We meed some sort of update for Consoles

[olgrateful]

Probably the same reason as before - it requires some sort of reliable agreement between companies, based on sales of stuff beyond the base game. If they can't agree, or don't want it to happen, then it won't.


Edit - by before, I mean every other time this has been asked.

So everyone else can do it including rocket league (cross save and play) but Fdev alone is hampered by this system? Cmon let’s not give them an out that lousy. We just need cross save.

 

[Sunyavadin]

Probably the same reason as before - it requires some sort of reliable agreement between companies, based on sales of stuff beyond the base game. If they can't agree, or don't want it to happen, then it won't.


Edit - by before, I mean every other time this has been asked.

Crossplay and cross-save are very different things.

Crossplay relies upon actual data being transferred between the two networks, and therefore requires the platform holders' mutual consent.
This is in contrast to say, how the BGS allows interactions between platforms, such as via fleet carriers, where two players chatting on discord on PC and XBox can arrange for one to fly the other to a destination system on their carrier in real time but all the interactions on each side are directly with Frontier's server.

Cross-save is entirely on the game server side, like the BGS. All the players' progression data is stored on Frontier, Bungie, Sega, etc.'s servers, and so it can be enabled as long as you set up your game's servers to be able to accept logins on the same account from any platform. Any game which requires you to register an account with the publisher's servers where your progression is stored, rather than it saving locally on your respective system is capable of this.

In the case of the brief period it worked in ED, it was clearly not set up completely, since it seemed to be just recognising you as logging in to your linked Frontier account as "an XBox user" on PC, hence PC not displaying your cmdr name correctly, presumably due to the backend code not being there (not having been y'know, actually written yet), on the account server for translating that, but the character data aside from the name was persistent since presumably the file format on Frontier's account server is exactly the same for any cmdr on any platform.

 

[Jaguarious]

I'm tired of waiting months between 'updates' that only amount to "Yeah it's delayed indefinitely". We need SOMETHING. Some sort of acknowledgement of the console community as a whole. It's kind of wild to watch them say "Don't worry! Once it's fixed on PC we'll come work on console!" And then they start adding even more features to PC, further isolating us. It's just frustrating is all

How much have you paid for an update?
Are you paying a subscription?
Is the game you have, the game you paid for?


Ok then.
Maybe stop thinking they owe you updates simply because you said so. The game you bought, is still the same game you loved before Odyssey. Just enjoy it - and when the update happens - it'll be worth the wait. ...or not. But at least all the bugs will have been worked out (at other people's expense) and you can enjoy a more polished and worthwhile experience. All thanks to those who have been beta testing it on your behalf for the past 8 months or so.

 

[Jaguarious]

Odyssey on consoles will never happen just like good non-combat gameplay will never happen.

A couple hundred Squadrons and hundreds of thousands of commanders have begged to differ from that bitterness. lol

 

[Bottom Hat]

So everyone else can do it including rocket league (cross save and play) but Fdev alone is hampered by this system? Cmon let’s not give them an out that lousy. We just need cross save.

I don't make the rules, I was answering the post above mine that was baiting for more arguing

Crossplay and cross-save are very different things.

Crossplay relies upon actual data being transferred between the two networks, and therefore requires the platform holders' mutual consent.
This is in contrast to say, how the BGS allows interactions between platforms, such as via fleet carriers, where two players chatting on discord on PC and XBox can arrange for one to fly the other to a destination system on their carrier in real time but all the interactions on each side are directly with Frontier's server.

Cross-save is entirely on the game server side, like the BGS. All the players' progression data is stored on Frontier, Bungie, Sega, etc.'s servers, and so it can be enabled as long as you set up your game's servers to be able to accept logins on the same account from any platform. Any game which requires you to register an account with the publisher's servers where your progression is stored, rather than it saving locally on your respective system is capable of this.

In the case of the brief period it worked in ED, it was clearly not set up completely, since it seemed to be just recognising you as logging in to your linked Frontier account as "an XBox user" on PC, hence PC not displaying your cmdr name correctly, presumably due to the backend code not being there (not having been y'know, actually written yet), on the account server for translating that, but the character data aside from the name was persistent since presumably the file format on Frontier's account server is exactly the same for any cmdr on any platform.

I don't know mate I'm afraid, I not familiar enough with it. Interesting though that this happened.

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

Crossplay and cross-save are very different things.

Crossplay relies upon actual data being transferred between the two networks, and therefore requires the platform holders' mutual consent.
This is in contrast to say, how the BGS allows interactions between platforms, such as via fleet carriers, where two players chatting on discord on PC and XBox can arrange for one to fly the other to a destination system on their carrier in real time but all the interactions on each side are directly with Frontier's server.

Cross-save is entirely on the game server side, like the BGS. All the players' progression data is stored on Frontier, Bungie, Sega, etc.'s servers, and so it can be enabled as long as you set up your game's servers to be able to accept logins on the same account from any platform. Any game which requires you to register an account with the publisher's servers where your progression is stored, rather than it saving locally on your respective system is capable of this.

In the case of the brief period it worked in ED, it was clearly not set up completely, since it seemed to be just recognising you as logging in to your linked Frontier account as "an XBox user" on PC, hence PC not displaying your cmdr name correctly, presumably due to the backend code not being there (not having been y'know, actually written yet), on the account server for translating that, but the character data aside from the name was persistent since presumably the file format on Frontier's account server is exactly the same for any cmdr on any platform.

Bit odd that cross save isn't a thing at all.

Cross play seems to be a pretty standard feature, if Indies like Team 17 and Hello Games including it in thier titles I'm sure the plucky upstarts at Frontier can manage it too. (If they wanted to)

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

Update 10 tomorrow. Contains "a selection of quality fixes for Horizons players on PC and Console" which implies Frontier are starting the year how they ended the last one - with no plans to provide any information about when or even if Odyssey will arrive on console.

Bizarre.

 

[Bottom Hat]

Yup. As they have said.

 

[thistle]

Update 10 tomorrow. Contains "a selection of quality fixes for Horizons players on PC and Console" which implies Frontier are starting the year how they ended the last one - with no plans to provide any information about when or even if Odyssey will arrive on console.

Bizarre.

When a console announcement comes it will undoubtedly be a big standalone moment, not part of a different (already known) update announcement.

 

[varonica]

It's also the definition of lobbying or protesting which, historically, has seen some success.

Usually only for the lobbyist, the rest of the population gets shafted!

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Update 10 tomorrow. Contains "a selection of quality fixes for Horizons players on PC and Console" which implies Frontier are starting the year how they ended the last one - with no plans to provide any information about when or even if Odyssey will arrive on console.

Bizarre.

To be fair to FDev in this instance, it's a little hard to put a timescale on a recovery plan when you're still at the stage of diagnosis.

How long does it take to fix a car engine that's down on power?

 

[Sunyavadin]

Update 10 tomorrow. Contains "a selection of quality fixes for Horizons players on PC and Console"

Like getting rid of the black squares in the UI that were introduced when they started integrating the Odyssey one piecemeal into Horizons? That'd be a nice start.