It's quite clear that they are talking about the relic from the time line, but they keep calling it the 'unknown artefact'.
It's odd to say the least. I don't know what to make of it.
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It's quite clear that they are talking about the relic from the time line, but they keep calling it the 'unknown artefact'.
It's odd to say the least. I don't know what to make of it.
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Well, I did notice a mission I couldn't take (elite rank) asking to kill some dark wheel ship in system to get some SAP-8. I haven't tried orbiting the plage moon with it and record the UA. I've got one in the hold, I' m going to sell it at Peregrina and look at the BB.
Dark Wheel is linked to Raxala the mystery planet (it is not thargoid to my understanding of the story). Raxala could be in Merope
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Well, I did notice a mission I couldn't take (elite rank) asking to kill some dark wheel ship in system to get some SAP-8. I haven't tried orbiting the plage moon with it and record the UA. I've got one in the hold, I' m going to sell it at Peregrina and look at the BB.
Dark Wheel is linked to Raxala the mystery planet (it is not thargoid to my understanding of the story). Raxala could be in Merope
Thats a standard Elite mission. SAP 8s have been played with (I still have 12) to no effect.
So I ran into one finally after losing an Asp to a Vulture pack. It was in the name of science, so no worries.
Anyway I tried various things with the UA I encountered, including sending morse code back (I'm a licensed amateur radio operator.) I haven't processed the video yet but it's over 2 hours. I sent morse via the head lights, and also via the cargo scoop. I need to go back and see if there was a different response. It was hard to hear with the clicking noises from the lights/scoop/betty.
I tried the following...
Hello
Asp
Merope
CQ CQ
Tried out my mining lasers on it (dang that thing is small!) and dropping it's health to various percentages and then finally directly selecting Merope as a destination, picking it up, and trying to engage my FSD. Didn't work, so it's currently in my cargo hold doing nasty things to my fuel scoop.
One thing I noticed is the pattern of the pulsing effect and that it had a slight drift, yet didn't move so much as a single meter. My range to it was 42m and didn't waver once, though it was definitely moving. The pulsing always happened at the exact same location during it's rotation on both pulse phases. It occurred to me that it might be possible to use that to screen out stars within and near the nebula and find a candidate that doesn't fall within the pulse zone(s). Basically that instantly weeds most of them out. Combined with the 4 compass points, above and below, it might actually single out a specific star other than Merope.
Think of it like a compass rose with small gaps, then overlay them from different angles to find the pockets that aren't covered within the sphere. The hard part I guess would be finding locations at each point at the same distance. I haven't gotten the chance to go over the video yet to see how much of a gap there is, but it's an idea that popped into my head.
I also got a really good look at it. It really makes me think of some kind of bio-weapon.
Anyway I tried various things with the UA I encountered, including sending morse code back (I'm a licensed amateur radio operator.) I haven't processed the video yet but it's over 2 hours. I sent morse via the head lights, and also via the cargo scoop. I need to go back and see if there was a different response. It was hard to hear with the clicking noises from the lights/scoop/betty.
I tried the following...
Hello
Asp
Merope
CQ CQ
Tried out my mining lasers on it (dang that thing is small!) and dropping it's health to various percentages and then finally directly selecting Merope as a destination, picking it up, and trying to engage my FSD. Didn't work, so it's currently in my cargo hold doing nasty things to my fuel scoop.
One thing I noticed is the pattern of the pulsing effect and that it had a slight drift, yet didn't move so much as a single meter. My range to it was 42m and didn't waver once, though it was definitely moving. The pulsing always happened at the exact same location during it's rotation on both pulse phases. It occurred to me that it might be possible to use that to screen out stars within and near the nebula and find a candidate that doesn't fall within the pulse zone(s). Basically that instantly weeds most of them out. Combined with the 4 compass points, above and below, it might actually single out a specific star other than Merope.
Think of it like a compass rose with small gaps, then overlay them from different angles to find the pockets that aren't covered within the sphere. The hard part I guess would be finding locations at each point at the same distance. I haven't gotten the chance to go over the video yet to see how much of a gap there is, but it's an idea that popped into my head.
I also got a really good look at it. It really makes me think of some kind of bio-weapon.
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That's interesting.
Bold and CAPS help me a lot to focus my thoughts while I'm writing thousands of other useless words
I remember very well that remark: it was not FD's. It was a friend of a poster that had something to do with FD in some way, who told him, via iPhone message, that the UA is Thargoid, that we had to listen carefully, but that not everyone would have beeen able to understand... I think he was talking about the MORSE.
Trying to have a look at the Audacity recording soon...
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No, they didn't, at least not in the part you pointed out. They called it "alien artefact" and "the artefact", but they never called it "unknown artefact". Even if they did, "unknown artefact" is a pretty good description of any non-natural object of unknown origin (especially if you don't want to get them confused with the "alien artefacts" of the previous games). The use of those words does not mean they are talking about the objects called "Unknown Artefact" in the game now. Note that the only piece of canon material we have access to uses the term "relic" rather than "artefact". Note that the conversation was more than two years before the UAs were added to the game, and while Alan developed the ED lore for that relic he himself made the point that he didn't know what FD was going to do with that material. Note the lack of any Galnet story mentioning the 2280 relic; I'd have expected one by now if they wanted to make that connection.
It is possible the 2280 relic was a UA or is related somehow, but right now there isn't really any evidence to support that theory. IMO.
I went into the exclusion zone but didn't suicide as that's almost certainly a nope but I did do that during the beta of 1.4
Alien artefact it is. You are right.
As I have said before, I doubt it is the same object. It would be strange not to recognice an object that has been around for 1000 years.
The relic is not a secret. It is from the time line listed in the Gazetteer. The Gazetteer is a guide book that used to be standard on all Faulcon De Lace ships.
What we have are to objects of totally unknown origin.
The unknown origin (both have been chemicaly analyzed i guess) reduces the chance of any of them being human, Achenarian or Thargoid.
The fact that the relic was discovered just before the first ever teraforming (Mars) was complete also triggers my speculations.
We know the Thargoids didn't like our teraforming of ammonia worlds. Is someone else feeling the same way about airless worlds?
Pure speculation and not helpful for UA research, but it's still interesting.
He invoked The Razor!
And I agree
In a way, my suggestion there was intended to add to the ideas we'd already had about 'how it learned morse' - because I think it's ultimately more likely than it being human in origin, now.
Which also, I think, offers more support to the idea that the morse is an active attempt at communication rather than us 'snooping' on any communication back to some malevolent mother ship.
That also suggests, therefore, that 'they' are possibly pointing towards Merope to indicate we should keep our eyes on it. Scour pretty much showed that there isn't much there right now, but perhaps not forever
A few mental leaps here, I know. But it makes sense in my head!
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Hm, the way I remember it I was reading a comment from Michael Brookes.
If memory serves me right, he stated "Anyone can solve it - but not many people will get it."
At least that's quite exactly the wording how I remember it.
I interpreted that statement at that time, such as that the Solution is available to anyone trying to reach it, but the logical connection or steps needed to get there would only be understood [as logical/conclusive] by very few.
Pondering that thought back then, my best guess was that the 'connections between the dots' to solve the Puzzle/Riddle would most likely be buried deep in ELITE lore.
= stuff that just not every ELITE : Dangerous Player is in full knowledge about.
Technically, it could also use and/or require elements of officially sanctioned ELITE books.
Personally to me, that would be a very probable and plausible reasoning behind such a statement as well.
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Didn't find it after a Forum search.
But I did find Michael Brookes referencing a Novel (by T James) in a topic related to the nature of Soontill Relics :
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=22&p=2165913#post2165913
(that basically tells me that my thoughts might not be far off, if they used a Novel as the background to build an Artefact before)
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Can you provide me with a simpler file? Mp3, Mp4, M4v, whatever. I have not much time to fiddle with audacity. Sorry.
Hello again.
I just wanted to share this in case it is of use to anyone.
I made the page mostly for myself, being late to the mystery and Elite in general I wanted to consolidate all the information I could find so as to get my head around it all.
http://workshopofthings.com/elite/ua_mystery.php
Cheers!
I just wanted to share this in case it is of use to anyone.
I made the page mostly for myself, being late to the mystery and Elite in general I wanted to consolidate all the information I could find so as to get my head around it all.
http://workshopofthings.com/elite/ua_mystery.php
Cheers!
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Why are you so opposed to this theory? It uses inference and deduction (which you prefer to call conjecture) but has more to it, IMO, then anything Braben supposedly ever said linking UAs to Thargoids, for which there is no evidence at all.
Why should they have a Galnet story for it? The clues were in the original FFE timeline and the altered/updated ED timeline, and the podcast. Far as I can tell there are no clues linking UAs to Thargoids, at all.
Oh, and I assume there were nav beacons and morse in 2280 as well.
Occam's razor would seem to imply there is only one alien unknown artifact/relic of this type based on the evidence we have to date, and that the podcast and timeline are talking about the UA. IMO.
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Hi guys, I was just wondering. Probably been asked/done already but on the off chance it hasn't.
has anyone worked out what the wireframe code of the UA itself is and transmitted it back to it?
It strikes me that the UA has been identifying objects and transmitting them out as if to say, I see this, I recognise this, has anyone sent an "I see you" back to it!
sorry again if this is a repeat, I did try searching the forums with keywords to see if it had been mentioned but couldn't find anything.
has anyone worked out what the wireframe code of the UA itself is and transmitted it back to it?
It strikes me that the UA has been identifying objects and transmitting them out as if to say, I see this, I recognise this, has anyone sent an "I see you" back to it!
sorry again if this is a repeat, I did try searching the forums with keywords to see if it had been mentioned but couldn't find anything.
Unless I am doing something wrong (quite possible) you can only get a certain short distance away from your ship in debug mode, and it is less than 1km, so no way to test this I think.
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