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[aRJay]

Btw, some of these farmers are very desperate to save their pistachio orchards, 98% of the US production comes from this region. He drove his Chevy Silverado and his Ford F-150 into a levee breach, I wonder if he'll file an insurance claim.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1635690151304388608

To say I'm speechless would be a euphemism.

I presume he had already used up all his junk vehicles on earlier breaches, needs must and all that. With those vehicles as a foundation if he can get enough packing in there fast enough there should be a chance.

I remember reading somewhere about how the Dutch deal with breaches in the sea defences, the get an old ship of a suitable size and ram it bow first into the breach to act as a plug until they have time to do a proper repair.

 

[0threeleven]

I presume he had already used up all his junk vehicles on earlier breaches, needs must and all that. With those vehicles as a foundation if he can get enough packing in there fast enough there should be a chance.

I remember reading somewhere about how the Dutch deal with breaches in the sea defences, the get an old ship of a suitable size and ram it bow first into the breach to act as a plug until they have time to do a proper repair.

There's a picture of the levee in the twitter post a couple days later and they did a pretty decent job rebuilding it, he said he would come back later in the summer and recover the trucks. A Dutch guy did respond with a picture of a boat that had been rammed into a breach back in the 1950's and partially buried, it worked in that case too. They want to raise the levee around Corcoran, Ca about 5 feet to keep the forming lake out.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

Well, let's hope they didn't poison their orchards with oil and other harmful fluids in the process...

 

[0threeleven]

Well, let's hope they didn't poison their orchards with oil and other harmful fluids in the process...

I would think you would get more automotive fluids from a grocery store parking lot on a rainy day washing into a storm drain than those two pickup trucks could leak into a 5000 acer pistachio orchard. Many people brought up the same point as this in the twitter thread, I may have done the same when faced with over a million dollars in loses.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

I would think you would get more automotive fluids from a grocery store parking lot on a rainy day washing into a storm drain than those two pickup trucks could leak into a 5000 acer pistachio orchard. Many people brought up the same point as this in the twitter thread, I may have done the same when faced with over a million dollars in loses.

It is true that the surface of a grocery store parking lot is severely soiled. But the storm drain doesn't lead into an orchard, does it?

The responsible thing would have been to drain as much of those fluids as possible before dumping the trucks in there.
It would reduce the risk of severely contaminating* the region they want to protect significantly.
*: Which could spawn losses of similar proportions.

Yes, if everything goes well, the engine should be sealed up enough that nothing happens. But when you dump a running engine into water, unfortunate things can happen that poke holes into the outer shell of the engine.

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

You can still win in these situations * if you just keep killing the enemy and taking checkpoints - you just won't know when until you get the "there's only one enemy left" audio. If you do win, you,'ll have to call Uber rather than get the drop ship ** home.

* If, like me, you get irritated by this bug, you can opt to get yourself killed. You will be magically grabbed by the rescue rangers and dumped at your last dock point.

** If the drop ship is taking you away shouldn't it be called a "lift ship"?

So to end the damn thing you need to capture the points? Just killing hordes of the enemies wont end it? I mean I did try staying for s while killing and killing but I didnt try to cap.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Technically, you could win just by killing but a capture earns a ton more decrease in the enemy score. And, while you're busy doing the get some get some, they are capturing points to help you lose.

Plus, if the bug is active, you won't see the capture progress bar.

 

[bugbait42]

Now that I'm using my old T6 again, this time for trading in rares I've given her a name.

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

Technically, you could win just by killing but a capture earns a ton more decrease in the enemy score. And, while you're busy doing the get some get some, they are capturing points to help you lose.

Plus, if the bug is active, you won't see the capture progress bar.

BTW, is the bug kinda activated when the player L-SiXES the enemies when they land in that tight six-pack from the dropships? Its one consistent thing I am doing so I wonder if the damage to them too early after they land kinda causes the code to throw a fit?

 

[aRJay]

It is true that the surface of a grocery store parking lot is severely soiled. But the storm drain doesn't lead into an orchard, does it?

The responsible thing would have been to drain as much of those fluids as possible before dumping the trucks in there.
It would reduce the risk of severely contaminating* the region they want to protect significantly.
*: Which could spawn losses of similar proportions.

Yes, if everything goes well, the engine should be sealed up enough that nothing happens. But when you dump a running engine into water, unfortunate things can happen that poke holes into the outer shell of the engine.

The odds are quite good that the storm drain which only carries run off rain water will run into a river which may feed irrigation further down stream.

Oil, antifreeze, corrosion inhibitors and fuel are not things you want to be releasing into anywhere but dilution mitigates a lot and I doubt that there was even 200 hundred gallons total in those 2 vehicles which is insignificant compared to the volume of water we saw going through the breach.

On topic:
Still out exploring and just found a new to me Bio the Amphora which is so new/rare it is unknown to the BioInsigts portion of my copy of Elite Observatory so no idea what it is worth yet.
The bad news is the planet has a 2g field so a lot of falling out of the sky if I get much above 30 degrees from level with the added joy that it is running around 1500K which starts to run the health down in seconds even in the transfer portal which keeps the batteries full. The joys of parking an HMC planet close to a big bright primary star.

 

[bugbait42]

What a pain in the **** this one is. Yesterday I jumped my carrier into the MEDB system, hoping to be able to sell some rares there, then noticed that I was 1,600,000-odd LS away from any station. So I jumped my carrier again within the system to be close to one. Then departed for the station in my T6 but only then noticed that I was carrying "illegal goods" - ie the rares I was about to sell there. (Only found out afterwards that some rares are illegal in some systems.)

Anyway I jumped my carrier elsewhere where the rares were not illegal and sold them, but only then noticed I had a fine outstanding from MEDB, presumably for carrying the illegal goods, (even though I had only just left my carrier in MEDB and was still in sight of it.)

Couldn't pay it off in the system I was in as no Interstellar whatsit, so went in my Asp X one jump back to MEDB to pay it, but then noticed that the arrival star was not the one on the top line as usual, but the one at the bottom, meaning that the only stations were still a helluva lot of LS away:

So, in order to pay this daft fine, I either have to travel all those LS in supercruise or find an Interstellar thingy somewhere else (which is what I'll do - I think low security systems usually have them.)

I didn't do any of those CZs either for the same reason of course.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

BTW, is the bug kinda activated when the player L-SiXES the enemies when they land in that tight six-pack from the dropships? Its one consistent thing I am doing so I wonder if the damage to them too early after they land kinda causes the code to throw a fit?

The bug always - for me anyway - manifests as soon as the deploy cut scene appears and the "points"/progress bar fails to appear.

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

OK, Another question due to my long break.

Does the 'scope' mod for shotgun still tighten the spread pattern?

I have been saving slots for a long time.

 

[Codger]

OK, Another question due to my long break.

Does the 'scope' mod for shotgun still tighten the spread pattern?

I have been saving slots for a long time.

Yes, but since aiming down the sights does the same, and I like the spread for “from the hip” shots, I think it’s better to have the choice.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

I tend to go ADS on all guns, whether or not they have a scope. Up close with the shotgun = Ash Williams: "Yo! Shebitch! Let's go!"

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

Yes, but since aiming down the sights does the same, and I like the spread for “from the hip” shots, I think it’s better to have the choice.

Hmm, I just engineered the scope.

There is quite a significant tightening of the pattern in ADS mode after the mod.

Made a big diff! I love the shotgun more than the L6 now!

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

Took advantage of the big discount for buying Elite Dangerous at a mere £5 and started account number 3.
Longer term the purpose of this account will be to transfer tritium to the tritium depot on the fleetcarrier on longer journeys so that Quain does not have to be on it. This commander will also have a small medium and large ship with the most cargo capacity specifically for stocking the carrier with other stuff or selling off mined minerals. It saves Quain owning more ships or refitting existing ships for such tasks.
I doing one of the hardest things in Elite Dangerous - role playing him honest and avoiding anything illegal. Taking a couple of small cargo delivery missions that I then discovered I didn't have the jump range to complete was an honest mistake. Stolen goods
One black market out of 5 needed for The Dweller done
Finding missions I can actually do and upgrading a Hauler one part a a time right now. It's actually quite fun. Can't quite afford a detailed surface scanner yet to let loose on exploration data gathering.
Robigo Mines passenger missions are banned for this commander. I'll have to find other ways to make mid game money.
His ship fleet ambitions are modest to fulfill the max cargo volume per landing pad size. Dolphin, Python, Type 9 Heavy and maybe a Beluga for dedicated passenger transport.
The rest will be down to laser mining, trading rare goods and regular trading. I'm wondering how long it would take to raise the credits for a Python doing only rare goods trading. A challenge that should also help with the trade with 50 markets engineer unlock. Coming soon - trade every rare good in the bubble at least once, in a Dolphin.

 

[0threeleven]

The responsible thing would have been to drain as much of those fluids as possible before dumping the trucks in there.
It would reduce the risk of severely contaminating* the region they want to protect significantly.

I agree with you whole heartedly, we need to take much better care of the environment, I quit the logging industry because I didn't agree with Red Emmerson's clear cutting the West Coast. Many people are unaware of what plastics are doing to our environment and microplastics in our food supply. The thing to do is reduce the planets human population through reducing births.

Humans are resource hogs, they want refrigerators, microwaves, TV's ,washing machines, cars, food and thousands of other things. I remember when I was a teenager in the 70's, it was all about food until science kicked in and raised crop yields by over 500%, hopefully science can win the day again. I'm going to try and get some stick time in this evening, still need to put new steer tires on my Peterbilt.

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

Is this a new thing or I just experienced it for 1st time in 3 years of playing this game?

I recalled a ship from a ground base and instead of landing the usual several hundred meters away, it hovered like a 100m above the center of the base but I could see the blue boarding circle on the ground and could 'beam up'.

 

[Codger]

Is this a new thing or I just experienced it for 1st time in 3 years of playing this game?

I recalled a ship from a ground base and instead of landing the usual several hundred meters away, it hovered like a 100m above the center of the base but I could see the blue boarding circle on the ground and could 'beam up'.

It’s not new. Seems to happen occasionally on uneven ground.