Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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For instance just a few days ago I posted that I've solved the puzzle, visited the alien homeworld and now have a pet Thargoid called Ronald, and not one person has quoted it. Except Ronald, of course. ;)

And this is how we got the first picture of a live thargoid ...

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Hey everyone. I just thought I should let you guys know that I'll be leaving ED until further notice. This is by far where I've had the most fun out of my time playing ED. I'll probably drop by every once in a while to see what progress we've made. I wish everyone the best of luck.

Here is the thread I made on my subreddit /r/EliteMahon if anyone wants more information.


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Zbkle Wg, Gsxutrhpzl :)

You will be a miss Murp.......you could rightly have been called a "Canonn Extremist" :D

Take care and do indeed pop back........you'll be back ;)
 
From the Wiki.

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact

Ejected and observed / listened to next to other items and places Edit
Hafnium = Nothing
AI relic = Nothing
Soontill Relic = Nothing
Ancient Artefact = Nothing
Painite = Nothing
NAV beacon (250 meters) = Nothing
In-place of a destroyed NAV beacon = Nothing
Leonard Nimoy station = Nothing
Earth = Nothing
Black Hole = Nothing
Sol = Nothing
HE BO = Nothing
Peregrina = Nothing
Polaris = Nothing
Toxic waste = Nothing
Sap 8 Core Containers = Nothing
Alien Artefacts = Nothing
Close to Ammonia Planets = Nothing
Dropped near various stars = Nothing
Another Unknown Artefact = Nothing [47]
Azaleach = Nothing
Quiness (planet Quy mentioned in F:FE) = Nothing
Ross 154 (planet Merlin mentioned in F:FE) = Nothing
BD-02 4304 (in GalNet & mentioned by Kerrash) = Nothing
Soontill (system, not the relic) = Nothing, chitter present w/ no nav beacon [48]
Guinna = Nothing
Canopus = Nothing
Exphiay = Nothing
HIP 53688 = Nothing
Furuhjelm I-695 (gas giant w/ ammonia-life) = Nothing

The following is a list of items I am currently holding for testing.

Ancient Artwork
Rare Artwork
Military Plans
AI Relics
Technical Blueprints
Tea
Algae
Superconductors
Microbial Furnaces
Leather
Water Purifiers
Atmospheric Processors
Chemical Waste
Bertrandite
Personal Weapons
Power Generators
Computer Components
Marine Equipment
trinkets of Hidden Fortune
Sap 8 Core Containers
 
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This (and the previous thread) is indeed a fantastic read and endeavour. Sometimes however I can just picture the devs all gathered around a monitor...

Dev 1 "What are they up to now?"

Dev 2 "They are counting the number of pits on the head of the UA, and the number of dimples per pit and looking for mathematical relationships within those numbers..."

I'm thinking whoever designed this puzzle is wearing his hand and face out from all the facepalming they are doing.

Commonly heard outburst in FD office: "IT IS SO OBVIOUS GUYS!!!"
 
I have absolutely no idea if it is relevant, but when a UA is viewed outside the ship, it is always slowly spinning around its axis. All other containers seem to hang still. Just an observation, and it might not be relevant in any way, but I noticed it while watching videos where the UA is tested with other cargo.
 
OK, another thought from the lore. Remember those symbols on the UA that I said might look like two snakes facing each other, with a sun with two planets or a planet with two moons rising between them (or the head of the dog with two eyes someone mentioned)? Yeah, that one. You know the one. I'm too lazy to go back and find an image in the thread. But anyways, I digress. What if it is actually something like this:

What is this, you ask? Well, the head of an Oresrian of course: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oresrians

Drew said that stuff was not canon. http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/
What we don’t know:

Precisely what they look like. (Alas, the descriptions on the Elite Wiki and Alioth.net are fan produced). T. James official book “Out of the Darkness” gives the following however: Low calibre weapons do no damage to Thargoids, even at point blank range. They have six ‘legs’ and two ‘arms’ and are strong enough to dismember a human with only their claws.
 
Let Them Die!

Would you kindly stop this already? Letting the UAs expire is not constructive and, if we are to look at it from that point of view, would be extremely bad game design. You have made your point, pretty much everybody said "not gonna happen", and you have failed to give persuasive arguments as to why your pet hypothesis should be "the one", so - give it a rest, will you?

This thread is busy enough without your constant refusal to engage in helpful conversation.

Edit: I see you have finally conceeded, thanks.
 
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Yeah sry what I meant was it sounds and seems to act like a scanner and I wondered if all ship types had been tried for the outfitting test not just one.


02 May: Senator Kahina Tijani Loren’s Imperial Courier undergoes significant refit

This is the ship i thought would need to be tested
 
Would you kindly stop this already? Letting the UAs expire is not constructive and, if we are to look at it from that point of view, would be extremely bad game design. You have made your point, pretty much everybody said "not gonna happen", and you have failed to give persuasive arguments as to why your pet hypothesis should be "the one", so - give it a rest, will you?

This thread is busy enough without your constant refusal to engage in helpful conversation.

Edit: I see you have finally conceeded, thanks.

Judging by the removal of a few posts, including a rebuke from me at around 01:10BST, I'm not sure we'll be seeing Daygobah on this thread again. Thanks, mods :)

That said - who knows what constructive contribution he could've made, had he been a little less 'forceful' about his views...

Anyway, on with the show!

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02 May: Senator Kahina Tijani Loren’s Imperial Courier undergoes significant refit

This is the ship i thought would need to be tested

Yeah this was connected to Drew Wagar, author of one of the books ('Reclamation') and confirmed as not being part of the official back story around the UA by him on the previous thread. Shame, really...
 
Thanks - ya there is definitely some artistic license - and yes i would be much happier if there were four columns .. I tried the other one just now but got another random date ... what you said makes sense for the 8/4 katun - will see what that generates :)


Wow, that is very interesting and good work. :eek:

But there is one thing to note: it could be that we need to read that thing top->down(i'm not sure what direction the date is read now). Look at the glyphs with the little faces at the side of your picture. The numbers are not aligned vertical but horizontal. There are two ways to write this numbers i've read about. If you want to write one big number you read it from down to top. But you can also align them horizontally and that would mean you have to read it from top->down or left->right(where right is the central axis of the UA) in our case. Thats why i've always written down both ways.

Could it be that the date makes more sense in the opposite direction?

EDIT: No, seems to be not the case. Even more random dates that don't have anything to do with 2015, 2016 or 3301.
 
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I will end the evening with a warning:
Do not do binary decoding of Purrs without checking what others have done before.
Pleas don't waste your time.

Sage advice.

I made this mistake when I joined in. Even thought I discovered new things such as the 2-run-length-limit, but later found that and more was already done 2 months ago by CMDR jlouis on reddit (and I'm sure others). Still, it was fun following the trail!

One thing of note that I think contributed in the end (unless I was too late here too..) was pointing out the purr change in Ratking15's vids, which was interesting but hasn't exactly lead anywhere :) Rest of it was just going over old ground it seems.

We've tried analysing the purrs for baudot, morse, 7 and 8 bit ascii, alphanumeric, weighted character analysis, both normal and inverted, and assuming msb and lsb.

We've rot-13'd, Vigniere'd and ciphered it all to death and got absolutely nowhere.

I was really sure the purrs were "it" way back when, but now - given all my recent reasoning about the sheer complexity of what we're suggesting, I'm striking it off my personal list and have accepted that it's either location-based (triggering something) or condition based (correct things with/around it).

On those lines do you happen to have links to results of those tests?

We need all these findings as a summary in a central place, along with links to the post that outlines the result. Perhaps the wiki?

I know Kulin has been gathering observed properties so far in one of his old posts but we could also use a wiki page or something like this for a summary of analysis.
 
Judging by the removal of a few posts, including a rebuke from me at around 01:10BST, I'm not sure we'll be seeing Daygobah on this thread again. Thanks, mods :)

That said - who knows what constructive contribution he could've made, had he been a little less 'forceful' about his views...

Anyway, on with the show!

But not with the wiki.............or someone as it keeps getting edits in favour of his opnion....so he may be back at the night again....
 
Wow, that is very interesting and good work. :eek:

But there is one thing to note: it could be that we need to read that thing top->down(i'm not sure what direction the date is read now). Look at the glyphs with the little faces at the side of your picture. The numbers are not aligned vertical but horizontal. There are two ways to write this numbers i've read about. If you want to write one big number you read it from down to top. But you can also align them horizontally and that would mean you have to read it from top->down or left->right(where right is the central axis of the UA) in our case. Thats why i've always written down both ways.

Could it be that the date makes more sense in the opposite direction?

EDIT: No, seems to be not the case. Even more random dates that don't have anything to do with 2015, 2016 or 3301.

Mayan Calendar

Their number system was in base 20 (as opposed to our base 10) and they used 3 calendars in conjunction with one another. These 3 calendars were known as Haab, Tzolkin and Long Count.

Haab is very similar to our calendar as it is a measure of months in a year.
A year consisted of 18 months with 20 days each, and an extra 5 days following the last day of the last month, giving a total of 365 days.

Tzolkin is a measure of weeks in a year. There are 20 weeks with each week having either 13 or 20 days adding up again to a total of 365 days.

Long count is a measure of days since the beginning of the Mayan era.

As the mayan number system was in base 20, the long count is based off that (with the exception of one count which is base 18)."
A long count date is represented as such: baktun.katun.tun.uinal.kin
uinal = 20 kin = 20 days
tun = 18 uinal = 360 days = approx. 1 year
katun = 20 tun = 7,200 days = approx. 20 years
baktun = 20 katun = 144,000 days = approx. 394 years

baktun's are numbered from 1 to 13, uinals from 0 to 17 and the other units from 0 to 19.

The beginning of the era in the Mayan calendar is 13.0.0.0.0 which corresponds to August 11, 3114 BC.
The last day of the era in the Mayan Calendar is 12.19.19.17.19 which corresponds to December 20, 2012 AD.

So therefore, the following day is when the calendar goes back to 13.0.0.0.0, marking the end of an era.

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Just dropping in with a idea.

We have struggled in the past to find a number conversion rate for the sounds.

If the symbols on the side are in fact Mayan symbols then maybe that has been placed there as a visual clue saying use the Mayan number system to decipher the sounds.

We know the clicking is the nearest gravity body / system in a modified morse code, but maybe the Mayan hint would help make sense out of the rest of the numbers / sounds without getting into the statistical analysis too much as I believe that the solution will be a simple one once we get there.
 
thats one reason why i thought about a solution that is not code based^^
i wonder what the result will be

OK, I admit I've not read and followed all the theories......

But looking at this post made me think - what if when the UA's expire, they point the direction as to where to go in terms of direction?

Having see video of one of them expire yesterday, there seems to be a spout in the explosion which is unusual - could it be pointing in the direction of where to go in terms of the universe? Just thinking as to whether these UA's are probes or something - sending information back upon explosion.

No laughing please - I genuinely haven't ready all the posts on this topic (bit difficult to really)!
 
Hi all. I have only just started reading about this mystery so forgive me for not being up to speed. I was just wondering, has anybody followed Halsey's route with an UA in the hold?
 
Well I finally went back and watched the wings 1.2 trailer to see what was in it as far as the UA was concerned and I would have to say taking one to the Leonard Nimoy space station and selling it is a test that really has to be done as far as in your face clues are concerned.
I understand they're rare but what if it is the key to maybe a mission or information or whatever.
I'm doing my best these days to find one and selling it there will be the first and last thing I do with it.
 
Well I finally went back and watched the wings 1.2 trailer to see what was in it as far as the UA was concerned and I would have to say taking one to the Leonard Nimoy space station and selling it is a test that really has to be done as far as in your face clues are concerned.
I understand they're rare but what if it is the key to maybe a mission or information or whatever.
I'm doing my best these days to find one and selling it there will be the first and last thing I do with it.
I just watched it for the first time. I'd say it does look like a bit of a hint ...

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Aah, thanks. I see that the Halsey route has been done.
 
Wow, that is very interesting and good work. :eek:

But there is one thing to note: it could be that we need to read that thing top->down(i'm not sure what direction the date is read now). Look at the glyphs with the little faces at the side of your picture. The numbers are not aligned vertical but horizontal. There are two ways to write this numbers i've read about. If you want to write one big number you read it from down to top. But you can also align them horizontally and that would mean you have to read it from top->down or left->right(where right is the central axis of the UA) in our case. Thats why i've always written down both ways.

Could it be that the date makes more sense in the opposite direction?

EDIT: No, seems to be not the case. Even more random dates that don't have anything to do with 2015, 2016 or 3301.

Ya I went with the attached portion of the"pod" as down. Also the intro-glyph seemed to match better with that alignment. Since it seems to be giving us dates - I was hoping they would correspond to known supernovae ... or something along those lines ... havent made any connections yet.
 
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