About the VID8/HIB8, as the "discoverer" I've always called it "pseudo morse" because it behaves indeed as morse code does, it was "decripted" by two morse experts here in the forum, but as it seems to have no meaning at all, we could assume it could be just a background loop, that repeats each ~5 seconds, and perhaps it's a kind of noise and that's all. We don't know if it is morse or another kind of signal we was not able to decrypt.
My opinion is that it's too short a sequence to be sure that it's significant, given that it's not obviously meaningful. If it spelt out "help" or something then I'd be pretty convinced you'd found something important, but with it being "VID8" or "HIB8" I'm inclined to think it's a case of finding something that just happens to seem like a signal. So basically I agree with you.
But conversion from morse code isn't decryption, that's just translation. There is always the possibility that the message was encoded before it was translated into morse.
It's pretty well impossible to decrypt a message that short unless you have a very good idea of what it is meant to be and/or how it was encrypted. Otherwise it's quite easy to come up with any number of reasonable sounding solutions.
This is not to detract from ongoing wing-ups, such as those Delmonte and others have mentioned and invited people to join in with. (Good luck, all.) But it is offered up as an opportunity for those who prefer to schedule limited time well in advance to join with those commanders who are getting a daily fix of eighteen hours, and all commanders in between.
With the possibility of Kitty the UA being successfully sacrificed... er, I mean subjected to destructive testing before then, and assuming satisfactory results in that, this Barrel is not to snag a UA for destructive testing.
The hope** is for us to cooperatively acquire a UA which shall be used for open-ended testing. My own view is that testing with a focus on locations would be an excellent way to employ such a UA - allowing for some swifter 'tick offs' from the excruciatingly long Maybe List.
As before, it's quite simple at heart. Get in, wing up, look out, dive down, scoop up, get away. If it's not the right kind of Strong Signal Source, just leave. Please ensure your UA intentions are agreeable to your wingmates. Free bar and biscuits.
If you've not participated in one of these events before, it is likely that others there on the day will have and shall be happy to explain successful tips. And general UA and game gossip as well.
As ever, I shall be happy to assist participating commanders with problems or queries on the day.
Oh, and I'm in talks with this event's sponsor - Shiva DiGrassi Salons of Vega, "Where Ugly Gets Its Marching Orders!" - to arrange a prize of 50t of Palladium each to any wing beating the 25m record.
But you won't. Or will you..?
* To be confirmed, but currently recommended
** Other hopes are available. Some of them float.
The change of venue from Timocani is in hope of reinforcing the theory that winging up is the true root of Barrel-related successes to date. If we have comparable success, supporting the inestimable Me Myself McPowell's theory that what counts is winged-up mass-camping in a system known to have spawned UAs before, then that will be of very useful note for us all.
Should it be required, I shall be happy to hold onto a UA temporarily while a preferred Bearer arranges rendezvous for a hand-off. I have no driving desire to maintain Bearer status.
My opinion is that it's too short a sequence to be sure that it's significant, given that it's not obviously meaningful. If it spelt out "help" or something then I'd be pretty convinced you'd found something important, but with it being "VID8" or "HIB8" I'm inclined to think it's a case of finding something that just happens to seem like a signal. So basically I agree with you.
@Rizal - how on earth did you get it this clear? - if it's long PM is fine as I don't want to take this thread off topic, but I'm genuinely interested in tools/methods used.
Its worth pointing out that if there was any consideration that letting it destroy the ship by degrading the power plant to 0% might be an answer, that's all but quashed with the Dev update changing power plant mechanics
Its worth pointing out that if there was any consideration that letting it destroy the ship by degrading the power plant to 0% might be an answer, that's all but quashed with the Dev update changing power plant mechanics
Well......I would suggest people check out my UA videos then as that's my UA as I showed Fanatics on stream and off stream as a way to get word out about the UA more and so more minds on it.......I think I did record my view of when he was streaming but not when I showed him the second time.......and no he did not try anything as you can see and he was in a hauler both times if I recall correctly.
The only time I ever came close to a UA was in 109 Virginis. Me, Zulu Romeo, Psychofish, and Wishblend were in a wing we all were chasing different signals and I found a convoy carrying one after two or three strong sources.
Could be that we had 4 pilots combing through the system so naturally the spawning of sources and us identifying them was sped up significantly but that is the only time I ever found one and I've ran into 100s of SSSs since then (all of them by myself). Winging up has to be the key also why put it in the wings trailer?
I also believe the goal is to wing up to find the UA more quickly and to put all the pieces together. Each CMDR should record the audio, so that one can cancel out the purrs of the other, in order to get a full "purrless" message. The purrs are only hear to distract us, to hide the sound lying underneath!
Just got promoted to moderator on /r/UnknownArtefact, and I'm going to start working on making the stickied post a lot more informative so we don't get as many repeat suggestions!
So whoever keeps an eye on the subreddit, look forward to that
Just got promoted to moderator on /r/UnknownArtefact, and I'm going to start working on making the stickied post a lot more informative so we don't get as many repeat suggestions!
So whoever keeps an eye on the subreddit, look forward to that
Just got promoted to moderator on /r/UnknownArtefact, and I'm going to start working on making the stickied post a lot more informative so we don't get as many repeat suggestions!
So whoever keeps an eye on the subreddit, look forward to that
Thos has probably been sugested alredy or indeed is just plain wrong but...
the ua damages internal module's... like the fsd? Mabe if one jumps to hyperspace at just the right moment it will cause a miss jump and one might find them selves... no longer in cansas?
Thos has probably been sugested alredy or indeed is just plain wrong but...
the ua damages internal module's... like the fsd? Mabe if one jumps to hyperspace at just the right moment it will cause a miss jump and one might find them selves... no longer in cansas?
Check the wiki please as we've tried to cause misjumps and so anything said before should be on there but people are getting very specific with their suggestions so....I'm having to add more detail each time...as to what I've done.
@Rizal - how on earth did you get it this clear? - if it's long PM is fine as I don't want to take this thread off topic, but I'm genuinely interested in tools/methods used.
WAIT!
That one it's me playing it, using Garage Band Keyboard, so it's a "personal" reproduction to help people in this thread to recognize the real sound in the real recording.
The best "optimization" of the UA BG sound is this one: https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-4th-sound-isolated
Here I've tried to isolate the sound using Adobe Audacity, cutting some frequencies and focusing on some specific ones.
The two people who translated it, used this last recording to do it: one heard VID8, the other one heard HIB8.
I've also tried decoding the signal as binary, counting the short bips as 0 and the longs as 1. Nothing meaningful. Tried also ROT13 and friends as well. Then I gave up, for now...
Have we proven that the "VID8" sound is always exactly the same? The entire time the UA is floating in space? No matter what system? And it goes away completely when the number of purrs is reduced (whatever is causing that), right?
WAIT!
That one it's me playing it, using Garage Band Keyboard, so it's a "personal" reproduction to help people in this thread to recognize the real sound in the real recording.
The best "optimization" of the UA BG sound is this one: https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-4th-sound-isolated
Here I've tried to isolate the sound using Adobe Audacity, cutting some frequencies and focusing on some specific ones.
The two people who translated it, used this last recording to do it: one heard VID8, the other one heard HIB8.
I've also tried decoding the signal as binary, counting the short bips as 0 and the longs as 1. Nothing meaningful. Tried also ROT13 and friends as well. Then I gave up, for now...
This is not to detract from ongoing wing-ups, such as those Delmonte and others have mentioned and invited people to join in with. (Good luck, all.) But it is offered up as an opportunity for those who prefer to schedule limited time well in advance to join with those commanders who are getting a daily fix of eighteen hours, and all commanders in between.
With the possibility of Kitty the UA being successfully sacrificed... er, I mean subjected to destructive testing before then, and assuming satisfactory results in that, this Barrel is not to snag a UA for destructive testing.
The hope** is for us to cooperatively acquire a UA which shall be used for open-ended testing. My own view is that testing with a focus on locations would be an excellent way to employ such a UA - allowing for some swifter 'tick offs' from the excruciatingly long Maybe List.
As before, it's quite simple at heart. Get in, wing up, look out, dive down, scoop up, get away. If it's not the right kind of Strong Signal Source, just leave. Please ensure your UA intentions are agreeable to your wingmates. Free bar and biscuits.
If you've not participated in one of these events before, it is likely that others there on the day will have and shall be happy to explain successful tips. And general UA and game gossip as well.
As ever, I shall be happy to assist participating commanders with problems or queries on the day.
Oh, and I'm in talks with this event's sponsor - Shiva DiGrassi Salons of Vega, "Where Ugly Gets Its Marching Orders!" - to arrange a prize of 50t of Palladium each to any wing beating the 25m record.
But you won't. Or will you..?
* To be confirmed, but currently recommended
** Other hopes are available. Some of them float.
The change of venue from Timocani is in hope of reinforcing the theory that winging up is the true root of Barrel-related successes to date. If we have comparable success, supporting the inestimable Me Myself McPowell's theory that what counts is winged-up mass-camping in a system known to have spawned UAs before, then that will be of very useful note for us all.
Should it be required, I shall be happy to hold onto a UA temporarily while a preferred Bearer arranges rendezvous for a hand-off. I have no driving desire to maintain Bearer status.
The only time I ever came close to a UA was in 109 Virginis. Me, Zulu Romeo, Psychofish, and Wishblend were in a wing we all were chasing different signals and I found a convoy carrying one after two or three strong sources.
Could be that we had 4 pilots combing through the system so naturally the spawning of sources and us identifying them was sped up significantly but that is the only time I ever found one and I've ran into 100s of SSSs since then (all of them by myself). Winging up has to be the key also why put it in the wings trailer?
Have we proven that the "VID8" sound is always exactly the same? The entire time the UA is floating in space? No matter what system? And it goes away completely when the number of purrs is reduced (whatever is causing that), right?
I know that sound better then everyone, I'm looking for it in every recording, and I can say this: It's not a dynamic sound as some of the others. It's a loop. That loops. Always the same.
The only "strange" thing that it does is that, in some occasions, under some circumstances, it disappears.
OK, Rizal, and others out there with good ear, here is something...
But I have to start with the fact that I can't really hear what Rizal does in his cleared up background recording, for my ears it's just white noise.... so, feel free to send me to some warmer place.
I CAN hear something morse-like - and I kind of remember hearing it throughout while recording these - for example it is at 3:55 here right after the lights go off. (it's just easy to mark what I mean)
This particular one is just 3 blips. So either "s" (...) or "o" (---). While the next one is at about 4:06, which spells either "g" (--.) or "u" (..-)
Now this sounds like only 1 character at a time = 3-5 blips (if it's morse), and it's different letters as I go through the recording. Mostly I can hear it right before the howl, but it happens at (seemingly) random intervals.
It is very clear on Delmonte's video here at 3 seconds in, (low - high - high) "w"/"d" and for example at 40 seconds (high - low - low), again "w" or "d", but the other one.
Has this been heard before? Can someone link me to the investigation regards to it? (Is it actually the VID8 but I can't hear it properly??)
