We ALL should protest against FDev while stop playing Elite dangerous!!!

Any mind numbing grind is self imposed.

That's just crap as well. It's a well-known and understood mechanic used by game developers. It's a very real thing, not the spooky boogeyman made up to scare people into thinking they're wrong.

A reasonable amount of grind is fine, if the mechanics around it are sound, and the rewards are well balanced and defined.

In the case of Elite, the rewards need balancing in certain areas much more in favour of the player. And that, is the crux of this whole thing.
 
That's just crap as well. It's a well-known and understood mechanic used by game developers. It's a very real thing, not the spooky boogeyman made up to scare people into thinking they're wrong.

A reasonable amount of grind is fine, if the mechanics around it are sound, and the rewards are well balanced and defined.

In the case of Elite, the rewards need balancing in certain areas much more in favour of the player. And that, is the crux of this whole thing.

You are usually a very reasonable person.
I don't understand how you can NOT see that too fast a progression through the game is a bad thing.
 


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You are usually a very reasonable person.
I don't understand how you can NOT see that too fast a progression through the game is a bad thing.

No-one's asking for a 10-hour unlock for everything, nor 20 nor 30, nor 40 or 50.

There's a post right here on the front page from a lady who endured 6 hours searching for some engineering materials, and not a single one dropped. That's not even RNG. That's just plain broken.

It's things like that that need to be balanced.

The way the Navy ranks unlock now is a good indicator of how things should be. They progress nicely while you just meander about doing your usual business. If you focus on them you can have it done within a weekend easily. That's fine.

Having to wait 3 years (as someone in another thread said, 2-3 years is 'reasonable') before you unlock the Cutter is just mind-boggling.

If someone wants a Cutter, and they want to put the effort in to get one, let them have a Cutter, whether they're green and will instantly drift it sideways into the next station they jump to (they'll learn from that) or if they're a multi-billionaire who wants to make a multicrew-enabled SLF-wielding fuel rat ship because why the hell not.
 
I agree with OP. They should have left it as it was until they had come up with a proper solution. I could have made another 10 billion in the meantime, so I want compensation for my lost income.
 
If guys from FD do have some kind of best of forum threads or posts int their office, this one would be a candidate for winner in best commedy thread category.
 
That's just crap as well. It's a well-known and understood mechanic used by game developers. It's a very real thing, not the spooky boogeyman made up to scare people into thinking they're wrong.

A reasonable amount of grind is fine, if the mechanics around it are sound, and the rewards are well balanced and defined.

In the case of Elite, the rewards need balancing in certain areas much more in favour of the player. And that, is the crux of this whole thing.

Oh dear. The grind is what you bring on yourself. ED is not a traditional "progression" based game were you need to level up to explore the next part of the map/story. We have none of that in ED, so it's all about choice. You choose for goals and you choose how you go about those goals. If you want to grind for those goals, grind away, but don't come on the forums and complain about it, as it has been entirely your own choice.
 
Excellent. Let's drive the new blood away from the game because they don't want to play it your way.

I can't even......

And when they buy a Cutter after 8 hours of playing, then lose it because they don't know ANYTHING about the game, or even if they won't, what are they going to do? I tell you what. They will stop playing, anyway, and instead they will pester the forums for the rest of their miserable lives. The moaning posts about the game being boring and having no content - they are made by people getting to the finish line so quickly they failed to notice there is a game, going on around them.

Oh dear. The grind is what you bring on yourself. ED is not a traditional "progression" based game were you need to level up to explore the next part of the map/story. We have none of that in ED, so it's all about choice. You choose for goals and you choose how you go about those goals. If you want to grind for those goals, grind away, but don't come on the forums and complain about it, as it has been entirely your own choice.

I'm going to stop trying now. Hellakitty is apparently having an off-day.
 
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Oh dear. The grind is what you bring on yourself. ED is not a traditional "progression" based game were you need to level up to explore the next part of the map/story. We have none of that in ED, so it's all about choice. You choose for goals and you choose how you go about those goals. If you want to grind for those goals, grind away, but don't come on the forums and complain about it, as it has been entirely your own choice.

I can honestly appreciate where you're coming from. On the other hand, all that smacks of is 'you either play it my way or not at all'.
 
And when they buy a Cutter after 8 hours of playing, then lose it because they don't know ANYTHING about the game, or even if they won't, what they are going to do? I tell you what. They will stop playing, anyway, and instead they will pester the forums for the rest of their miserable lives. The moaning post about the game being boring and having no content - they are made by people getting to the finish line so quickly they failed to notice there is a game, going on around them.

All the money in the world isn't going to buy the new player a Cutter in eight hours, due to the fact that it's rank locked. Trying to get a Cutter actually just about burned me out from playing and I only made it a third of the way.
 
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