device nevertheless but also to me it's too new and shiny (and easily replicated now) to be a relic. I hope this helps clear up some Artifact vs Relic confusion.
 
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Way, OT, but while in the book store yesterday I saw something that made me laugh.

I present to you, the official Canonn uniform:
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Hear this:

After the hundred tests and experiments I did with the UA around Thompson Dock, I got a few fines, so....
I've become unfriendly with The Canonn :D

That's how you thank me guys?!?!?! :D :D :D

I'm out. ;)
 
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Way, OT, but while in the book store yesterday I saw something that made me laugh.

I present to you, the official Canonn uniform:

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Feet are exposed... REJECT

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Hear this:

After the hundred tests and experiments I did with the UA around Thompson Dock, I got a few fines, so....
I've become unfriendly with The Canonn :D

That's how you thank me guys?!?!?! :D :D :D

I'm out. ;)


Slip the deck officer a $20 and all will be good.
 
I may be oversimplifying things but I do believe that...

An Artefact/Artifact: is some sort of archeologically and/or technologically significant device

while

A Relic: is some sort of archeologically and/or historically significant biological remain.

I disagree, somewhat. An artifact is an object, device or other non-naturally occuring phenomenon but a relic does not need to be biological. It is often is an item with religious significance; pieces of the cross are relics just the same as finger bones of saints. If you want a dictionary definition...

Artifact:
1. any object made by human beings, especially with a view to subsequent use.
2. a handmade object, as a tool, or the remains of one, as a shard of pottery, characteristic of an earlier time or cultural stage, especially such an object found at an archaeological excavation.
3. any mass-produced, usually inexpensive object reflecting contemporary society or popular culture:
artifacts of the pop rock generation.
4. a substance or structure not naturally present in the matter being observed but formed by artificial means, as during preparation of a microscope slide.
5. a spurious observation or result arising from preparatory or investigative procedures.
6. any feature that is not naturally present but is a product of an extrinsic agent, method or the like

Relic:
1. a surviving memorial of something past.
2. an object having interest by reason of its age or its association with the past: a museum of historic relics.
3. a surviving trace of something: a custom that is a relic of paganism.
4. relics.
remaining parts or fragments.
the remains of a deceased person.
5. something kept in remembrance; souvenir; memento.
6. Ecclesiastical. (especially in the Roman Catholic and Greek churches) the body, a part of the body, or some personal memorial of a saint, martyr, or other sacred person, preserved as worthy of veneration.
 
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Afternoon all.
Been slowly going through the pictures pulling things apart seeing what i can see and was just about to post my findings and i realized that we are a ship short.
We have no recordings of a UA and a Fedral Gunship ( i take it it is available ).
So any chance someone with means and the time to get this for the cause a big thank you in advance.
EDIT 2 there is also the Imperial Eagle as well.
EDIT 3 also the Federal Assault Ship
 
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Afternoon all.
Been slowly going through the pictures pulling things apart seeing what i can see and was just about to post my findings and i realized that we are a ship short.
We have no recordings of a UA and a Fedral Gunship ( i take it it is available ).
So any chance someone with means and the time to get this for the cause a big thank you in advance.
EDIT 2 there is also the Imperial Eagle as well.

What I can say is that they should trigger the drawings of the respective original ships, so Dropship and Eagle: if I remember well I did just the Assault Ship and that came out.
But if someone does a recording I'll be able to confirm that for sure. Free floater is better, as always.
 
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Afternoon all.
Been slowly going through the pictures pulling things apart seeing what i can see and was just about to post my findings and i realized that we are a ship short.
We have no recordings of a UA and a Fedral Gunship ( i take it it is available ).
So any chance someone with means and the time to get this for the cause a big thank you in advance.
EDIT 2 there is also the Imperial Eagle as well.
EDIT 3 also the Federal Assault Ship

I have an iEagle but it has poor jump range and a very small fuel tank (2 jumps!), not something I'd want to fly out to Merope area looking for a UA. I could meet someone with a UA near Varati for testing over the weekend.
 
What I can say is that they should produce the drawings of the respective original ships, so Dropship and Eagle: if I remember well I did just the Assault Ship and that came out.
But if someone does a recording I'll be able to confirm that for sure. Free floater is better, as always.

Well that is what i am expecting, but i think we need to be sure. Pictures are taking a while but i am try as best as i can to be methodical about it and not miss anything.
 
I have an iEagle but it has poor jump range and a very small fuel tank (2 jumps!), not something I'd want to fly out to Merope area looking for a UA. I could meet someone with a UA near Varati for testing over the weekend.

It's easier than you think, now that we know that an UA can be jettisoned near a Station, you can swap ship, go outside and scoop it back ;)

I usually go around with my DBX and its 30Ly range to grab a fresh UA, then carrying it where is needed, than doing the jettison'n'swap trick.
When is needed I buy a ship just for the test then I sell it back again, with the 10% loss.
Did it with the T7 in Varati: 1.7M cr was the cost of the experiment!
A small price to pay for science!
 
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I have an iEagle but it has poor jump range and a very small fuel tank (2 jumps!), not something I'd want to fly out to Merope area looking for a UA. I could meet someone with a UA near Varati for testing over the weekend.

Im sure we can work something out, i am parked in Merope so the shell i on the way back to civilization.
It's easier than you think, now that we know that an UA can be jettisoned near a Station, than you can swap ship, go outside and scoop it back ;)

I usually go around with my DBX and its 30Ly range to grab a fresh UA, then carrying it where is needed, than doing the jettison'n'swap trick.
When is needed I buy a ship just for the test then I sell it back again, with the 10% loss.
Did it with the T7 in Varati: 1.7M cr was the cost of the experiment!
A small price to pay for science!
More biscuits for that man though you would need a huge hold for 1.7m worth, i have considered sacrificing some credits like that but apart from the Cannon i think my rank is scum with everyone else.
 
Too big of a leap for me to conclude that the timeline entry is referring to the UAs without some more evidence. There are quite a number of references to alien relics/artefacts found on planets in the FFE journals. But I guess that's not surprising as there is a lot of alien life out there, just (apparently) not many that has achieved space travel.

Allen Stroud, keeper of Elite lore and consistency for FD, confirmed it some time ago in a podcast. See link on wiki if it has not been edited out of existence.
 
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