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On the UA lifespan thing.

It degrades, but I thought I'd read it doesn't explode at 0%,? Although that may have been ages ago and may have been "fixed".

It's just assuming it's a scanner, probe, beacon and so on, it makes no sense to me it degrades.
 
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Just throwing a random though out there, if there is a specific set of numbers for deciphering any message out there, they might have used a scientific constant number like the Fibonacci sequence or Pi.

Not going off into random checking again, but if we stick to the fact we have at this time, we need to look at all parts of the ua as individual parts of a whole.

The clicking morse part has been solved.

The honk, we think is the start and finish point for the morse message, but is that all it is for?

The purring sounds, we have not done anything with yet.

The colour pulses, we are looking at getting some type of pattern / seeing if there is a ratio hidden in it somewhere.

I think all the deep end high statistics is going the wrong way although it does look interesting.

My believe is that their is a simple code that ties it all together that we haven't figured out yet, not for lock of trying but unless ed gives up an other clue pointing us in a new direction or just confirming a direction that we are looking at but not worked out yet, I fel that it is going o take a while.

I am sure they are reading this topic with smiles and a lot of interest and I would like to ask them to do one of two things for all of us trying to solve this puzzle.

1:- Confirm a theroy that we have / are trying by saying "Yes you are on the correct path".

or

2:- Provide another clue.

It has be said via Karrish that ed don't want to give any more clues out as that would give it away but they are smart people, I am sure they can put their minds together and create a clue that doesn't.

As a side note that I will add from I am telling a story in my own books, the author already knows the story but unless you provide pointers, others reading the book my miss the subtle clue that the author thinks is plan obvious.

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On the UA lifespan thing.

It degrades, but I thought I'd read it doesn't explode at 0%,? Although that may have been ages ago and may have been "fixed".

It's just assuming it's a scanner, probe, beacon and so on, it makes no sense to me it degrades.

It degrades as everything dropped in space degrades, that function was added a long time ago to counter all the rubbish being jettisoned in space and not disappearing.
 
Hi guys I have been following these thread with great interest and you guys are doing some truely great work.

One thing has struck me though, when put near a SAP 8 Core there was a noticeable effect on the UA, there does not seem to have been any further follow up on this.

Have tests been carried out with multiple cores (8 or more looking like it might have an effect)? Did the sound of the UA change when the core was with it or just the visuals? Maybe these cores are the batteries needed to make this thing run.
 
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Ok, we don't know if Thargs have something to do with the UA or not. It could be not Alien at all, or hybrid in some way, as pointed elsewhere (even if it really seems Alien to me, really, Alien and organic).
Someone somewhere said that a Developer pointed that Thargs use an octal system, because they have 8 fingers.
Can we take it in account while testing?
 
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Cargo scanning a ship with it being carried, I only know of scanning he type 9 when you first get it, I don't think that it has been friendly cargo scanned and listened to.

Of course - and to be honest there's no good reason why you'd get a different scan result from a friendly than you would from an NPC.
 
Do i think asset reuse is happening? Yes. ... Before EDs release David Braben kept hitting on the point of Elite being a source of major emergent player involvement, well folks here it is. It would be madness and frankly disrespectfl for them to not see it through and I don't think David would allow that. I say exciting times are ahead.

I remain bloody hopeful too but after months of PP 'political content' and Xbone pew pew, as an 84'er I'm feeling a bit left out of FD's plans. I'm not taking away from the vast amount of work to get the PC version to where it is, but the DDF lists had some wonderful stuff in to put 'mystery' out in the universe and we've seen _none_ of that - apart from this one object.
 
Tl:dr. Im just going throw here one thought. Have you guys tried 12 or 5 based numeric system? Or has someone suggested it already? Humans use 10 numero system because we have 10 fingers. How many fingers do thargoids have?
 
Tl:dr. Im just going throw here one thought. Have you guys tried 12 or 5 based numeric system? Or has someone suggested it already? Humans use 10 numero system because we have 10 fingers. How many fingers do thargoids have?

8, I've written a post about it just before you: ninja'd! ;)
See 4 posts above yours.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=53&p=2518907&viewfull=1#post2518907

One assumes people have tried putting two UAs together?

Yes, see the wiki for everything that has already been tried with it:
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact
 
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its releasing spores and we have a Outbreak of something in the galnet news ? is that linked to this thing is it a Thargoid Bioweapon are they attacking us the same way we did to them in the end?
 
Just throwing a random though out there, if there is a specific set of numbers for deciphering any message out there, they might have used a scientific constant number like the Fibonacci sequence or Pi.

Not going off into random checking again, but if we stick to the fact we have at this time, we need to look at all parts of the ua as individual parts of a whole.

Yes, but when you consider the sheer amount of possibilities, this can be really frightening. :D

Every time i start to think about it the amount of possibilities explode like a fractal, never ending pattern in my head. Thats why i'm thinking the term "overthinking" would describe this process very precisely.

The clicking morse part has been solved.

The honk, we think is the start and finish point for the morse message, but is that all it is for?

The Honk starts together with the "Glow" sequence of the artifact. The Glow sequence ends when the chittering ends. The complete "Glow" Sequence is: Honk/Glow start together, followed by chittering, followed by the chitter-closer that ends when the glow ends.

The purring sounds, we have not done anything with yet.

In my opinion the purrs are the most overanalyzed part of the UA. If you look in the first pages from the soontill thread all they seem to do is analyzing the purrs. I personally have checked for morse code, tried to associate with binary code, tried bacon code, searched for delimeters and so on. You helped us with some tests to determine if it changes when 2 artifacts are released at the same position..

My believe is that their is a simple code that ties it all together that we haven't figured out yet, not for lock of trying but unless ed gives up an other clue pointing us in a new direction or just confirming a direction that we are looking at but not worked out yet, I fel that it is going o take a while.

I am sure they are reading this topic with smiles and a lot of interest and I would like to ask them to do one of two things for all of us trying to solve this puzzle.

1:- Confirm a theroy that we have / are trying by saying "Yes you are on the correct path".

2:- Provide another clue.

It has be said via Karrish that ed don't want to give any more clues out as that would give it away but they are smart people, I am sure they can put their minds together and create a clue that doesn't.

As a side note that I will add from I am telling a story in my own books, the author already knows the story but unless you provide pointers, others reading the book my miss the subtle clue that the author thinks is plan obvious.

There is definatly something going wrong. And i start to get the impression that it isn't our fault. I mean... its nearly 2 month of work now. If the clues are so obvious we should have found it until now.
 
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For only tangentially related reasons, anyone found a ship carrying Trinkets of Hidden Fortune yet? I haven't found one since my last sighting, but got some Motrola Experience Jelly tonight.... :(

I have some things I want to try with them, though they may have no relation to the UA (unless they prove themselves otherwise)
 
Tl:dr. Im just going throw here one thought. Have you guys tried 12 or 5 based numeric system? Or has someone suggested it already? Humans use 10 numero system because we have 10 fingers. How many fingers do thargoids have?

Trying to write this without sounding condescending. Have we tried "what" with base 5 or base 12?

Numbers in a different base are still just numbers - a representation of a specific value. What is it you think we'd need to assume was in a different base? What do we have that has 12 or 5 states to interpret?
 
Oh gr8. I was skipping the text and probably unconciously saw your idea :D

Rizal72 suggested the number 8 thing.
 
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One assumes people have tried putting two UAs together?

That has been tried.

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I remain bloody hopeful too but after months of PP 'political content' and Xbone pew pew, as an 84'er I'm feeling a bit left out of FD's plans. I'm not taking away from the vast amount of work to get the PC version to where it is, but the DDF lists had some wonderful stuff in to put 'mystery' out in the universe and we've seen _none_ of that - apart from this one object.

From todays dev update.

There's also interesting puzzles and mysteries like the unknown artefacts that will continue to develop.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=165096
 
Hi guys I have been following these thread with great interest and you guys are doing some truely great work.

One thing has struck me though, when put near a SAP 8 Core there was a noticeable effect on the UA, there does not seem to have been any further follow up on this.

Have tests been carried out with multiple cores (8 or more looking like it might have an effect)? Did the sound of the UA change when the core was with it or just the visuals? Maybe these cores are the batteries needed to make this thing run.

Wish and QorbeQ, while you guys are here could you please confirm if the above has had any further tests? Cheers
 
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@qorbeq
I really dont know how to explain it. Especially when typing with my phone.

But I am trying to say if there is number series which could read from binary to 8 system and not to decimal system
 
Trying to write this without sounding condescending. Have we tried "what" with base 5 or base 12?

Numbers in a different base are still just numbers - a representation of a specific value. What is it you think we'd need to assume was in a different base? What do we have that has 12 or 5 states to interpret?

Yes, you are absolutely right, but I think that he (and me) was simply talking about "dividing" or multiplying by 8 any number that comes out, like green or purlple lights, and so on.
But I don't believe in it even while I'm typing it... ;)
I still think that the solution is all about "listening", and no more. And listening is related to "counting" sometimes. That's all.
 
Yes, you are absolutely right, but I think that he (and me) was simply talking about "dividing" or multiplying by 8 any number that comes out, like green or purlple lights, and so on.
But I don't believe in it even while I'm typing it... ;)
I still think that the solution is all about "listening", and no more. And listening is related to "counting" sometimes. That's all.

People have done various test converting each of the signal out puts from both binary and decimal to base 8,12 and 16 from memory and none of them seemed to give any meaningful output.
 
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