ungulate fans being outraged and dumbfounded when people arent overjoyed that another pack is being dedicated to them
A majority of this community is on the older side there are probably a few people here who are younger everyone here is at least on the older side of being a teenager.
I agree they should be focusing on more natural colourations rather than genetic mutations which inevitably makes them look desirable which is against the conservation message. We are still missing so many natural variations especially among the canid family it seems like frontier heard we want colour morphs and decided to add albinism to everything even if its unrealistic like why do we have a leucitic swam it looks almost identical to the regular swam.
I really do not think that making a color variant needs that effort which leads to the exclusion of another species. So it is Just a nice give away for people who want to Play with them. Everyone else must Not use it. And yes, it is a Game and we are within the Entertainment industry and not at National Graphic simulator to say a bit exxagerated.
That...isn't how it works. If Frontier is putting more ungulates into the game it's because it's simply more resource efficient. It has nothing to do with choosing ungulates over dogs or whatever.
I agree they are more resource efficient to make but another canid or feline probably would be just as efficient hence why these are the most represented groups in game. To say that we have so many ungulates because its more efficient and that this has no bearing on the rest of the roster is wrong because there are plenty of other animals that are a quick reskin and would be just as easy if not easier to add than an ungulate but they chose to do more ungulates over them.
I'm going to politely disagree they can still add the african leopard, serval, pallas, ocelot and fishing cat but haven't yet. Just like they could add the coyote and jackal for canids but just haven't yet even though they have the rigs for them and can very easily tweak the animations in their engine. We really get hit over the head with ungulates as the packs don't have a dedicated pattern for species. The only time I'm genuinely excited anymore is when a pack isn't ungulate heavy like oceania. Even the wetlands pack, a pack that should have been more skewed to birds and reptiles had an ungulate. They're biased.
Your "bias" is called looking at a real zoo and realising that if you cut out birds, monkeys and vivarium over half the remaining animals will be ungulates.
your bias is thinking that this matches all zoos the zoos around me have no more than 5 ungulate species each this is not representative of every zoo. Also there is absolutely no reason to cut out monkeys so why did you exclude them. Ungulates may represent a large portion of what is in zoos but if they were truly keeping to reality we would be drowning in various domestic animals.
Fair not all zoos but the vast vast majority of zoos outside australia.
I do agree we need at least some petting zoo animals and im not saying we dont need more ungulates but when you have more bovids than you do total habitat birds and reptiles combined there is a balancing problem. If frontier wants to keep this game alive they need to stop flooding every pack with ungulates 1 or 2 per pack is fine the people who want them can have them but the last 2 animal packs have had half their roster as ungulates people are tired of it hence the negative reactions to all the ungulates in both arid and eurasia.
I do disagree with you about the 'balance'. If you look at real zoo's, you'll see that on zoo maps etc the animals that are named/labeled are often the big animals, like many ungulates and others. There are rarely big 'reptiles' or big 'bird' names on zoo maps and how people talk about animals. Many of those reptiles and birds are often used as filler animals and hidden away in small aviaries or terrarium or used as 'mixed' species without any info sign on them. They wouldn't work for Planet Zoo as it is now and if we get a lot of exhibit animals, people will complain as well.
I think habitat reptiles are whats meant in the post.
You act as if birds and reptiles are never put on the zoo maps crocodilians and larger tortoises almost always make the map when they are in a zoo same with bigger birds especially the ratites and stilted water birds. I never said anything about small birds or reptiles by the way you just made that up. Also my problem isnt that ungulates arent popular in zoos because they are no questioning that. My problem is that almost every pack has been so heavily geared towards ungulates that every other group (excluding carnivora which has its own issues) of animals has suffered I am simply asking for less hooves in every pack and give the other animals a place.
I understand that it's mostly about habitat reptiles, but there aren't that many that really need to be a habitat addition, beside another giant tortoise, another kind of monitor or perhaps another crocodilian. The group of ungulates look way more diverse for the zoo than another animal with a minor niche difference.
I think both are a problem carnivorans not so much because of the range of uses from seals to arboreal felines but I think both need to take a back seat when it comes to the next packs
you clearly havent been engaging with the community outside of the forums the community at large doesnt want more ungulates go to any social media post and you will see what people want remove flying birds and aquatics and still its not ungulates peoples biggest wants are monkeys and habitat birds.
Argentine tegu, any smallsih medium size tortoise, large aquatic turtles like giant asian pond turtle, rhinoceros iguana are all very different from every we have so far and would be perfect habitat additions
As much as I'd love an entire pack, it would be a good compromise. A domestic Goat and cow like say the african Dwarf Goat and highland cow would be enough to satisfy my desire for a petting zoo roster.
