Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Ben Ryder]

From what we know, no.
Obviously it's contemplated, but as we have just two of them right now, we're waiting to examine them.
After a chosen time, one of them will be sold at Leonard Nimoy (himself).

Yes, I see. Every now and then I go looking for one but it seems that they are very very hard to get hold of.

But basically my plan is to just take it to a scientific out post and to voyager.

I might hold off for a while as there is some concern that the UA's are related to the disease that is spreading.

Do you think the two could be connected?

 

[Grumbleweed]

Yes, I see. Every now and then I go looking for one but it seems that they are very very hard to get hold of.

But basically my plan is to just take it to a scientific out post and to voyager.

I might hold off for a while as there is some concern that the UA's are related to the disease that is spreading.

Do you think the two could be connected?

I refer the right honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some time ago.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2567341&viewfull=1#post2567341

It's been speculated, along with just about everything else, but no actual tangible evidence. They are officially 'exceedingly rare'.

 

[Derthek]

Last I checked, voyager is missing.

Also, I'm fairly certain that was tested by... digitalscream, was it?

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The UA has also been taken to a scientific outpost both docked and floating in space. Not sold tho

 

[CMDR Cluster]

Affirm, Voyager is missing - went there but didn't spot anything - did anybody with a UA try to find it?

 

[Derthek]

When it was there, nothing happened with the UA.

This thread has made me dangerous!!

I should get back to work haha

 

[CMDR Cluster]

did anybody with a UA try to find it?

question is - maybe the UA will detect voyager now although invisible for normal scanners...

 

[Ben Ryder]

Waters from the founders world?

 

[Derthek]

question is - maybe the UA will detect voyager now although invisible for normal scanners...

The frustrating thing is, this game is so full of bugs we can't know if the voyager's disappearance is intended or not. It's definitely fishy.

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Waters from the founders world?

As far as I know, there hasn't been a test in founders world. I'm sure someone here will know more. The testers have been quite thorough so I can imagine this has been tried.

 

[Dommarraa]

While I do not claim that redeye was wrong, he was only fairly certain. Also he did not do any follow-up or other checks. As with so much of the early work, I look on it with some scepticism. Did the people doing proximity tests ensure the object was within the glow radius? No, because they had no reason to. Did people dropping near planets initiate a honk, or check contacts to see if alien ships appeared or other anomalies?

As we get to the bat crap crazy end of possibilities, we tend (and need) to be looking for more and more obscure results. Or maybe start all over again (I know, shoot me)

 

[Zenith]

I think at this point, we're just throwing science at the wall to see what sticks.

Like this?
[video=youtube;UM-wKQqBBnY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-wKQqBBnY[/video]

I'm starting to run out of fresh ideas, and find myself coming back to old ideas again and again.

To summarise, the only 2 things i can think of right now are:
1) Sell one at Leonard Nimoy Station (for 181836 Cr). Yeah, I've got a list of prices and locations.
2) Allow one to expire in space, surrounded in close proximity with SAP8 Core Containers, a few Hafnium for good measure, and loads of Cmdrs all recording video from various angles. If this course of action is followed, then I would like to be the one "looking down the barrel" and be directly in line for where the flash/pulse/distortion flies out.

In fact here are my prices (UA was illegal and stolen)...

System	Station	Price	Demand
Ictino	Gantt Refinery	181643	n/a
Canopus	Rangarajan's Base	173102	n/a
Exphiay	James K Winston	178803	991 MED
Zende	Vavrova Landing	180390	8456 HIGH
Kuparilda	Oshima Hub	177856	10135 MED
Achenar	Jones Dock	188490	690642 HIGH
LHS 3006	Leonard Nimoy Station	181836	427 HIGH
Kigaso	Barentsz Base	174454	133 HIGH
HIP 89478	Bond City	181269	30226 HIGH
Bunda	Cori Orbital	168298	198114 HIGH

Highest : Achenar
Lowest: Bunda

Did the people doing proximity tests ensure the object was within the glow radius? No, because they had no reason to.

All I know is that the TWO tests that gave 3 purrs instead of 5 were in the shadow of Sleipnir A 1.
First time was when we used 12 SAP8. 4 observers (Ratking15, nilreb, Britain, myself)
Second time was using 8 SAP8, but I couldn't reproduce it after the single time. Not at Sleipnir, not anywhere else. I even tried gentle bumping to nudge SAP8 and UA into a closer cloud. (2 observers, myself and nilreb).

As far as I know, there hasn't been a test in founders world. I'm sure someone here will know more. The testers have been quite thorough so I can imagine this has been tried.

I took the UA to Shinrarta Dezhra before the time I got blown up. I tried it 20km from Jameson Memorial but there was no significant change to the sound output.

 

[Ben Ryder]

While I do not claim that redeye was wrong, he was only fairly certain. Also he did not do any follow-up or other checks. As with so much of the early work, I look on it with some scepticism. Did the people doing proximity tests ensure the object was within the glow radius? No, because they had no reason to. Did people dropping near planets initiate a honk, or check contacts to see if alien ships appeared or other anomalies?

As we get to the bat crap crazy end of possibilities, we tend (and need) to be looking for more and more obscure results. Or maybe start all over again (I know, shoot me)

Yup. The search for obscure seems to the way things are going which is why I was thinking I'l just sell one to a scientist in game if I can ever find one. It would seem rather unfair for the solution to be outside of the game (such as specialist sound analysis and so on).

 

[Kyp Shard]

While I do not claim that redeye was wrong, he was only fairly certain. Also he did not do any follow-up or other checks. As with so much of the early work, I look on it with some scepticism. Did the people doing proximity tests ensure the object was within the glow radius? No, because they had no reason to. Did people dropping near planets initiate a honk, or check contacts to see if alien ships appeared or other anomalies?

As we get to the bat crap crazy end of possibilities, we tend (and need) to be looking for more and more obscure results. Or maybe start all over again (I know, shoot me)

I'm in with this too. I've been reading and re-reading and checking other places, and many promising lines of enquiry just go cold before being fully ruled out. As Dommarrea says, we know more now than when we first did tests that we thought showed no results, and analysed data and thought there was nothing.

We need to do more testing. Testing is good. Then we can have cake.

 

[Nicholas Powell]

Well, the only place we know that there are Dark Wheel affiliated NPC pilots is at the Elite only system, no?

I'm old enough and ugly to have been wrong many times in my life and this being a game (and not work or marriage or thinking that box is strong enough for the china) is no safeguard against a repeat performance but I would be.... hmm... how to put this? Non-plussed, to be polite. I would be non-plussed should the resolution of so broadly-spun an in-game mystery as this rest upon access to a system which is the epitome of exclusivity. Some have access to it because they are Founders (fair play to them all) and others through more graft than I've yet put in (fair play to them all) but, so far as I know at this point, neither of the current UA Custodibearammanders have either means of access. Neither do the sweeping majority of those out hunting or those contributing time, analysis and/or ideas outside of hunting.
This said, I think it wholly implausible that FDev would make this mystery quite so rigidly exclusive that its resolution effectively snubs 99% of the playerbase.

I'm not saying that the Dark Wheel and Raxxla aren't key elements of Elite lore since to do so would be ridiculous and against my own hopes, and I'm looking forward to seeing them creep into the game over the coming years if for nothing else than to feed the mind of the inner ten-year-old that first read of them.
But I cannot believe that FDev would suggest listening to the UAs and would have sat back so long while non-Elite and non-Founders invest so much into the mystery - if for no other reason than the next mystery or chapter would not be something easily listened to at all over the jeers, distrust and complaints. (Zac would hardly deserve to have to brave that.)

It would simply be so poor a move on FDev's part that I simply can't see them having made it. I believe they are too canny for that.

(For similar reasons, I'm unconvinced that SAP8 cannisters are tied to the UAs - albeit to a lesser degree since co-operation can clearly mitigate in their case.)

 

[mrtree]

Because I play that song at the piano since the age of 10?
BTW, it's a very feeble hint, as we are trying to see faces in the clouds by now.
But could be interesting...

The Music of the Spheres, The Moon... i don't know.
I think it's very easy for the UA bearers to pass from the Moon and stop there to watch the UA. It's a 15 minutes thing.

EDIT: Ah! And drop it in front of the BRIGHT side of the moon... Au Claire de Lune

It's worth noting that Claire de Lune is another example of in-game sound asset reuse (it's what the docking computer plays). Maybe the UA learned it from listening to some lazy Fed T-9 pilot shuttling it into stations?

 

[Kuroshio]

Sorry for popping in, but I've been reading as much as I could over the last few ... months? Dear gods .. And I wanted to ask about some basic points the wiki doesn't say anything about (and having spent many a fruitless hour looking for those things, I have to ask here):

It makes sounds like a beacon, does it do anything beacon-y? New targets in the Nav list; changes to Wing beacon behavior if carried by multiple wing members, stuff like that? (New targets in the galaxy map?)

 

[clavain]

This is all getting very Zen.

That would be Zen. Han Zen. He takes his biscuits shaken, not stirred.

 

[Derthek]

Maybe the docking computer can talk to the UA.

 

[mrtree]

I'm just amazed that Mr Tree found one so quickly. I wonder... wishblend has found a couple as well, hasn't she? Perhaps only some CMDRs can find them. I wonder what all the finders have in common.

Omg, I just realized, CMDR Branch : Mr Tree

Tree Branch

Well that's one mystery solved today.

GIVE THIS MAN/WOMAN/CHILD/DOG/UNKNOWN-ARTEFACT/OTHER A GOLD STAR!

 

[Derthek]

Like this?

Exactly like that.

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GIVE THIS MAN/WOMAN/CHILD/DOG/UNKNOWN-ARTEFACT/OTHER A GOLD STAR!

Instead of a gold star, you could give me a UA ;D

 

[simulacrae]

It's worth noting that Claire de Lune is another example of in-game sound asset reuse (it's what the docking computer plays). Maybe the UA learned it from listening to some lazy Fed T-9 pilot shuttling it into stations?

Hmmmm... No Blue Danube? I seem to remember they used Chopin's Nocturne for the film competition