Unpopular Pack that You Would Buy

lol this forum dislikes shoebills and LOVES wisents and boring herrons... So bizarre.

The shoebill, Cassowary and Lyrebird were the first three birds I ever saw back in old animal books, and they will always be three of the most special ones to me, I see herrons at my ponds every day, mostly killing cute small ducklings

I want pelicans, scarlet ibis, secretary birds, shoebills and golden pheasants all the same, but herrons!? No thank you.
 
lol this forum dislikes shoebills and LOVES wisents and boring herrons... So bizarre.
Yes... you keep saying this, I'm not sure what your point is saying this. I love seeing herons in real life not at zoos but in the wild where i can see them catching fish by the coast, one of my favourite wading birds. Not every animal we want is from animal books, old zoo games or how weird or unique animals may seem.
 
lol this forum dislikes shoebills and LOVES wisents and boring herrons... So bizarre.

The shoebill, Cassowary and Lyrebird were the first three birds I ever saw back in old animal books, and they will always be three of the most special ones to me, I see herrons at my ponds every day, mostly killing cute small ducklings

I want pelicans, scarlet ibis, secretary birds, shoebills and golden pheasants all the same, but herrons!? No thank you.
You’ve never said that before
 
lol this forum dislikes shoebills and LOVES wisents and boring herrons... So bizarre.
People like the Wisent because it is the icon of Europe and has an amazing historical conservation story, and it serves as an upgrade to the American bison, just like the wildebeest. Getting the wisent for Europe is like getting the beaver or moose for NA, Jaguar for SA, Kangaroo for Australia, etc. It’s the continental mascot of Europe. Also probably why it’s the headliner of the Eurasia pack.

Also idk why you think herons are boring, they are beautiful species of waterfowl but ok.
 
I’m from Europe, but dislike most European animals. They look and behave generic and always have more exotic more interesting versions/family running around in non European countries. I think the Bison is much better looking than the wisent, which looks like a domesticated bison to me.

For wild boars you have RR hogs, Babirusa and warthogs
For Ibex you have Markhor
For European Bears you have Spectacles, Sun, Polar, Grizzly, Sloth and Pandas
For Herrons you have Silver Herrons
Storks? Give me Shoebill and Marabou
Ducks? Mandarin and Torrent
Swans? I prefer them black or black necked
Fox and Wolf? Give me Gray Fix, Maned Wolf and Fennec please
Cats? Every thing from Asia, S-America and Africa above the European cats
Badger? I like them with honey

Hoopoo?! Yes, you can stay, together with the Chamois, Wolverine, Moose and Snowy Owls
 
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But mocking the Shoebill DOES make people look good? It's a mirror.
Me saying the shoebill isn't appealing because it looks creepy is not mocking your animal choices, that's my personal opinion. I don’t have to like an animal someone suggests. You constantly saying 'this forum hates this but likes that lol' is mocking certain people's favourite animals.
 
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I dont care about realism in a nutshell, what i care for is how usefull an animal is.
I dont care about how much i subjectivly like or dislike an animal irl or how they look aslong as they can be differentiated from other animals allready in game on a glance.

If you want to convince me on an animal, show me its range, tell me its biomes, what makes it special regarding its gameplay niche and what history it has to being kept.

The range and biomes determin how flexible and therefor usefull it is for thematic areas and general representation.
Yoavs ranking the areas thread is a good point of reference here, if the animal appears in 3 or more areas or atleast one in yellow or lower, thats a win.

Next is what sets them apart from other animals gameplay wise, their niche, be it game or area wide something like the swan being the games first waterfowl but the black swan being australias first while also looking distinct.

Lastly their history in captivity and/or how iconic they are as an actual zoo animal, be it by being extremly common, generally iconic even if quite rare like the panda or play an important role in a specific region like the golden snub nose monkey in china or the tassie devil in australia.

And if the animal checks out in 2 out of 3 categorys nice im interested, now just hope that there isnt on that can fill the same niche and actually be present in all 3, which most likly does exist.

For example the wood duck scores a clean 3 out of 3, buuuut the mallard does the same with tripple the range so theres a clear objective mallard > wood duck.

But some animals like for example the saiga are such unique creatures that theres no better stand in, so i dont care that it is rare in captivity cause who else is suppoused to fill that role of representing the central asian steppe? Theres no other animal thats not in the game thats more iconic to the area and comes even close to the saiga, so i can happily ignore that they are rare in captivity as theres no better alternative thats more common
I agree with almost everything you said here except you failed to bring up notoriety because yes visual difference, range and biome differences all help to create usability and are many of the same qualities I look for in an animals I think would be a good fit for the game. This just doesnt stop some animals being popular for other reason such as becoming a meme animal, nostalgia from past zoo games or presence in media which is all important when considering the best choice of animals for the games continued popularity.

I am firmly team anti shoebill there are so many more colourful and useful waterbirds out there personally hoping for the brolga or a pelican but I understand why its popular in speculation because it became a meme animal due to its looks and sounds. This is why even though I personally dont what it I think its likely to appear because it already has a name for itself.
 
I dont care about realism in a nutshell, what i care for is how usefull an animal is.
I dont care about how much i subjectivly like or dislike an animal irl or how they look aslong as they can be differentiated from other animals allready in game on a glance.

If you want to convince me on an animal, show me its range, tell me its biomes, what makes it special regarding its gameplay niche and what history it has to being kept.

The range and biomes determin how flexible and therefor usefull it is for thematic areas and general representation.
Yoavs ranking the areas thread is a good point of reference here, if the animal appears in 3 or more areas or atleast one in yellow or lower, thats a win.

Next is what sets them apart from other animals gameplay wise, their niche, be it game or area wide something like the swan being the games first waterfowl but the black swan being australias first while also looking distinct.

Lastly their history in captivity and/or how iconic they are as an actual zoo animal, be it by being extremly common, generally iconic even if quite rare like the panda or play an important role in a specific region like the golden snub nose monkey in china or the tassie devil in australia.

And if the animal checks out in 2 out of 3 categorys nice im interested, now just hope that there isnt on that can fill the same niche and actually be present in all 3, which most likly does exist.

For example the wood duck scores a clean 3 out of 3, buuuut the mallard does the same with tripple the range so theres a clear objective mallard > wood duck.

But some animals like for example the saiga are such unique creatures that theres no better stand in, so i dont care that it is rare in captivity cause who else is suppoused to fill that role of representing the central asian steppe? Theres no other animal thats not in the game thats more iconic to the area and comes even close to the saiga, so i can happily ignore that they are rare in captivity as theres no better alternative thats more common
This is peak logic right here
 
Would a reptile pack be unpopular? I would love something like:
  • Nile Crocodile
  • African Spurred Tortoise
  • Perentie
  • Asian Giant Softshell Turtle
  • Helmeted Basilisk (e)

- Reptile House theme (different wall panels, smooth rock walls, heat lamps, etc.).
I mean with that roster it would be pretty great, but why no chameleon or cobra for exhibit instead? Although we are in need for lizards as well.
 
I buy all packs. :D

But if there was a pack with only monkeys, I likely would not buy it . Unless it has tamarins or marmosets.. only for those I would buy it..

For a weird pack, if there was an Australian exhibit only pack I would love it. We need more exhibit reptiles.
 
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