1. We're not idiots, if you can't post without insult - rather don't because it's not constructive.
2. I don't feel bad. I'm entitled to express my opinion and you have no right to try to make me feel bad for that opinion. You are not the bees-knees, your opinion is not the only one in existence.
3. No, it's not tough tickle. You don't get what you want just because you want it; you aren't a spoiled 5-year-old brat any more; there are other players to consider and attempting to belittle them because they don't share your opinion is incredibly childish.
4. It really doesn't matter what you care or don't care about; again, our opinion is just as valid as yours. Don't like it? Tough tickle. Get over it.
1 - 4 These your conclusions to what you read and based on your emotional reaction. I never pointed at you or anyone else, and if that was my intention i would have done so. If you feel like you're being belittled, then congrats. You are certainly being belittled now, since you've made yourself the target. You said yourself you're entitled to express your opinon and this is it. I'm not going to argue with you because its your opinion. However, there are other players to consider, especially newcomers.
Then use the forum. Because quite frankly, if FD wanted global chat in the game, they'd have added it already - there's a reason they don't want it.
So instead of supporting their own game mode, you think they're going to completely ignore community features that are required in order for the mechanics of PP to function. This is similar to saying if FD wanted planetary landings in game, they'd have added it already.
What the hell is noobspace?
I consider it a 20ly bubble around LHS3447, although some might consider it larger or smaller. This is where you spawn as a new pilot with a sidewinder. This is where all the new players are, and because of this, is where people struggle the most. It is "noobspace" because new players cannot get far from it until they start making money and equip better gear, or buy a better ship.
Teamspeak is somewhat different from a global chat window with people spamming how leet they are. Many also don't think a global chat is reminiscent of the original Elite series which many people here played 20-30 odd years ago; they have an idea of what Elite is and that image genuinely runs in line with what David Braben sees (from what I've seen anyway).
For myself, I don't see ED as an MMO (even if that's what FD identify the game as). I see it as a solo experience with multiplayer elements; not the other way around. But that's neither here nor there and has no point.
Teamspeak is not different, if the argument is immersion breaking chat. You can't explain away as to why it functions in space (some people require it to be explained with science!) You alt tab out, start another program and now you can chat with people regardless of where and what you're doing. How is that less immersion breaking then having a system in place that can be explained (SCIENCE!), and helps the community as a whole communicate. Believe it or not people don't know what teamspeak is, dont have it, and have no desire to get it. Does that mean they don't have questions to other players, or would like to find friends to play with? I throw out a hardy NOOOO!
Now i feel like you've forgiven me for calling you a mean name, although I wasn't talking to anyone, and voicing my opinion.
People think MMO's mean 1 genre. You can have an MMO fps, MMO rpg, MMO simulator, MMO puzzle game. MMO is not a genre, its more of a sub genre. IE a driving sim can be an MMO, but a Space sim cannot be a point and click adventure game. The community at large (imo) believes that MMO will label them as the likes of WOW, or any other MMOrpg. This is not the case. It is factually labeling what the space simulator adventure exploration game you're playing, is. Ask their server and backend developers if they think this is a MMO or not.
Says the guy who thinks he can just run rough-shod over everyone's opinion like his is the only one worth listening to.
Oh tickle... i thought you forgave me in the last paragraph. I'm not doing anything more or less than anyone here. My opinion was stated and you took it for how you read it, and decided i was attacking you. Maybe because you have differing opinions, but i never called you out, especially personally or specifically. We've done this before, albeit flipped. I'll admit to being harsh with my wording, although my personal opinion about people and their "feelings" these days is everyone is wimpy little baby. Oh no a bully, oh no someone said a mean word... better call him a little kid, or childish, or whiney, or or or... LOL.
Except the majority of people against it likely don't see ED as an MMO. Also, in my experience, global chats are more often than not, a bad thing. If not moderated, players go nuts with insults, racist jokes, immaturity etc - from what I've seen since BETA, the majority of the ED community is not like that and wouldn't appreciate it on their game. Which brings me back to moderation, are you going to pay for the moderators? Or must FD just pull them from their bums?
Do you pay for the moderators of this forum? Think about it, if you bought the game, and FDEV pays the moderators here, then yes. My perfect example would be IRC. You can create your own chat channels, moderate them yourselves, and if there IS a global, station, or system wide chat - then that could be moderated with a language filter. Insults racist jokes and immaturity? Heh, welcome to the internet bud. Those aren't the people this system would cater to, and because they exsist, you deprive other players from communication all together? That doesn't make sense to me, we all know chats can be stupid and spammy, but its a necessary evil, the benefits outweigh the cost.
If a player runs off because there is no global chat, I say good-riddance. That's an incredibly stupid way judge whether a games worth playing or not.
You've misinterpreted what I'm getting at here. I have personally helped new players in noobspace for 2 weeks now, and had I not helped them - more than one of them have admitted they were about to give up. This game has a difficult learning curve, it gives you nothing to push you into a direction to learn things on your own as you need to know what to do in order to know what to do. People don't know how to use the chat system. The tabs in the chat panel, how to make friends, how to use voice comms, how to join wings. This has been my experience in noobspace. I stop in at populated stations of new players (clearly) and offer them assistance in the forms of free gold, winging up to help them RES, or escorting them on a trade routes. Very few players take advantage of this, and I think its the chat system's fault. I've reached out to people that ignored me and learned they didn't even see my offer, and if they did they had no idea how to respond to it.
There is interaction - but some new tools could help; although a global chat is not one of them; xondk suggested an in-game bulletin board which players could chat on (
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=178817) in the form of notifications. That is, imho, much more acceptable than some crummy chat window.
This would be a step in the right direction. I had previously made this suggestion when I bought the game and found player interaction to be completely missing. My suggestion would be to have an IRC style chat, inside of starport services. There can be a general chat for pilots who are using the station, and a seperate chat for PP players. This seperates the 2 major game mechanics into 2 chats, dependant on your location. We know you can only instance up to 32 people, so the chats will only have a maximum of 32 people in it at any given time.
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