Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn
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Could it be that the markings on the cans are also a form of morse-code or something?
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As it now seems here is now working again a little contribution from the "not so easy to manage long runs for many CMDR's" section:
#1 California Nebula check (incl. CALIFORNIA SECTOR HW-W C1-7) --> watch Wiki
#2 End off the NGC 1333 road (after California Nebula check):
https://www.dropbox.com/l/DjtSqfOcoSS7F8unoUWXQo 84MB
Target was: from where came the UA in Wings 1.2 Trailer? (watch galactic map ...
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#3 Regor (UA gives no permit yet):
https://www.dropbox.com/l/UKeNL1Si01YG2Y6MyJHuSn 81MB
Notice: "fireplace sizzling noise" after shut down thrusters -> see Edit
______ CMDR Zeniths test near Polaris: "A JUMP LOCK TO THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN DENIED"
______ REGOR: "UNABLE TO HYPERSPACE TO THIS SYSTEM"
We salute you!
Edit 15.08.: The mentioned "fireplace sizzling noise" sound is in fact ship freeezing.
May be a bug in Anaconda cockpit design: no ice to see (as at other ships). But clear the same sound .
As it now seems here is now working again a little contribution from the "not so easy to manage long runs for many CMDR's" section:
#1 California Nebula check (incl. CALIFORNIA SECTOR HW-W C1-7) --> watch Wiki
#2 End off the NGC 1333 road (after California Nebula check):
https://www.dropbox.com/l/DjtSqfOcoSS7F8unoUWXQo 84MB
Target was: from where came the UA in Wings 1.2 Trailer? (watch galactic map ...
)#3 Regor (UA gives no permit yet):
https://www.dropbox.com/l/UKeNL1Si01YG2Y6MyJHuSn 81MB
Notice: "fireplace sizzling noise" after shut down thrusters -> see Edit
______ CMDR Zeniths test near Polaris: "A JUMP LOCK TO THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN DENIED"
______ REGOR: "UNABLE TO HYPERSPACE TO THIS SYSTEM"
We salute you!
Edit 15.08.: The mentioned "fireplace sizzling noise" sound is in fact ship freeezing.
May be a bug in Anaconda cockpit design: no ice to see (as at other ships). But clear the same sound .
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My last couple of posts has been referring the tiny "in-between sounds", not the purrs. But yes i understand the problem and your io video is one of my favorites
The same problem would also apply to the "in-between sounds" if they are produced the same way and "muted" during the chittering, but I'm not sure they are. They are not as rhythmic/regular as the purrs.
OK, so it is 5 or 6 then. Drat.
It's not doppler in this case, the ships are - most of the time - stationary compared to the UA. Besides, it does do doppler when you're moving - it sounds different.
Err, hm, compatibility in this case depends on entry point - look at the example picture on the wiki page - the GE Thomas version between the second and fifth data bit. it's exactly HHLLHL, but to get a manchester encoded value, you need 2 more blips on either side. (?H HL LH L?)
That said, the delay encoding does worth a look too, as it's description is exactly what we see here. "It's guaranteed to have transition every other bit"
Yeah. Erm. Eww. Uck. I'm pretty sure it's not! Fish sounds or not
(I know whales are not fish)
Doh. Work cut out for and stuff. MOAR coffeee. Now.
I believe the sounds you refer to as "high", "low" are individual symbols/letters. I will try to illustrate what to look for in the audio for others that do not know what we are talking about, once you know what to listen for you will hear it in every video/recording.
This is a video zenith uploaded on youtube 10th july with "sleipnir like" audio (it is actually recorded in sleipnir hehe).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUNlNDULuuA
Because the noise is so cleared up it is easy to show on a spectrum what the different sounds "look like". Below is just a segment from the video showing the different parts of the audio. The sounds in question is marked with grey boxes.
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Now, below i have tried to cut out and illustrate all of the sounds in question (we can call them "words") from the video (watch it and try to listen for these yourself
I know all of this just sounds like wobbly noise and that these cant possibly be separated into individual sounds just from a spectrum image but try to believe me when i say they are indeed distinguishable.
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These 9 "letters" return in different combinations in all recordings. There are reoccurring "words" but i have yet to find any repeating series of words (sentence if i may).
Whooa! Hold on there buddy! I relate to this the same way Drax does to metaphors. I believe you when you say you can hear the difference, but it... goes over MY head.
What if we dial back a notch? I think you could have possibly identified the different types of sound files these are made out of
Here's an experiment for you: can you take a look at the actual Morse code chittering - I'm pretty sure there are at least 3 types of beeps, and 1 or 2 boops (using my less than completely functional ears), still since it's Morse, we ought to "normalize" these to translate it. Is it possible to categorize the 9 sounds into 2 distinct groups based on pitch? Then look at what you get in "one in-between purr session" - as I described above: high-high-low being one example "session" - to try to form "words".
Or 3 distinct groups and have a go with that?
Besides, if you did make a list / spreadsheet with your findings as is, I would love to take a look! Who knows maybe it is 9 letters (numbers? coordinates?) we just need more data... Who knows? Well, we know who knows. But they remain silent for now.
I do have quite a few videos that I made in Bast (short name) - when it's not close to a planet, because that's long. Could use those for a preliminary run.
It is a bit worrying that the purrs don't seem to repeat. If we could find a pattern there - a cycle as you say, that would count as a breakthrough in my book.
OK then, let's see what we can make out of them.
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I started to concentrate on the fact, that UAs con only be found in certain regions of the galaxy.
So i decided to plot them in a coordinate system. I wrote a small java application for it.
Sourcecode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxSvJ7WszQi1YnpxQ0pWa21pYnc/view?usp=sharing
Executable: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxSvJ7WszQi1TDZYUmtaSnRPdW8/view?usp=sharing
Download the zip and extract&start it. Right click shows labels.
If you want custom coordinates place the csv file from inside the jar right next to it.
Here's one picture of confirmed UA systems
Looks pretty symetric at the bottom part.
The only intersting thing i have found so far is, when i add the systems from the wings trailer (California Sector HW-W c1-7+ Leonard Nimoy) I can see the bast is inside the connection line.
So i decided to plot them in a coordinate system. I wrote a small java application for it.
Sourcecode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxSvJ7WszQi1YnpxQ0pWa21pYnc/view?usp=sharing
Executable: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxSvJ7WszQi1TDZYUmtaSnRPdW8/view?usp=sharing
Download the zip and extract&start it. Right click shows labels.
If you want custom coordinates place the csv file from inside the jar right next to it.
Here's one picture of confirmed UA systems
Looks pretty symetric at the bottom part.
The only intersting thing i have found so far is, when i add the systems from the wings trailer (California Sector HW-W c1-7+ Leonard Nimoy) I can see the bast is inside the connection line.
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Its possible ... but wasn't able to make it out myself - there was a whole discussion on them being mayan numbers
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Afternoon All.... We spent 2 hours last night in Timiconi dropping on SSS only and recording the finds see here for spread sheet
https://www.dropbox.com/s/74fx6gy42az2q23/SSS Log.xlsx?dl=0
In short, in 2 hours we had 34 hits only 3 Fed convoys that's around 1 SSS every 3.5 Min Some took longer maybe 10 Mins between spawns but then you wold get 3 or 4 in quick succession.
This is consistent with when I have hunted alone in the past, However every time I wing up the spawn rate changes especially for the Fed Convoys.
This is something I would like to prove.
So we intend on running Timiconi again tonight and I am requesting the assistance of 3 Commanders to wing up and collect data.
Kick off 7:30 BST
Simple setup
1, Drop on SSS ONLY
2, If it is not a Fed Convoy do NOT engage get back into SC as fast as possible
3, Please record your SSS drops, how many Minutes in the game and what you find
4, If it is a Fed Convoy make a note of the Configuration,
5, If no UA Back into SC as quickly as possible
6, We will run for 2 hours
7, Operating in "Mobius Group" First to request wing gets the slot
Please PM me the data afterwards and I will correlate it, a simple count will suffice.
*****Please note if we bag a UA I am a man of my word and intend on handing it to Rizal for testing, though of course we will all have a good luck first,
just try not to destroy it ! ********
Hope to see you tonight.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/74fx6gy42az2q23/SSS Log.xlsx?dl=0
In short, in 2 hours we had 34 hits only 3 Fed convoys that's around 1 SSS every 3.5 Min Some took longer maybe 10 Mins between spawns but then you wold get 3 or 4 in quick succession.
This is consistent with when I have hunted alone in the past, However every time I wing up the spawn rate changes especially for the Fed Convoys.
This is something I would like to prove.
So we intend on running Timiconi again tonight and I am requesting the assistance of 3 Commanders to wing up and collect data.
Kick off 7:30 BST
Simple setup
1, Drop on SSS ONLY
2, If it is not a Fed Convoy do NOT engage get back into SC as fast as possible
3, Please record your SSS drops, how many Minutes in the game and what you find
4, If it is a Fed Convoy make a note of the Configuration,
5, If no UA Back into SC as quickly as possible
6, We will run for 2 hours
7, Operating in "Mobius Group" First to request wing gets the slot
Please PM me the data afterwards and I will correlate it, a simple count will suffice.
*****Please note if we bag a UA I am a man of my word and intend on handing it to Rizal for testing, though of course we will all have a good luck first,
just try not to destroy it !
********Hope to see you tonight.
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A (hopfully) last time : no facts
I'm sorry that it is now a response to your efforts. No offense. All contributions are welcome. But:
If you trigger "H&M" or "Apple" trucks in the USA or United Kingdom you then found so the factory in China?
Exploring the conus area behind the "LHS 3006"/"CALIFORNIA SECTOR HW-W C1-7" is to easy for most CMDR's
or is it bad as that would require the CMDR's must play the game?
Sorry again. +1 REP for the effort but think this is a dead end (same as following the convoi - no "final" target in game yet)
Going in "shut-up-mode" again ....
We salute you!
Edit: If the main intention was to support the UA convoi hunter -> Thanks again!
I'm sorry that it is now a response to your efforts. No offense. All contributions are welcome. But:
If you trigger "H&M" or "Apple" trucks in the USA or United Kingdom you then found so the factory in China?
Exploring the conus area behind the "LHS 3006"/"CALIFORNIA SECTOR HW-W C1-7" is to easy for most CMDR's
or is it bad as that would require the CMDR's must play the game?
Sorry again. +1 REP for the effort but think this is a dead end (same as following the convoi - no "final" target in game yet)
Going in "shut-up-mode" again ....
We salute you!
Edit: If the main intention was to support the UA convoi hunter -> Thanks again!
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What I want to know is how come their ships don't have magic escape capsules like ours?
Its possible ... but wasn't able to make it out myself - there was a whole discussion on them being mayan numbers
If it is to be read as dates (it looks like date format), it is dates abou 2000 BC.
I had one date in 1849 BC as my best shot :-/
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Yeah, I would like to see a nice in-lore explanation for this as well. Is it only for Pilots Federation members? But then NPCs are not part of this? It's a bit too much handwaveium for my immersion receptors.
What if we dial back a notch? I think you could have possibly identified the different types of sound files these are made out of
Is it possible to categorize the 9 sounds into 2 distinct groups based on pitch? Then look at what you get in "one in-between purr session" - as I described above: high-high-low being one example "session" - to try to form "words".
The thing about the chittering morse is that it is not distinguished as highs/lows/meeps/moops, only signal length/duration masked with pitch changes to obscure it from plain sight. In the first picture in my post you can roughly draw a sinusoidal curve through the chittering part and see that the morse follows.
Categorising them as either high or low pitch would be almost completely subjective as they are not uniform.
According to the Galnet News: "She saw the transport break open only metres from her large window as she approached the station."
So it was destroyed before the impact. If it is indeed an assassination, it would explain somehow why there where no escaoe capsule.
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I've never heard this crackling noise before - and I like to think I have a good retention for previously encountered sounds. I also haven't tested for it (I tend to keep my thrusters activated ;-), and can't check it out myself yet). It doesn't sound unintended to me, as in garbled audio or system struggle audio artifact.
Is this something new, or an existing game sound mechanic?
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Impact on the Type 9's shields would be only meters from the Bridge
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Right, I forgot about the shields.
Back On Topic: Another hint to solve this Mystery would be damn helpfull. Braben stated that we "where close once" to solve this puzzle. It would be cool to know if he was referring to a location, cause the Morse-Code which spells the "Real" Name of the nearest Celestial Object is maybe more functional than we might think.
IMHO there is no trigger other than the location, I can't think of a method (speacial interaction or commodity) that could trigger the UA.
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The thing about the chittering morse is that it is not distinguished as highs/lows/meeps/moops, only signal length/duration masked with pitch changes to obscure it from plain sight. In the first picture in my post you can roughly draw a sinusoidal curve through the chittering part and see that the morse follows.
Categorising them as either high or low pitch would be almost completely subjective as they are not uniform.
But but but.... I can hear distinct lows and highs. I'm really not sure how this should show on a visual representation, but it's certainly audible, and for me it's 2 broad categories.
Edit: uh, the morse is defo highs and lows. "Have you tried listening to it?"
Mike Juliett Kilo made a brilliant cleanup of "bast", it's here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kie9nr0d0v58l86/morsey.mp3?dl=0Edit2: right, highs and lows are not the distinguishing factor.
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