UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Popov Le Magnifique said:
One thing in the backstory that actually exists in ED? Does a quote from an article in FFE count?

Sorry if that was not what you meant. (The Antares Incident is driving me crazy.)
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Ok, name TWO things that exist in ED ! ;)

Thats closer than I thought you would get, but it is still only galnet. I stand by the abandonment of virtually all the previous Elite's events, there may be a small number, but certainly not enough to use any of it as "evidence" to back a theory.
 

Imrus76

Imrus76
Did you see these before? Scientific Samples can be interesting.

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Jmanis

Jmanis
Isinor - I have the permit, and have checked it in the past. However, there is no indication that it is relevant so I dont do so regularly. The "bug" status of Isinor is very vague. While it is working as intended that the Permit isnt available, I am not convinced that this is by specific design, or just a consequence of the BGS, or that it was originally a "bug" that it was available.
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=176824&p=2722663&viewfull=1#post2722663

"Hi there, the Isinor permit is a special case, where it has been made unobtainable by design"

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=176824&p=2801829&viewfull=1#post2801829

"This system permit was made unavailable intentionally until further notice, I apologize for any inconveniences caused"

That sounds pretty unequivocal to me.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Dommarraa said:
Ok, name TWO things that exist in ED ! ;)

Thats closer than I thought you would get, but it is still only galnet. I stand by the abandonment of virtually all the previous Elite's events, there may be a small number, but certainly not enough to use any of it as "evidence" to back a theory.
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The hole Empire/Lavigny story is a continuation of events in FFE.
Death penalty for traffic offences was suggested in FFE :p

Other than that, FD have been fairly accurate in naming stations the same as they were named in FE2/FFE.

There were not a hole lot going on in Elite and FE2. The stories were in the books. In FFE there were a lot of stories in the papers, but it was quite disconnected from the game play.

I think FD had a lot of plans for the story line in FFE, that were never realized. Some of those story elements are returning now. We are obviously being deliberately kept in the dark when it comes to the Thargoid story and the banning of AI.
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
I still would like to know how they plan on explaining away the lack of Androids in ED. It was pretty much common sight in the Federation to have Androids who where almost indistinguishable from Humans. I would think being synthetic beings they would also fall under Ai and thus be banned (shades of blade runner here). They were practically everywhere in FFE... especially those ridiculous RIG personal ads.
 

CMDR John Casey

CMDR John Casey
Hi guys, I'm posting this here, since it seems it can be related.

While investigating a bizarre theory about why the UAs have 12 pods, I met a SSS with one of these medical transports convoy. Coincidence? The fact is that it's the first I ever met and it was in an uninhabited system (Diadem).

So, do we have an idea of where these transports are popping up and how frequently?

By now my impression is that the medical convoys are just a plot element, but who knows...
 
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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
CMDR John Casey said:
Hi guys, I'm posting this here, since it seems it can be related.

While investigating a bizarre theory about why the UAs have 12 pods, I met a SSS with one of these medical transports convoy. Coincidence? The fact is that it's the first I ever met and it was in an uninhabited system (Diadem).

So, do we have an idea of where these transports are popping up and how frequently?

By now my impression is that the medical convoys are just a plot element, but who knows...
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I see them all the time, but then my time is mainly spent on UA activities out on the edges of the bubble. Scientific Research onboard the Convoys is of special interest to me, so if you get one, please do shout. I want to probe it.
 

Special Circumstances

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Thought this might amuse....

Decoding the glyph inside to out gives (me) - - .-. .-. - ... ... ... .-. .-. . .-. - -, which I make to be TTRRTSSSRRERTT

Reading that the other way (outside to in) gives TTRERRSSSTRRTT

Try googling that!

;)


Sponsored by Hazelnut Boasters
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
Special Circumstances said:
Thought this might amuse....

Decoding the glyph inside to out gives (me) - - .-. .-. - ... ... ... .-. .-. . .-. - -, which I make to be TTRRTSSSRRERTT

Reading that the other way (outside to in) gives TTRERRSSSTRRTT

Try googling that!

;)


Sponsored by Hazelnut Boasters
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My cat once typed something ridiculous in to Google once. It came up with a site called VeronicaLovesYou.com...

Now, seeing my wife's name is...
 

Special Circumstances

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anthonycsheehy said:
My cat once typed something ridiculous in to Google once. It came up with a site called VeronicaLovesYou.com...

Now, seeing my wife's name is...
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True, but the designers of the UA did just that, whereas I bet your cat doesn't actually realise that Google exists...

Do cats believe in the Internet? Do you have to believe in something to rule it?
 

King Sancho

King Sancho
RedWizzard said:
Pretty solid reasoning. I agree that from an in game point of view we don't have any real reason to think they're Thargoid in origin except that according to that Radio Lave episode MB said there are only two known sentient races: Thargoids and the extinct indigenous race from Achenar, which would imply the UA would almost have to be Thargoid assuming they're not of human origin (and Prof Palin does like to call them "extraterrestrial"). But in DB's Q&A he stated there were other races out there so that reasoning isn't so strong these days. From a meta point of view we've got those comments by DB and MB, and the fact that Thargoids will be in the game at some point as they've both mentioned several times. IMO it would be a slightly odd decision for FD to focus on some other race first when so many people are waiting for Thargoids. Those factors tip the balance for me in favour of the UA being Thargoid related, if not Thargoid created.

The 2280 relic could indeed be Thargoid. The main argument against is the same as the argument against the UA being Thargoid, i.e. we know a lot about Thargoids yet the relic hasn't been recognised as theirs. I think that argument is weaker for the relic though, because we don't necessarily know a lot about Thargoid tech from 1000 years ago (see also the suggestion that the Soontil Relics are ancient or offshoot Thargoid tech). But knowing there are more races around makes it less likely that the relic is Thargoid as the more races there are the more different sorts of space junk you'd expect to see; think how humans have littered space with space stations, nav beacons, probes, ships both whole and wrecked, abandoned cargo, etc. And I'd expect that FD will want to foreshadow the fact that there are more races in the game and/or lore.

So my million credits are on the UAs having something to do with the Thargoids and the 2280 relic being something else entirely.
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I agree with your assumptions as well, that the UA is Thargoid related. Though I would not be surprised if the Devs took a storyline akin to Halo, where there is a 3rd unknown race similar to the Flood.

I am not sure if you directly quoted MB, if so, then the use of the word KNOWN races is key, and the implication that the UA is Thargoid falls flat.

MB said there are only two known sentient races: Thargoids and the extinct indigenous race from Achenar, which would imply the UA would almost have to be Thargoid assuming they're not of human origin
 
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King Sancho

King Sancho
Popov Le Magnifique said:
We have no influence whatsoever on the unfolding of this mystery, we are just observers. Whenever we find something interesting, it's not acknowledged by FD[SIZE=1] (Player-submitted galnet articles which don't make the story unfold faster)[/SIZE] ; so yeah, have a break and come back when they decide to push the story forward (probably when Horizons hits. We might get a bone thrown at us with 1.5 though.)

Anyway, I'll stick to the INRA convoy, 'cause too much attention gets put on the freefloaters. Has anybody REALLY investigated on the disappearance of the UA convoys? We're saying they've disappeared but maybe they haven't, our focus has just shifted. Not that we have to scour the bubble to find them again, but my point is that the cargo found with the UA is still interesting. Medical Convoys have "homogenous" cargo, pointing towards weird super-soldier experiments (hey, just a member's theory, not given as fact.) UA Convoys may also have this kinda homogenous cargo, with Reactive Armour and Weapons, leading to the idea that the UA was created as a weapon using alien technology.

It'd be nice for it to have been created by the INRA as a biological weapon only to become sentient and get recognized (further down the line of course) as a serious threat to both humanity and the Thargoids. Man I like this idea. Not gonna happen though.
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It may be worthwhile to catalog the cargo contents in the Med Convoys. See if a pattern emerges
 

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King Sancho said:
I agree with your assumptions as well, that the UA is Thargoid related. Though I would not be surprised if the Devs took a storyline akin to Halo, where there is a 3rd unknown race similar to the Flood.

I am not sure if you directly quoted MB, if so, then the use of the word KNOWN races is key, and the implication that the UA is Thargoid falls flat.

MB said there are only two known sentient races: Thargoids and the extinct indigenous race from Achenar, which would imply the UA would almost have to be Thargoid assuming they're not of human origin
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Where/when did MB say that? (not a challenge, just I'm interested)
 

ajwm

ajwm
So I discovered a Free Floater and thought, what the heck I will take it to Merope and let it expire. Dropped it within the ring system of the furthest planet from the star and video'd it.

https://youtu.be/MaeDJV4FyS4

downloading now....not sure if the behaviour changed or noises or whatever just thought I would post in case anyone checks it out and discovers something.
 
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