Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Derthek]

Finished 'And Here the Wheel'...

My thoughts:

- UAs are not kosher. There is alien stuff there - but they're human made, or human-tampered.

- The clue to listen to them was so that we'd discover the human link. No more than that - that's a big revelation.

- The next logical step is to ask the question: how do they end up on these convoys where the pilots carrying them have been told not to ask questions?

- Someone in-game knows what the UAs are.

Ergo: we need to find a way to uncover who that is, or what it is they know, or why they are trying to ship them to unknown locations.

My gut feeling is it links to both Halsey's assassination and Duval's assassination. Find out who's distributing the UAs, you find out who's responsible for the assassinations.

How much of this is actually doable by us is another matter. Probably not much.

I wonder if the head of the UA is alien, an the pods/spine are human
it would be interesting to try to dissect this thing and figure out whats ours and whats theirs.

edit: sorry, was just thinking out loud. any attempt at figuring out whats human and whats alien would be guess work at best.

edit2: do you ever wonder what the background picture of the forums is? Like, what stars are in the background of this very post?

 

[Murp]

I wonder if the head of the UA is alien, an the pods/spine are human
it would be interesting to try to dissect this thing and figure out whats ours and whats theirs.

edit: sorry, was just thinking out loud. any attempt at figuring out whats human and whats alien would be guess work at best.

edit2: do you ever wonder what the background picture of the forums is? Like, what stars are in the background of this very post?

The fact that it outputs morse already points to human origin/tampering.

 

[AGSeeker]

Finished 'And Here the Wheel'...

My thoughts:

- UAs are not kosher. There is alien stuff there - but they're human made, or human-tampered.

- The clue to listen to them was so that we'd discover the human link. No more than that - that's a big revelation.

- The next logical step is to ask the question: how do they end up on these convoys where the pilots carrying them have been told not to ask questions?

- Someone in-game knows what the UAs are.

Ergo: we need to find a way to uncover who that is, or what it is they know, or why they are trying to ship them to unknown locations.

My gut feeling is it links to both Halsey's assassination and Duval's assassination. Find out who's distributing the UAs, you find out who's responsible for the assassinations.

How much of this is actually doable by us is another matter. Probably not much.

Didn't some People "died in accidents" (read "got killed") which were involved in the investigation of Starship One Accident.

 

[lo lobey]

I can't rep you enough. I'm not sure if there's such a thing as telepathy, but for the past few days I've been thinking about these sounds as well - for the same reasons you mention. I've noticed them while doing my trips with Bob, but was kinda in a state as you describe "sound is analyzed to death", there must be something already done about these too. What got me convinced to look into it was the "clean" recordings - where the bg sound was gone, yet these little purrs were there, and much more audible.

How many vids did you check so far? What are the 9 sounds that you hear? assuming . is high - is low, I'm guessing
...
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.--
..-
-..
-.-
.-.
--.
That's only 8... But I remember hearing longer ones with 4 or 5 blips... Do you have a collection of the variants somewhere? Do you have a pointer to this "small purr" you're referring to?

Doh. I'm quite eager.

I believe the sounds you refer to as "high", "low" are individual symbols/letters. I will try to illustrate what to look for in the audio for others that do not know what we are talking about, once you know what to listen for you will hear it in every video/recording.

This is a video zenith uploaded on youtube 10th july with "sleipnir like" audio (it is actually recorded in sleipnir hehe).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUNlNDULuuA

Because the noise is so cleared up it is easy to show on a spectrum what the different sounds "look like". Below is just a segment from the video showing the different parts of the audio. The sounds in question is marked with grey boxes.


Now, below i have tried to cut out and illustrate all of the sounds in question (we can call them "words") from the video (watch it and try to listen for these yourself ) as well as identify the 9 different reoccurring "sub sounds" (we can call these "letters") plus a "small purr". I have named them after the way i differentiate them myself.
I know all of this just sounds like wobbly noise and that these cant possibly be separated into individual sounds just from a spectrum image but try to believe me when i say they are indeed distinguishable.


These 9 "letters" return in different combinations in all recordings. There are reoccurring "words" but i have yet to find any repeating series of words (sentence if i may).

 

[bitstorm]

Hello CMDRs.
here is the definitive UA Background sound LOOP.
It's the original version, without any modification or enhancement. (please activate the loop button)
It is a unique audio file of 5 seconds, that repeats itself over and over.

https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-bg-sound-def2

Oh! that's a different sound to the one I thought you were referring to. The one I thought you were talking about previously is the background high pitched tune like sound.

But you're talking about that constant (more obvious) background "noise" that occurs? That I could only describe as (probably quite badly) some old motor that doesn't spin very well and makes a weird grinding noise.

 

[LordZoltan]

Didn't some People "died in accidents" (read "got killed") which were involved in the investigation of Starship One Accident.

Yup - it would appear that anyone involved in the aftermath of this really needs to make sure their life insurance policies are sorted out. Also - why were the few 'survivors' above suspicion, too.

 

[bitstorm]

9 letters/symbols would also allow for it being an extended harvard spectral classification of stars with the 9 spectral types (O, B, A, F, G, K, M, L, T). Or the 9 different morgan-keenan luminosity classes (Ia-O, Ia, Ib, II, III, IV, V, VI (or sd), D). (both classifications are used in game). Each "word" would describe a system of stars divided by the small purrs. This is wishful thinking on my part tho and i have tried to assign the variants to these with no result.

Love the theory.

The trouble with it is repeat deployments do not seem to produce the same set of purrs.

Aye it's possible it cycles and the "entry point" is different each time but people have looked at this and not seen a repeat.

The trouble is it's quite a long time ago I've looked at this and you become not quite so sure of what your conclusions were!

We've actually done this test before, but I think for slightly different reasons but...

Perhaps a good test for your theory would be to UA deploy in a system with a single star only, ideally with a short morse name (to hear more purrs) record, then repeat and compare both audio tracks?

 

[bitstorm]

Now, "in-between purrs" are a yet again different kind of sound, I describe them in the post below:
(this has been discovered and analyzed ages ago, it was just bugging me)

I may be wrong I don't think they have been well analysed as you say, it's just people have seen and looked at them and I think generally they think there's nothing much to them and attention goes elsewhere. All I can tell you about them is that there appears to be 3 or so variations, ie they are not dynamic as such like the morse, more they are one of a small set of types, like each honk/wail is from a set of two types, or the purrs are one of a set of two types.

 

[lo lobey]

Love the theory.

The trouble with it is repeat deployments do not seem to produce the same set of purrs.

Aye it's possible it cycles and the "entry point" is different each time but people have looked at this and not seen a repeat.

The trouble is it's quite a long time ago I've looked at this and you become not quite so sure of what your conclusions were!

We've actually done this test before, but I think for slightly different reasons but...

Perhaps a good test for your theory would be to UA deploy in a system with a single star only, ideally with a short morse name (to hear more purrs) record, then repeat and compare both audio tracks?

Yes this is the "because it looks good in on paper" theory. As it is not repeating it would not refer to the nearest star but some other ever changing set of systems. It would make no sense without any other information.

 

[bitstorm]

I wonder if the drifting in frequency of the purrs is consistent with doppler motion? If you are moving past an object, the apparent recession velocity changes (even if your actual relative velocity is fixed). I suppose that the ship was slowly drifting past the artefact as the sound was recorded.

Hehe good catch. =D

To answer no it's definitely not due to the observer or UA moving, BUT..

The UA does indeed manifest a doppler effect, move away and you can hear pitch shifting coming into play - which is really cool, I think. =)

(this is why I tend to brush over talk of third purr types, if you think you've found different purrs it's worth checking the video rather than listening to the audio in isolation)

You can clearly hear it here : 2m25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5WiruauHoE&feature=youtu.be&t=145

 

[bitstorm]

As it is not repeating it would not refer to the nearest star but some other ever changing set of systems. It would make no sense without any other information.

All I think we can say is no-one has seen a pattern repeat with the purrs so far, does not mean it's not worth looking and experimenting. Please don't let me put you off investigating! I'm just adding a bit of background info.

The purrs - I still believe!

Have some Tim Cappello.
[video=youtube;LpuwcINDHnQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpuwcINDHnQ[/video]

 

[Mike Juliett Kilo]

A Cmdr on our G+ group suggested Gray code?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_code

I'm quite familiar with Gray code, but it doesn't make sense here since it doesn't enforce no triples afaik. Gray code is a code where the numbers change by only 1 bit each increment, and is used for position or rotational encoders.

 

[simulacrae]

Latest installment .... I know the space egg has been brought up many times before - But after staring long and hard at the UA - I am pretty convinced that the markings are pointing towards some sort of metamorphosis ... How we "hatch" it - who knows


Edit: ya ok its Embryo - Larva - Pupa ....

 

[Han_Zen]

LARVAE.... PUPAE.... ADULT

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Scarab Beetle guys .... The drawings on side of the cans are Larvae

The drawing on the head of UA is a Pupae .......

And we know what Scarabs like .... I don't suppose anyone has dumped biowaste on a UA yet?

Hello creatures of the void.


I have dug a bit a bit more on the Scarab connection.
As simularae showed us, the UA and the pupae stage of the scarab are very similar.

I Egyptian mythology, the scarab god is Khepera (several ways to spell). The god of the rising sun. A symbol of evolution, metamorphosis, transformation and coming into being.
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/khepera.htm

I found a system named Khepera, with one station called 'Very Horizions'.

Khepera is also linked to the story of creation. Snip from Wikipedia: "Khepri was principally depicted as a scarab beetle, though in some tomb paintings and funerary papyri he is represented as a human male with a scarab as a head. He is also depicted as a scarab in a solar barque held aloft by Nun."


Nun is "the deification of the primordial watery abyss in ancient Egyptian religion": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_(mythology)

Nun is also a system in Elite Dangerous. I'm currently exploring this system. Had to log of before I finished.

In short, The scarab(Khepera) rose form the abyss(Nun) to create all life.


As written on the Khepera page (first link): The particular dung beetle the Egyptians identified with Khepera was the Scarabaeus sacer.

The Scarabaeus sacer is the exact beetle in simulacraes picture.

Intriguing stuff this.

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Latest installment .... I know the space egg has been brought up many times before - But after staring long and hard at the UA - I am pretty convinced that the markings are pointing towards some sort of metamorphosis ... How we "hatch" it - who knows
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Nice. More Scarabs.

 

[bitstorm]

Yes this is the "because it looks good in on paper" theory. As it is not repeating it would not refer to the nearest star but some other ever changing set of systems. It would make no sense without any other information.

Just to say on this...

That the purrs quieten down during the morse phase really complicates things.

There's one notable bad conclusion I came to due to this, which I am not going to mention. =p

Essentially it seems common sense to listen to the purrs, note down high low values, then look at what you have. But if it's correct that the purrs go quiet, but actually still exist during this time, well if repeat deployments are just a different entry point in the cycle then looking at two transcriptions no repeats will be seen.

If you get what I'm trying to say... In other words the quiet portions will overwrite different bits of the purr sequence in the two recordings, completely obfuscating any pattern comparison which does not include specific timings (ie a transcription with just HLHLHLLHH which most will do)

This is why I think, if we are testing if the pattern repeats, it's really important to test at a short morse name i.e.

Spoiler

[video=youtube;Q-MU5oYJdr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-MU5oYJdr0[/video]

 

[simulacrae]

Hello creatures of the void.


I have dug a bit a bit more on the Scarab connection. .

Awesome find ! I also did a search for beetles in the FFE Journal - saw something on "Zimbalaen beetles" being ordered to be eradicated by the emperor after being stung by one ...

 

[Han_Zen]

Awesome find ! I also did a search for beetles in the FFE Journal - saw something on "Zimbalaen beetles" being ordered to be eradicated by the emperor after being stung by one ...

Thats a funny story

 

[rizal72]

Oh! that's a different sound to the one I thought you were referring to. The one I thought you were talking about previously is the background high pitched tune like sound.

But you're talking about that constant (more obvious) background "noise" that occurs? That I could only describe as (probably quite badly) some old motor that doesn't spin very well and makes a weird grinding noise.

Yes that's the sound, and it always been. And if you listen to it carefully in loop, with headphones, there's a very clear pattern: a sequence of sounds, "bip" like, high pitched, playing something like this:

.... .. . .. --- .. .

And let me say just this: it's a single audio file, of 5 seconds, looping forever.

BTW I'm very interested in those in-between purrs that lo lobey is analyzing so well...

 

[simulacrae]

Thats a funny story

Oh ya and I just realized we can chalk up the Music of the Spheres references to Ovids Metamorphoses probably ...

 

[I and I Redeye]

Awesome find ! I also did a search for beetles in the FFE Journal - saw something on "Zimbalaen beetles" being ordered to be eradicated by the emperor after being stung by one ...

There is also a planet named that had an underground hive base but I guess we'll have to wait till season 3 or 4 to see if FD put it in.