Today evening Ratking15 is planning new test with 12 "SAP 8" (or more if wished) ...
Only a few hours.
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Today evening Ratking15 is planning new test with 12 "SAP 8" (or more if wished) ...
Only a few hours.
You lost your bet!
Name CMDR Ratkink15 your stake and keep in mind how many big restrictions (gameplay/progress) he (and CMDR Wishblend too) has shoulder for all these tests.
But we know it crashs the server!
Ask him ...And today evening we will have a absolute similar situation
We salute you!
I hope you guys get as much as possible on film. With SAP, without SAP, close up, distance.
We need details now. The Morse code was quite well hidden.
Well pm me or post on the forums your ingame name as well as sending me a friend request and try to be online at the time I gave.
Well how do we do that or recreate what SS1 tried to do? We haven't really been given specifics as to what they did before the jump to right at the point they broke off as the new articale skimmed in enough details in my mind....
Well on the way back me and you had UA's and were slaved so.....already answered really.
Interesting......which ones should I try while doing the test?
I thought I put my streams up on youtube too though one or two didn't get the sounds because twitch.....
Like behind a planet? Would that be dark enough?
CMDR name? Also what clues have FD really given us that we've picked up on? Because I think it's really just been MB's comment of listen to it that we've noticed....
Hmmmmmm fanfare.....I would like to get to that but.....how???
Karrash did say that we are missing something else that was put into the game in 1.2 which might help with the UA but what did come into 1.2 that we haven't tried?? Also Yes I have been though some faluires due to I think connection problems or DOS's
Yep......so......I hope that it doesn't happen with the test really....You lost your bet!
Name CMDR Ratkink15 your stake and keep in mind how many big restrictions (gameplay/progress) he (and CMDR Wishblend too) has shoulder for all these tests.
But we know it crashs the server!
And today evening we will have a absolute similar situation
We salute you!
What should I be testing for and how? Because I'm going to make a list and it sounds like a lot needs doing....suddenly......it's like a lot of stuff wasn't being said until it was time for me to do one test......are you guys sneak attacking me?
I was daydreaming about the UA research and thought I'd try going back to first principles.
The UA appeared with the 1.2 update.
We also got Hafnium 178, Painite, AI Relics, Antiquities, and Military Intelligence in the same update.
From what we can tell, the UA is either a sensor, a scanner, a beacon or an engine. The design would make it appear alien in origin, but it repeats nearby celestial objects with their english name in Morse code.
What is Painite?
An incredibly rare borate mineral that appears as orthorhombic crystals (hexagonal cross-section).
What is Hafnium 178?
Is a nuclear isomer with the potential to unleash enormous quantities of gamma radiation. What Googling Hf178 shows (and isn't in the object description) is that the gamma radiation is coherent, ie. it has a sharply defined frequency.
SAP8 Core Containers showed up later.
There is now a mission for Elite explorers called "Obfuscation On The Outer Rim" where we discover some crystals of unknown origin could hold galactic coordinates, like a map. We are also introduced to The Dark Wheel providing them for study.
Why is Painite so sought after? It fetches prices in excess of 36KCr/t which is WAY above what an ordinary mineral should cost.
I suggest that Painite is the material of the unknown map crystals.
I suggest these "encoded" crystals are the crystals stored inside SAP8 Core Containers.
So we have the following...
Unknown Artefact - FSD/engine?
Hafnium 178 - energy source?
SAP8 Core Container - map?
Painite might fit in here as well. Remember the bit about borate? Boron is used as a neutron moderator in nuclear fission reactors. It might slow the reaction down from running away with itself.
That's my reasoning. Now for the experiment proposal.
We need someone to carry an Unknown Artefect, Hafnium 178, SAP8 Core Container and Painite in their hold at the same time. Note any change in effects (damage rate for example).
Then eject all 4 items into space so they are in close proximity to each other and note any changes.
My thinking is that the Hafnium 178 is the energy source or "fuel", the UA is the "engine", the SAP8 Core Container is the "map", and Painite would be the "brakes".
We've tried UA in combination with the individual items before, but not with all of them at the same time.
The UA appeared with the 1.2 update.
We also got Hafnium 178, Painite, AI Relics, Antiquities, and Military Intelligence in the same update.
From what we can tell, the UA is either a sensor, a scanner, a beacon or an engine. The design would make it appear alien in origin, but it repeats nearby celestial objects with their english name in Morse code.
What is Painite?
An incredibly rare borate mineral that appears as orthorhombic crystals (hexagonal cross-section).
What is Hafnium 178?
Is a nuclear isomer with the potential to unleash enormous quantities of gamma radiation. What Googling Hf178 shows (and isn't in the object description) is that the gamma radiation is coherent, ie. it has a sharply defined frequency.
SAP8 Core Containers showed up later.
There is now a mission for Elite explorers called "Obfuscation On The Outer Rim" where we discover some crystals of unknown origin could hold galactic coordinates, like a map. We are also introduced to The Dark Wheel providing them for study.
Why is Painite so sought after? It fetches prices in excess of 36KCr/t which is WAY above what an ordinary mineral should cost.
I suggest that Painite is the material of the unknown map crystals.
I suggest these "encoded" crystals are the crystals stored inside SAP8 Core Containers.
So we have the following...
Unknown Artefact - FSD/engine?
Hafnium 178 - energy source?
SAP8 Core Container - map?
Painite might fit in here as well. Remember the bit about borate? Boron is used as a neutron moderator in nuclear fission reactors. It might slow the reaction down from running away with itself.
That's my reasoning. Now for the experiment proposal.
We need someone to carry an Unknown Artefect, Hafnium 178, SAP8 Core Container and Painite in their hold at the same time. Note any change in effects (damage rate for example).
Then eject all 4 items into space so they are in close proximity to each other and note any changes.
My thinking is that the Hafnium 178 is the energy source or "fuel", the UA is the "engine", the SAP8 Core Container is the "map", and Painite would be the "brakes".
We've tried UA in combination with the individual items before, but not with all of them at the same time.
After fiddling a bit around with the irregularities i came to the idea that they could very well be dots or delimeters. The numbers i get are for example this:
143.1263 (X or Y)
68.53 or 3.2873 or 68.870 (Y or Z)
97.2853 (Z or X)
But to be true, the second number sequence is not really that clear. The delimeters could be everywhere.
But i think its worth a look at the map. Since im back late this evening and can't get earlier to my gaming pc i would like to ask if someone is willing to take a look at the map where this coordinates are pointing to?
Welp I have all on that list except Painite........because it was tested with the UA already.......though I don't know if anyone has found Painite in a while....
Yep though I'm not really in the position to go mining and I still need to make a list once people confirm what they are suggesting with the tests so I don't do it incorrectly...
I'm doing the mining CG at Abres, and picking up tonnes of the stuff as a by-product of Osmium mining.
Where are you going to be Ratking15? I'll ferry it down to you today/tonight.
I only have 2 cargo space left right now and before the test would be nice I guess since it won't need me to be online for a while just 5 mins really.
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One suggestion for another test: Writing in direct chat (possibly with the UA targeted). Instead of the commands mentioned above, simply answer it.
What do you do when you try to learn to communicate with someone you don't understand. You repeat what he says. Now we figured out there is morse code. Maybe let's repeat what it "says", either in morse (0-1 ?) or in plain text.
What do you do when you try to learn to communicate with someone you don't understand. You repeat what he says. Now we figured out there is morse code. Maybe let's repeat what it "says", either in morse (0-1 ?) or in plain text.
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Was mentioned earlier that we have few UAs and lots of ideas.
On the basis that an SSS is a private instance when you drop from SC have we tried 'properly' farming them? A wing of 4 goes to one of the locations where there is a chance of the SSS spawning. At which point all 4 drop the wing and enter into the SSS as individual players.
If this is the case with an SSS it increase the chance per 'run' but also means that if you do find a UA you have 3 other players with you to run tests; never know, might get lucky and find two UAs in one session.
On the basis that an SSS is a private instance when you drop from SC have we tried 'properly' farming them? A wing of 4 goes to one of the locations where there is a chance of the SSS spawning. At which point all 4 drop the wing and enter into the SSS as individual players.
If this is the case with an SSS it increase the chance per 'run' but also means that if you do find a UA you have 3 other players with you to run tests; never know, might get lucky and find two UAs in one session.
Behind a planet with no ship lights would be perfect. When looking for visual/light details, I often find it difficult to separate between emitted light and reflections.
Sorry, I was under the impression that you weren't going alone tonight. I thought it would have been smart to have several angles and distances form the same test. There are quite a few theories about at the moment. Both visual and audio.
Fly safe.
Okay well because of stations and outposts needing usually to be around a planet that's sorted also I know I may not be alone tonight but even if I was or anyone who previously had a UA were I think we would still do the tests.......which is why I'm asking for a list of tests to be done up on the wiki or here but made obivious so I can tab in and out quickly or easily write it down......
PS you haven't explained what you want doing in the test yet really (in my head)
Hi, my CMDR name is Sam the Destroyer, happy to help with videoing etc.
As the guys mentioned above you guys have given up a lot of time etc researching this and it is appreciated.
The only clue that I think we need to combine items is FD saying that if they give us anymore clues it would make it too obvious, so I think all the flashing lights etc might be too complicated. Also the UA degrading your ship makes it difficult to get items together so makes it a team work community type effort.
Also you guys are mentioning a server crash? Was this directly linked to doing any thing with the UA or other items? A crash might suggest the use of some rarely used or new (not well tested) code being accessed.
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Not able to check, but the coordinates look sensible. The first set (ordered X,Y,Z) should be in the outer region about 70? ly up and right from Lave.
OKay send me a friend request ingame though........the destroyer part........anyway yes so far the stuff I've gotten has been from other players as I've just stayed holed up somewhere safe and the sever crash was last week around the same time as this test but everyone online at the time was getting it so I think it was a DDOS attack on frontier.
I just want to see the different lights in detail, to determine whats actually emitting the various colours.
Wishblend made a lot of recordings of the purple and green pulses, but we don't even know where on the UA they emit from.
I think we have to pay the same amount of attention to detail on the visuals as we did on the sounds.
I would never in a hundred years have found the Morse in the chittering. It was to faint for me to notice. Still someone found it.
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