that would be depressing, i hate making kids sad
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We have very few kids here thankfully (I wouldn't call this a kid friendly enviornent anymore), I just think even for adults it's just unhealthy and problematic to act so unempathic.
I don't like the inclusion of some animals in the game, but it gives nothing to me to insult others on a personal level for their wish of it's inclusion.
There is just such a huge difference between stating your opinion and wishes vs. calling others cry baby because they aren't happy with this years animal choice or calling someone inferior because they like species X.
Monkey enjoyers being forgotten about for 3 years
Absolutely
Whatever people's ages, you never know how vulnerable someone might be or what kind of a day they're having.
Calling people names doesn't strengthen the argument, it just makes you sound unkind. Name calling is bullying.
A bit of banter is okay if its clearly being reciprocated and taken well, but people have different levels of sensitivities and also, teasing doesn't always translate very well across languages/cultures. Esp online where you can't see how serious someone is being.
People can want whatever animals they want. Wanting one kind of animal over another doesn't make you better than anyone, lol?!?! And it isn't funny either, so I don't get the intention at all. It's really lame behaviour.
Yeah I know we're much better here than other online places but that's a good thing - let's keep it that way and make it a friendly place for everybody.
@Orkan said it best: canid lovers = waterfowl lovers etc etc.
Whining goes both ways.
Sure its not nice to bash someones taste over and over again but at the same time whining over the fact that people dont want your favorite animal in the game for valid reasons over and over again pretty much invites it.
Love it or hate it, but when an animal doesnt make it in the pack it just did not make it, no reason to whine about it all the time and let it get to you.
Appreciate what you got instead of focus on what your missing and if we are talking canids we got a great and ballanced selection of 9 canids with 3 for every continent, with only 1 in south america and australia even having a secound and everywhere having both a large and small canid.
Canid selection is awesome, especally when compared to lets say monkeys, birds, rodents, reptiles or mustelids, which all are still lacking key member or general diversity and the last year gave us atleast one for all of them that was very high quality and wanted, which was great!
Canids dont need this attention anymore and took a backseat, which for all intent and purposes is what should happen, other animal groups need the focus with the best example this year being the pigs that went from meh to great representation!
I hope next year does the same and that it stays this way and im sure we can all agree that its the right direction to go
Sure its not nice to bash someones taste over and over again but at the same time whining over the fact that people dont want your favorite animal in the game for valid reasons over and over again pretty much invites it.
Love it or hate it, but when an animal doesnt make it in the pack it just did not make it, no reason to whine about it all the time and let it get to you.
Appreciate what you got instead of focus on what your missing and if we are talking canids we got a great and ballanced selection of 9 canids with 3 for every continent, with only 1 in south america and australia even having a secound and everywhere having both a large and small canid.
Canid selection is awesome, especally when compared to lets say monkeys, birds, rodents, reptiles or mustelids, which all are still lacking key member or general diversity and the last year gave us atleast one for all of them that was very high quality and wanted, which was great!
Canids dont need this attention anymore and took a backseat, which for all intent and purposes is what should happen, other animal groups need the focus with the best example this year being the pigs that went from meh to great representation!
I hope next year does the same and that it stays this way and im sure we can all agree that its the right direction to go
It’s honestly just variety in my opinion. It’s cool to have a white tiger for example. And just because there are different colors, that doesn’t mean that a conservation group can’t have them
Im not talking about colorvariations, those are perfectly fine. I mean stuff like albinos, melanism and so on
There are probably plenty of conservation focused facilities with black jaguars for example. A genetic mutation doesn’t necessarily take away from the conservation aspect, at least that’s what I think.
I agree to some degree. I think their presence would have been excused, if they had a management function attached to them in Franchise.
Like white tigers might bring in more guests but they will have a negative effect on your educational value or something like that.
Then you could still use them as you like in Sandbox.
But yes, I don't like they just get implemented like a cool thing. If at least the Zoopedia had a note about the negative consequences in real life or something.
Black panther are kinda an exeption here since they occur naturaly so often.
But for stuff like black rhinos something like albinism has negative conservational value, you cant release them to the wild for multiple reasons like health problems and an even bigger target on their head for poachers, and therefor breeding with them isnt something you want to do either. Which essentially makes them dead weight in any breeding project. So they are essentiall reduced to zoo attractions which really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and kinda reminds me of those freak shows with albino people back in the day.
Just my opinion ofcourse, and since its a game it doesnt really matter all that much anyways
I see your point now. Yeah, I like the color variations, and yeah, they aren’t ideal IRL, but at the end of the day it’s just a game. Besides, it’s always interesting to have a little pop of color sometimes, a little uniqueness. It makes sense why we have variants in PZ in the first place, because yes, they can happen IRL.
Yeah true. It just feels like they are portrait as something desirable and sought after in the community and by frontier when in reality they are the opposite
1: I Would enjoy Saiga, Leopard Seal, Shoebill and Proboscis MOnkeys WAY more than realistic animal choices like Gibbons ect.
2: I would rather uninstall the game than receive a child-petting zoo expansion with farm animals, this isn't planet farm.
3: I wouldn't care for more primates at all, spare for the Aye-Aye, Howler Monkey and Gelada, after that I wouldn't want any more primates.
4: I would not pay for an expansion pack in which we got African Leopards, Asian Lion or European Brown Bears/Wolves, EVEN if it had my favorite animals in it with them.
5: I wouldn't mind more felines and canines at all, would take 10.000.000 types of felines and canines over 1 European Brown Bear.
6: I don't care for aquarium/flying bird expansions, rather see an entire expansion with normal habitat birds like the Secretary Bird.
7: Realism is a nuisance. I'm glad frontier ignores it.
8: I wouldn't mind getting only 8 animal packs from now on.
9: Seeing so many people liking it, my two very worst expansion packs are: Twilight and Arctic.
10: Eurasian Brown bears are the worst animal wishes I've ever seen.
11: Pronghorn are the reason I don't want a Planet Zoo 2 game, I'm sure Planet Zoo 2 will delete Pronghorn from the list, and NONE of you folks will EVER wish for the Pronghorn to be in the game again. SO I don't want support to end because part 2 will NEVER get a pronghorn.
12: Pronghorn is the best animal in the base game, the most surprising as well, people that don't like it are weird.
2: I would rather uninstall the game than receive a child-petting zoo expansion with farm animals, this isn't planet farm.
3: I wouldn't care for more primates at all, spare for the Aye-Aye, Howler Monkey and Gelada, after that I wouldn't want any more primates.
4: I would not pay for an expansion pack in which we got African Leopards, Asian Lion or European Brown Bears/Wolves, EVEN if it had my favorite animals in it with them.
5: I wouldn't mind more felines and canines at all, would take 10.000.000 types of felines and canines over 1 European Brown Bear.
6: I don't care for aquarium/flying bird expansions, rather see an entire expansion with normal habitat birds like the Secretary Bird.
7: Realism is a nuisance. I'm glad frontier ignores it.
8: I wouldn't mind getting only 8 animal packs from now on.
9: Seeing so many people liking it, my two very worst expansion packs are: Twilight and Arctic.
10: Eurasian Brown bears are the worst animal wishes I've ever seen.
11: Pronghorn are the reason I don't want a Planet Zoo 2 game, I'm sure Planet Zoo 2 will delete Pronghorn from the list, and NONE of you folks will EVER wish for the Pronghorn to be in the game again. SO I don't want support to end because part 2 will NEVER get a pronghorn.
12: Pronghorn is the best animal in the base game, the most surprising as well, people that don't like it are weird.
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It bugs me too, I was about disappointed when I saw the albino wolverine. I think most of the Albino animals are ugly and I don't like using them at all
When it comes to albino and exotic skins I really don’t pay attention to it that much because it’s a game, so what if frontier decides to add them even if they are against conservation, I think they added them because they knew it would be something people wanted in a free update if we didn’t have them already. It’s a cool feature, plain and simple (imo).
I do think a couple are unnecessary though, like the tiger variants which are so rarely found compared to more important variants like the Przewalski’s horse which we still don’t have.
I do think a couple are unnecessary though, like the tiger variants which are so rarely found compared to more important variants like the Przewalski’s horse which we still don’t have.
I'll always remain with the realistic looking variants for my zoos, i just want to see animals that can be found at a zoo. I find the inclusion of all these fancy rare variants quite useless and a waste of development time but I can't argue with the approach frontier goes with - deep down its still a game with casual players who love collecting rare animals for the enjoyment factor.
I think it would be better if rare Color Morphs couldn't be released to the Wild (with a few Exceptions like melanistic Jaguars and Leopards which can even benefit from it, depending on the Environment).
Also if a Color Morph has Health Problems in Real Life, it should have it in the Game too (for Example Albino Animals having a huge Risk to get Skin Cancer if they are exposed to the Sun too much).
Also some of them should probably be rebalanced. It works exactly as it should for Stuff like Peafowl and Big Cat Color Morphs but none of Snowflakes Descendants were white, so it shouldn't be that easy to breed Albino Animals
Also if a Color Morph has Health Problems in Real Life, it should have it in the Game too (for Example Albino Animals having a huge Risk to get Skin Cancer if they are exposed to the Sun too much).
Also some of them should probably be rebalanced. It works exactly as it should for Stuff like Peafowl and Big Cat Color Morphs but none of Snowflakes Descendants were white, so it shouldn't be that easy to breed Albino Animals
They clearly don't, or else we'd have unicorns and T. rex.
Bat-eared and fennec foxes are both pretty common in North America. No idea where you got this from but ZTL is not at all a good resource for the US and Canada.