UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn
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More like "Enhanced Radar/sonar" on both the SRV and the ship for good measure.
we got detaleid surface scaners and advanced discovery radars... why the hell can we get a life form scanner?
Note that canyons, which is where I think we should search, can be on the sun rise/set side of a planet and be completely dark as well (and may be darker as they aren't lit by the general light from background space, e.g. nebula). It also does not have to have mist to be dark. Been searching canyons only for the past few days.
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Any idea if silicate magma means mist?
No idea yet. I haven't come across any mist on Maia A 7, which is my personal best bet for the moment, but I'll let you know if I do. There are certainly locations where it could do. I just haven't been to those yet.
But we have one. Exploration scanners give feedback about the life on a planet.
The questions is: Are the Barnacles alive enough to be detected as life?
I tried today releasing in the gravity well of the planet, see if it turns to merope so close to a planet. Figured it might be a compass after all, to the magic X spot.
Above Merope 3C i lost it, ejected from cargo but it didn't even hit the space just vanished.
If you're in the mood.
I took them to all merope planets but it was telling me nothing special just the usual body name
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Conclusions from Gaseous Fog Research
Evening, CMDRs!
I've spent the last few days studying the conditions under which airless planets will develop the mist/fog that we'll sometimes see, and I believe I have a pretty good understanding of when and how it happens.
To summarize: Planets with significant rock content, when heated by sunlight, give off gas, which collects in craters, but can also form a thin layer over the surface in general. In the absence of solar heating, this gas disspates into space fairly quickly. You will find this gas on the day side of a given planet, but the night side will have usually cooled enough that the fog is gone.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS MEANS YOU WILL GENERALLY NOT FIND FOG ON THE DARK SIDE OF A PLANET TIDALLY LOCKED TO ITS STAR. If you're searching the dark sides of tidally locked planets because of the trailer footage alone, I'd suggest finding a new line of inquiry.
The Details:
I began my investigation in Merope. Here's a screenshot (which I already posted here before my results were conclusive) taken from above the day/night line on Merope 2D:
If you look at the horizon at the edge of the planet, on the right you can see a significant layer of beige-colored fog; on the left, as it darkens, this fog thins out and eventually disappears.
The main breakthrough, though, came entirely by accident, when I visited Shriver Landing (or whatever it's called) in the Ovid system:
That's both pitch black, AND super foggy. So what's going on here? Luckily, that moon is tidally locked to the Earth-like planet that it orbits, and its' orbital period is only 4.8 hours.
I decided to wait a while, and see how long the fog stuck around:
After thinking it over for a while, I've worked out what I think the day/night fog cycle is, on both this and other airless worlds.
DAY/NIGHT/FOG CYCLE
I. Sunrise. No/minimal fog present. Solar heating gradually causes fog to form during the "morning" of whatever part of the body you're on.
II. Eclipse (if a moon). This particular moon passes into its parent planet's shadow at the end of its "morning" period. This was when my "foggy" screenshot was taken - the beginning of the daily "eclipse" period. The Eclipse period starts out dark and foggy, but the fog dissipates a bit from the lack of sun.
III. Re-emergence. The sun comes back out from the other side of the parent body. Fog is present but diminished; heating begins again.
IV. Sunset. The angle of light gets low enough that the fog often dissipates well in advance of the "sunset line" (see my Merope 2D horizon shot above). After sunset, no fog is present.
Obviously, if a planet is not a moon, the Eclipse/Re-emergence phases won't occur.
In Conclusion:
You won't find fog on a tidally-locked night side of a planet. I suggest finding something new to search for.
These foggy areas are definitely where I'd expect to find a strange life form on a dead airless moon, but I don't have a clear enough picture here to help narrow down the search much (yet).
Happy Sciencing CMDRs!
Edit: Realized the horizon shot was actually Merope 5C, and not 2D. Whoops!
Evening, CMDRs!
I've spent the last few days studying the conditions under which airless planets will develop the mist/fog that we'll sometimes see, and I believe I have a pretty good understanding of when and how it happens.
To summarize: Planets with significant rock content, when heated by sunlight, give off gas, which collects in craters, but can also form a thin layer over the surface in general. In the absence of solar heating, this gas disspates into space fairly quickly. You will find this gas on the day side of a given planet, but the night side will have usually cooled enough that the fog is gone.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS MEANS YOU WILL GENERALLY NOT FIND FOG ON THE DARK SIDE OF A PLANET TIDALLY LOCKED TO ITS STAR. If you're searching the dark sides of tidally locked planets because of the trailer footage alone, I'd suggest finding a new line of inquiry.
The Details:
I began my investigation in Merope. Here's a screenshot (which I already posted here before my results were conclusive) taken from above the day/night line on Merope 2D:
If you look at the horizon at the edge of the planet, on the right you can see a significant layer of beige-colored fog; on the left, as it darkens, this fog thins out and eventually disappears.
The main breakthrough, though, came entirely by accident, when I visited Shriver Landing (or whatever it's called) in the Ovid system:
That's both pitch black, AND super foggy. So what's going on here? Luckily, that moon is tidally locked to the Earth-like planet that it orbits, and its' orbital period is only 4.8 hours.
I decided to wait a while, and see how long the fog stuck around:
After thinking it over for a while, I've worked out what I think the day/night fog cycle is, on both this and other airless worlds.
DAY/NIGHT/FOG CYCLE
I. Sunrise. No/minimal fog present. Solar heating gradually causes fog to form during the "morning" of whatever part of the body you're on.
II. Eclipse (if a moon). This particular moon passes into its parent planet's shadow at the end of its "morning" period. This was when my "foggy" screenshot was taken - the beginning of the daily "eclipse" period. The Eclipse period starts out dark and foggy, but the fog dissipates a bit from the lack of sun.
III. Re-emergence. The sun comes back out from the other side of the parent body. Fog is present but diminished; heating begins again.
IV. Sunset. The angle of light gets low enough that the fog often dissipates well in advance of the "sunset line" (see my Merope 2D horizon shot above). After sunset, no fog is present.
Obviously, if a planet is not a moon, the Eclipse/Re-emergence phases won't occur.
In Conclusion:
You won't find fog on a tidally-locked night side of a planet. I suggest finding something new to search for.
These foggy areas are definitely where I'd expect to find a strange life form on a dead airless moon, but I don't have a clear enough picture here to help narrow down the search much (yet).
Happy Sciencing CMDRs!
Edit: Realized the horizon shot was actually Merope 5C, and not 2D. Whoops!
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Can also confirm that Ariel (Moon of Uranus, not Neptune, I was wrong earlier) is thickly laden with mist but has NO Volcanism, according to the in-game stats so that isn't a factor either.
Yeah that trailer was dark and the only place we get dark is canyons or craters. Of course the trailer could have been from a build where night side wasn't so well illuminated. Still craters/canyons get my vote as most likely.
I'll be looking around Maia A7 for a couple of days. I had a look around where I've landed for the night (-8,4455 by -96.3830) and in about 10 minutes found some Tungsten (rare) and Antimony (very rare) lying around.
Doesn't look that misty here but I'll be moving around to other areas on the planet.
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Tomorrow morning: Michael reads this thread. Ask Development again. They take a look into the spawn table of the Barnacles Poi.
*uhh we have it game, but we forgot to active them..*
*uhh we have it game, but we forgot to active them..*
It doesn't mean that's the only place they are though. I'd have a hard time believing that the UA's pointing there is for nothing.
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