I read your post properly. You wrote:
Suggesting that grinding isn't the problem as it's only a complaint from a group within the PvP community. This is flat out wrong. There are many different types of player who complain about the grind in ED.
What even is "Grinding".
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Have you read the thread after the fleet carriers info release? There is a lot of excitement. Not sure why, not interested in a fleet carrier meself, but there are a lot of people who are very excited about this. Read the thread then comment.
Aye, but reading the last couple of threads, most of the moaners were PvPers.....
I can think of a few reasons to be interested:
- It's new in a time when we haven't seen the high velocity of major gameplay updates
- It's largely an unknown in terms of specifics and details behind the full benefits it might provide
- It could be a solution to the issue of timed ship transfer
- It could serve as a mobile base of operations where station/outpost access is less than convenient
- They look cool from what was shown
- Their docking capacity seems generous
- So far no rep/unlock requirements have been announced
Probably a good way for Squadrons/Clans to fly the flag too & recruit. A good way of showing power projection that a squadron is currently present in that system. I guess it depends how the instances works, but i'd imagine they will show up as assets in a system.
yeah perhaps, doesn't mean there wrong though. Although to be fair, i don't think i've seen any commanders i'd regard as the PvPer really bothering to comment in these threads.
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Well, you went from "the only people complaining about grind are PvPers" to "most of the moaners" within a couple of posts, so I'll be taking your further posts (including this one) with a pinch of salt.
Issue here is that it adds nothing to the gameplay that doesn't already exist. Nothing. It's been a waste of dev resources. If you disagree then reply with the new gameplay features that are added.
If we want to be technical jumping what is effectively a personal megaship in real time rather than waiting for weekly server ticks and dev intervention is new.
For more than that we need to wait and see what else comes out. But given the way caps ships work now, I'm not sure what else people were expecting other than dockable ship transport and a credit sink.
Well it's a new grind added on top, so people can be busy figuring out what it is that they are continuously grinding for. By now I rather think the general game loop just became grinding for grind sake.
But that hasn't been announced - there's nothing about 'jumping in real time'. What has been said is scheduled jumps - what do you think that means?
True lol...
Still waiting for you to explain the last sentence.....
No, I did not say that the only people complaining about grind are PvPers. It was more of a general comment that there are SOME PvPers who gank other players, and who will also be on these threads moaning because they can't get God ships, because they don't like deep space mining, running missions, trading etc. They only like blowing up other player's ships. That is all they are interested in. So why they are playing ED is beyond me. To get that God ship you have to be happy to run missions, check out USS's, do some exploration, drive around on planets and shoot some rocks and do a heckuva lot of bounty hunting. Hardly the sort of activities that would appeal to people who are only interested in destroying other people's ships!Well, you went from "the only people complaining about grind are PvPers" to "most of the moaners" within a couple of posts, so I'll be taking your further posts (including this one) with a pinch of salt.
So this was why I was asking if there is not maybe a game out there that is more PvP-orientated? Then they could all blow each others ships up so the rest of us don't get ganked and don't have to listen to their moaning on this forum.
TBH I am not sure how many PvPers are in this thread, just had a quick look and it is impossible to figure out how many of the moaners are PvPers and how many aren't. So I coulda been wrong there, coulda been right? Any moaners, sorry, people with legitimate complaints about the excessive effort that is required to collect materials to engineer their ships, wanna tell me if they're PvPers or PvEers? A quick head count would be useful!
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Sorry, I'm not going to copy/paste the reply I gave you yesterday, I'm on a phone atm.
But you did not explain what your comment meant in that reply so I 'm still in the dark as to what the comment actually means! Was it supposed to mean something or was it just a pointless and meaningless comment?
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There is a VERY long thread developing after that announcement. Feel free to read it! I got a few pages in and got bored, not really that interested in owning a fleet carrier meself. But it looks like a lot of players are, and they are very happy that those behemoths are on the way!
Well said.
You asked me to explain the last sentence. I did exactly that.
Well, I think WinterKing suggested that a new game where you can just jump in and fight would be better for PvP players. That's why I mentioned CQC, recognising that it counts as a separate game.
TBH the complaints about grind from PvP enthusiasts are the only ones where I see some validity. They have a particular favourite activity in view and have to do a lot of completely different stuff before they can join in with their friends who are already having a good time. OTOH PvE players just need to git gud at having fun.
Yes you did.
Not "a problem", not "most of the problem" but "the problem". Now you're not even sure who those people are.