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I didn't watch Frameshift Live but apparently the new mission variant is for on foot. In fact, that seems to be the case for all gameplay updates. Nothing of interest for me again but I'm sure there's a t least a few tweaks for others.
 
Good morning all,

Haven't been on Elite for a good while, basically since the announcement that consoles are no longer going to be supported. Was a bit conflicted about it (as basically space legs doesn't do anything for me, I'm actually happy not bothering with that part of the game, so could stay as I am!) but now that FD are offering a one-off port of account from console to PC I'm thinking that maybe I should switch from Xbox to PC, even if I don't plan to stand up and leave my cockpit anyway. Some of my squadron have made the same switch and squadron ops on Xbox have basically died overnight. So I'm thinking I take advantage of the account port offer to move across (they're basically offering everything other than carriers, which obviously i could just decommission then buy again on PC). However, one TINY problem - my knowledge of PC computing could be written on the back of a postage stamp. And I am not even talking about one of those large, limited edition Christmas ones. Sad, I know.

So I was wondering, as I know that you are a friendly bunch, and several of you really know your eggs, whether anyone would mind giving me some spec advice. Basically, I have access to a computer with the following spec (below), question is, would it run Elite? If not, then I'd have to buy a new PC, but as I have this one already I'd rather not get a second (and buying a PC purely for one game seems a bit indulgent when people out there have real problems). Please don't laugh - I have zero idea whether this system is miles off what I need or way over the top or somewhere in between. It's just letters on a page to me. I have looked at the spec requirements posted by FD but can't tell how this relates to it. So I wondered whether anyone in here would mind taking a quick look and tell me whether I need something different, if someone wouldn't mind? I have this PC already, using it for work, hence the question. I could ask in open forum, I know, but not sure whether my fragile male ego could handle the ensuing torrent of abuse and mockery (plus also don't want to reopen the old console/PC issue!).

And @Tyres O'Flaherty I hope that you don't mind this post - I'm hoping it is tangentially relevant to the spirit of your thread as my current answer to 'what are you up to?' is 'grappling with PC vs Xbox questions - please say if it's annoying or presumptuous and I will delete the post.

Operating system
Windows 10

Performance

Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 6 GB GDDR6
RAM - 16 GB DDR4 - 32 GB maximum installable RAM
Processor - Intel® Core™ i7-11800H Processor - Octa-core - 2.4 GHz / 4.6 GHz - 24 MB cache
Storage - 1 TB HDD (7200 rpm) - 1 TB SSD

USB - USB Type-C x 1​

- USB 3.1 x 3
Video connections - HDMI 2.1 x 1, Mini DisplayPort 1.4 x 1
Audio connections - 3.5 mm jack
I'm actually a little surprised you have those specs considering that it was lying around for work. You're not far off mine, which I've decided to evolve rather than outright replace. The video ram on your GPU could be a little higher than 6GB but regular ram is cheap and easy to upgrade. Though the latter isn't really necessary for games. The GPU is what counts. Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying a whole new computer with a base like this to work with.

You may be able to select a lot of ultra settings as long as you don't upscale.
 
I'm actually a little surprised you have those specs considering that it was lying around for work. You're not far off mine, which I've decided to evolve rather than outright replace. The video ram on your GPU could be a little higher than 6GB but regular ram is cheap and easy to upgrade. Though the latter isn't really necessary for games. The GPU is what counts. Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying a whole new computer with a base like this to work with.

You may be able to select a lot of ultra settings as long as you don't upscale.
Thank you for the very helpful feedback.

Without wishing to clutter the thread with my noise, I will say that I didn't really have it just 'lying around' - these days I trade Forex for a living, mostly our own account but have done a bit for other family members. I did okay on a deal for my brother-in-law, he was aware that my old machine was creaking a bit, and I overlay multiple live-feed price screens at once, and do it on a wireless network in a remote house with thick stone walls, so while not needing a gaming spec I do need a bit of go in a relatively young machine. So long story short he bought me a laptop a few months ago as a thank you. I hadn't switched everything across to it (okay - it was still in the box) but then when FD recently announced they'd do an account port I thought I'd dig it out. But then couldn't make the blurb on the box match up with the requirements for Elite, so posted in here as you all know Elite and I have seen previously that a number of you know your computing eggs. So it was sort of lying around, but for a specific reason, and Gareth is much more tech savvy than I am so guess I'm not surprised that it is a handy bit of kit. Must call him and thank him.
 
Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 6 GB GDDR6
RAM - 16 GB DDR4 - 32 GB maximum installable RAM
Processor - Intel® Core™ i7-11800H Processor - Octa-core - 2.4 GHz / 4.6 GHz - 24 MB cache

This appears to be a laptop or an ultra compact... it will not perform like a desktop equivalent.

It will absolutely run the game, but it will not do so as well as an actual desktop with "the same" parts. A mobile 3060 is quite heavily cut down vs a desktop 3060, for example - and 6gb vram is concerning because my card has 8.5gb in use when playing EDO. You might find yourself resorting to AMD FSX upscaling, and less than maximum texture detail.

Which is completely playable, just be aware that this is probably good for 1080p and 60fps outside of settlements - and less in settlements. If you wanted to pair this machine with a higher resolution or higher framerate monitor, I'd suspect you'll be disappointed.

Now a desktop with a 3060 (12gb) and say an 11600 cpu - that's very solid for 1440p at constant 60fps anywhere except settlements. You can probably wring 90 fps out of it on non-settlement planetary surfaces, or do what I do with my 3060 and render at 125% resolution for smoother edges.

Edit: TLDR, it will play the game in space absolutely fine. It may judder in stations and planetary settlements, largely dependant on your monitor resolution. There are graphics settings in the game to help with the this situation, if it happens.
 
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I'm actually a little surprised you have those specs considering that it was lying around for work. You're not far off mine, which I've decided to evolve rather than outright replace. The video ram on your GPU could be a little higher than 6GB but regular ram is cheap and easy to upgrade. ....

I thought the standard 3060 came with 12GB VRAM... while, oddly, the slightly faster Ti version "only" came with 8.

As @Nekozji surmised (and @Simon Templar explained) the spec was for a laptop (from the "i7-11800H" and the 6GB RTX 3060). There is little to be gained by upping the system memory from 16GB for Elite but I would stick in another 16 GB anyway (that's what I did with my laptop purchase last year) and since it has a 1TB SSD and a 1TB HDD there is storage enough to not need any extra added. All-in-all a decent present @Simon Templar - a good brother-in-law to have. ;)

BTW the power rating of the RTX 3060 will be less than for a discrete card ( is certainly is for my laptop ) so be aware of that when looking at performance particularly if looking to run on external monitor. (When connecting to my 4k monitor you can be sure my laptop won't hit the screen's 60 Hz in Oddy settlements or concourses.)
 
Well, ol Rupee Noon #26 had a good life of exploration. Unfortunately, while passing the 61 hours to transport the company Dolphin out from back home, tried a couple of on foot missions. I couldn't find the contact and didn't seem to get any access with the mission (?). I need to take a careful review how all that is supposed to work now as my first act of business as Rupee Noon #27. Anyway I broke into the airlock like the training.. to try and get to a terminal, which I have done in the past. And I guess their security took the wrong way. I didn't even know they were looking!
 
As @Nekozji surmised (and @Simon Templar explained) the spec was for a laptop (from the "i7-11800H" and the 6GB RTX 3060). There is little to be gained by upping the system memory from 16GB for Elite but I would stick in another 16 GB anyway (that's what I did with my laptop purchase last year) and since it has a 1TB SSD and a 1TB HDD there is storage enough to not need any extra added. All-in-all a decent present @Simon Templar - a good brother-in-law to have. ;)

BTW the power rating of the RTX 3060 will be less than for a discrete card ( is certainly is for my laptop ) so be aware of that when looking at performance particularly if looking to run on external monitor. (When connecting to my 4k monitor you can be sure my laptop won't hit the screen's 60 Hz in Oddy settlements or concourses.)
I also have no idea what the general Elite performance is like on xBox, so for all I know a graphic settings compromise on PC may give you something with the same look and feel of console. It'd be interesting to know actually.

Ultimately, you've nothing to lose by trying it out if you're a console player in a similar position. Except a little time transferring over, but it may actually be an interesting little experiment.

My gut says that everything will work out to an acceptable level but Simon will have a monster gaming PC within the year anyway after becoming a PC snob.
 
Sir, I am impressed. What's your secret to such a healthy skin and hair in this no-atmosphere planet?
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As @Nekozji surmised (and @Simon Templar explained) the spec was for a laptop (from the "i7-11800H" and the 6GB RTX 3060). There is little to be gained by upping the system memory from 16GB for Elite but I would stick in another 16 GB anyway (that's what I did with my laptop purchase last year) and since it has a 1TB SSD and a 1TB HDD there is storage enough to not need any extra added. All-in-all a decent present @Simon Templar - a good brother-in-law to have. ;)

BTW the power rating of the RTX 3060 will be less than for a discrete card ( is certainly is for my laptop ) so be aware of that when looking at performance particularly if looking to run on external monitor. (When connecting to my 4k monitor you can be sure my laptop won't hit the screen's 60 Hz in Oddy settlements or concourses.)
This appears to be a laptop or an ultra compact... it will not perform like a desktop equivalent.

It will absolutely run the game, but it will not do so as well as an actual desktop with "the same" parts. A mobile 3060 is quite heavily cut down vs a desktop 3060, for example - and 6gb vram is concerning because my card has 8.5gb in use when playing EDO. You might find yourself resorting to AMD FSX upscaling, and less than maximum texture detail.

Which is completely playable, just be aware that this is probably good for 1080p and 60fps outside of settlements - and less in settlements. If you wanted to pair this machine with a higher resolution or higher framerate monitor, I'd suspect you'll be disappointed.

Now a desktop with a 3060 (12gb) and say an 11600 cpu - that's very solid for 1440p at constant 60fps anywhere except settlements. You can probably wring 90 fps out of it on non-settlement planetary surfaces, or do what I do with my 3060 and render at 125% resolution for smoother edges.

Edit: TLDR, it will play the game in space absolutely fine. It may judder in stations and planetary settlements, largely dependant on your monitor resolution. There are graphics settings in the game to help with the this situation, if it happens.
I'm actually a little surprised you have those specs considering that it was lying around for work. You're not far off mine, which I've decided to evolve rather than outright replace. The video ram on your GPU could be a little higher than 6GB but regular ram is cheap and easy to upgrade. Though the latter isn't really necessary for games. The GPU is what counts. Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying a whole new computer with a base like this to work with.

You may be able to select a lot of ultra settings as long as you don't upscale.
You are all completely correct - I misread the CPU nomenclature for starters, missing the laptop designation entirely! Sorry about that! Oops 👎

Apologies @Simon Templar
 
When i see (ah no i think i never yet found anything so unique on my own) or hear about such things, can't get rid of a thought like here is where devs are testing a mechanic. That's the way exploration, or even maybe much more things actually, about seeking for something specific, is set up here in Elite, you get a thousand or two of false hits, but then there's a chance to find something that make you say aloud whoah. Chases out ppl that are used to have "rare" drops in other games after a dozen of tries, but it's closer for a real concept of something rare. Can't wait for someone discovering that lonely base that has opinion polls as a mission reward, and then another, where MI rewards are tripled.
 
You are all completely correct - I misread the CPU nomenclature for starters, missing the laptop designation entirely! Sorry about that! Oops 👎

Apologies @Simon Templar
I thought it was odd too since I assumed the same on the 3060 ram specs. I didn't realise it was a laptop either.

My old 4GB 1080Ti seemed to run okay though, if I made sacrifices in the graphics department. That's why I encourage Simon to experiment first.
 
Can 1080Ti have 4 Gbs? Wasn't it all 8? Got 1080 FE, 8 Gb for me. Or laptop? Idk if you can fit TI into a laptop.

Nope, some internet researsh confirms that 1080 TI has 11 Gbs DDR5. Can't find anything except a couple of random bugs where it can show less DDR in some tools, which is corrected by checking in GPU-Z.
 
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Can 1080Ti have 4 Gbs? Wasn't it all 8? Got 1080 FE, 8 Gb for me. Or laptop? Idk if you can fit TI into a laptop.

Nope, some internet researsh confirms that 1080 TI has 11 Gbs DDR5. Can't find anything except a couple of random bugs where it can show less DDR in some tools, which is corrected by checking in GPU-Z.
Sorry, I misremembered. It was actually a 4Gb 1050Ti.

I'm also pretty certain the minimum video ram requirements for Odyssey was 6Gb, but I see it's now 8Gb.
 
On Steam it's still min 6 Gbs - no, looked EDH, 8 indeed. That made me thinking that I never actually actually checked vram usage in game. In carrier hangar before disembarking it started at 4 Gbs, and in the process of going to my carriers' bar it quickly climbed to 7 Gbs. Guess even without CZ in a ground settlement it's all eaten and eating on my regular ram then. Yeah Odyssey is heavy. And i guessed i won't really need 1080's power, yet here we are, went through its max basically.

Looking at game specs is often useless, a lot of doubtful things is often written there, it's just a very broad indication of what kind of machine power you can need. Like you got it running on 6 Gbs vram while it's below min, while those guys with listed at min Quad Core CPU (4 x 2Ghz) might find things much more complicated, if even possible - no, again, looked EDH.
 
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My gut says that everything will work out to an acceptable level but Simon will have a monster gaming PC within the year anyway after becoming a PC snob.

It can certainly go that way 😹 Mostly it depends how many games he gets into. Myself I have about... 5... that I regularly play. All of them are locked to 60fps on this 3060, except in situations where they are cpu-bottlenecked. (E.g. WoW has cases where I have 99fps and the gpu is running low clocks and 50 degrees; and other cases where I have 45 fps... and the gpu is still low clocks because it's not the bottleneck. I imagine Kerbal Space Program will be the same. EDO is a bit more GPU heavy though, but even this humble card can run 1440p at a solid 60fps maxed out on eyecandy.)

OTOH if you feel a need to get some RTX titles... that's a slippery slope! Good news is next-gen cards should be hitting us in early autumn, or even later summer, so... don't be me and buy a new gpu last week 😹

Side note: I am currently running 125% with heavy antialiasing, and I'm wondering if I'm an idiot. Should I try 150% with no AA? I feel like the two things are aiming for the same outcome...
 
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I have an RTX 2060 6GB, slightly OC and I run Ody on Ultra Preset/Normal Upscaling/x1.0 at 1440p.

CPU is Ryzen 5700X

16GB DDR4 3200

Since patch 11, I no longer need to go down to High Preset when entering settlements

My frame rates are between 35 min on foot in settlements, generally around 50, and 120 or so max in space.
 
On Steam it's still min 6 Gbs - no, looked EDH, 8 indeed. That made me thinking that I never actually actually checked vram usage in game. In carrier hangar before disembarking it started at 4 Gbs, and in the process of going to my carriers' bar it quickly climbed to 7 Gbs. Guess even without CZ in a ground settlement it's all eaten and eating on my regular ram then. Yeah Odyssey is heavy. And i guessed i won't really need 1080's power, yet here we are, went through its max basically.

Looking at game specs is often useless, a lot of doubtful things is often written there, it's just a very broad indication of what kind of machine power you can need. Like you got it running on 6 Gbs vram while it's below min, while those guys with listed at min Quad Core CPU (4 x 2Ghz) might find things much more complicated, if even possible - no, again, looked EDH.
I suppose it's possible that I was also looking at EDH back in the day and Odyssey never changed its minimum requirements. Though it would also mean I was running Horizons on ultra with full upscalling even though my 1050Ti was 2Gb under the minimum. It was running great and looked ace.
 
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