Given that we really dont have any petting zoo suitable animals (beside the camels who are a strech) i think a dedicated pack is very much needed
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If birds are on a map, it's indeed the animals we already have, or just a general 'aviaries' label, same for the reptiles. Unless it's a specialized reptile zoo or bird zoo (like one of my favorites zoo's is, I'm a huge bird lover) they aren't really on the zoo map or again, what people talk about. If you ask the visitors that leave the zoo what there favorite or most memorable animal is, how many people do you think will say "Oooh I loved the Rhinoceros Iguana" or "Man that Cuban Crocodile is so rare, I'm so happy I got to see it!" I think most of the animals the common zoo visitor will name are animals already in the game...
And yes, I added small animals because the majority of birds and reptiles, are small and will end up being an exhibit animal if they get added.
Just to be clear: I have nothing against the birds and reptiles, I really welcome any animal and I would love more habitat birds especially (check my wishlist if you don't believe it) I am just trying to show why I think Frontier decides on those animals and what different way of perceiving/choosing an animal they will use than we do. I think it's not fair to attack me personally while I try to be polite and nice ('You clearly aren't engaging', 'You act..' etc. is very finger-pointing to me and make your post feel way more aggressive than they should be, try to avoid using 'you' to counter argument and the world would be much much kinder).
As for the Children's Zoo pack, I think that will only work as an animal pack with the free update containing some 'mechanics' for how the Petting Zoo would work. That way they can add more Child-popular animals that aren't just Petting Zoo animals.
Honestley I would rather get a dedicated scenery pack release all the domestic energy at once we do definitely need it though its one of the bigger holes in the games roster.
This exact thing could be said about ungulates too how many people are going around saying that dama gazelle was neat like no one. Also some of the most common birds I see on habitat labels are cranes which we have one of so no we do not have all the animals that are commonly labelled.
I do think you missing my point how many ungulates do you think a casual zoo goer can name I can guarantee we have more than that already its not that ungulates arent important its that we have all the important ones. Also my biggest problem with ungulates is that the dont offer habitat variety. Every ungulate now doesnt really provide much for building niches anymore. They all feel the same to build for build the same since they all have fairly similar movement patterns. The only thing adding more ungulates does is allow for better continental distribution the habitat you build for a wisent will be the same as an american bison just different plants and theming. Caprines are the acceptation to this yet we barely have any of those.
We need animals that fill the biggest possible niche. Lets say someone wanted to build a zoo they get ready to build and go I want to build a desert inspired reptile habitat they cant because we dont have any non exhibit desert reptiles. lets say someone is building a zoo set in the americas and the go I want to build a water bird habitat they cant because there is no bird in the americas. This is my problem because if someone wanted to build even something as specific as an african, grasslands, antelope habitat they still have multiple options irrespective of how common animals are in zoos and how many are normally in a collection ungulates are stifling peoples ability to build creative habitats we need more animals that feel unique to build and that add most to the game we dont need whats common we need what will impact the game the most.
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Wait which ones do we have? Cape Buffalo, American Bison, Water Buffalo, Wisent, am I missing one or more?I think though we actually have more Birds and Habitat Reptiles combined than we have Primates
Regarding Bovids: I'd love to see the Gaur in the Game
Still missing a few Habitat Reptiles. I'd love to build a Reptile Zoo but it would probably be finished way too fast
Fly River Turtle would also be awesome and another Softshell Turtle.
Also Green Sea Turtle if we should ever get a Aquarium Pack besides the Aquatic Pack
Exactly. Always so disappointed when I want to build a Petting Zoo. Wow, Llama. Great. Where's the Rest? We don't even have a domesticated Goat or Vietnamese Pot bellied Pig
Only the Llama. The other two Camels are too dangerous
We need at LEAST four more Children’s Zoo animals, so a dedicated scenery pack would be the bare minimum really.
• Dutch Rabbit
• African Dwarf Goat
• Common Mallard
• Scottish Highland Cow
These, paired with the Llama and Mute Swan, could allow for some interesting and varied barnyard areas.
• Dutch Rabbit
• African Dwarf Goat
• Common Mallard
• Scottish Highland Cow
These, paired with the Llama and Mute Swan, could allow for some interesting and varied barnyard areas.
I think I would love to see an addition of a Dwarf Zebu cattle, Guinea Fowl or some kind of budgies/finches WE
Dwarf Zebu’s cute, but at the expense of the Highland Cattle, I’d be distraught. Budgies in the WE is a great call though
bovids refers to anything in the bovinae family which is more than just typical bovine here is the list. 18 animals vs the 17 reptiles+birds
I think though we actually have more Birds and Habitat Reptiles combined than we have Primates
Regarding Bovids: I'd love to see the Gaur in the Game
- alpine ibex
- nyala
- blue wildebeest
- black wildebeest
- thomsons gazelle
- sable antelope
- african buffalo
- american bison
- wisent
- dall sheep
- dama gazelle
- addax
- scimtar horned oryx
- gemsbok
- nile lechwe
- wild water buffalo
- springbok
- takin
The kangaroo is a a sort of petting zoo animal as well have been to multiple zoos where you can pet and feed them I dont think it was ever the red kangaroo though only the eastern grey.
If we go by that logic, i have fed and or pet half the european fauna in the game, still calling a wisent, boar or red deer a petting zoo animal feels pretty wrong
hence why I specified it was a different species though honestly if the grays can be fed the red kangaroos should be fine.
No no you get me wrong, ive fed and pet those 3 animals before (wisents have super fluffy foreheads btw) but just cause you can pet something doesnt mean it belongs in a petting zoo. Giraffe incounters are also a rather common thing where you can pet and feed a giraffe, but still i dont see anyone saying that they are petting zoo animals
oh yeah red that wrong now I get what you mean its why I said sort of the line between animals you can pet and petting zoo animals is pretty hard to define
I could say the same for anything at this point. Imagine needed a secretary bird and we got three gazelle in one pack, imagine needing a secretary bird and people are asking for more deer, imagine needing a secretary bird and people are demanding more monkeys. Imagine needing a secretary bird but people are saying a South America dlc is the most important.
While I understand you may not personally care for realism ( I think you mentioned that in this thread, I could be mistaken though) I do care, at least a little. You may not care for it, but petting zoos are a part of the zoo experience. For people with young children and family it can actually be very memorable. I’m not saying I need an entire roster like it’s farming simulator, just one or two will do it for me. Scottish highland cow would be great European representation, and they ar very popular on social media. A goat is like the #1 petting zoo animal so that would be fine with me.
As for a rabbit and duck, waterfowl are super common in zoos so yeah I would love a duck. Also we have no lagomorphs in game so a rabbit will be nice. I know some people want an arctic hare but:
Unpopular opinion - I would rather have a domestic rabbit over a wild one. I’ve never seen a wild rabbit housed in zoos. Also a duck either mandarin or mallard is very needed.
I can't remember any zoo with a petting zoo inside them in Europe. They mostly are called Boerderij/Farms.
Never been a fan of "food/product/pet" animals created by/and for mankind to eat and use.
Also I wouldn't mind a antelope pack being brought out before the Secretary Bird though, I would NOT touch and buy a petting zoo pack, wasted space entirely for me.
Never been a fan of "food/product/pet" animals created by/and for mankind to eat and use.
Also I wouldn't mind a antelope pack being brought out before the Secretary Bird though, I would NOT touch and buy a petting zoo pack, wasted space entirely for me.
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Don't worry the GNSM will come. Is inevitable.
I cant remember any zoo without one lol
Maybe I find them SOOO boring I have ignored them in my mind. But I don't think the dutch zoo's have petting zoo's, a farm is never far away if you want to take your children to product animals, or you could just buy them in store.
This is more of a country divide, some do some don't. Like i don't remember encountering one in the uk apart from small non accredited farm petting zoos, but across my travels in the usa, basically every single zoo had a petting zoo/domestic area.