Pretty sure a teen working at Mcdonalds won't have mortgage, car payment, insurance, and other bills to pay for either...On top of that many teenies will be using their parents money to be buying games.
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What went wrong with Elite Dangerous
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I don't understand your comment.
I didn't do any premise or conclusion. I just looked at the type and number of comments in the SC thread to have an idea about where SC players are standing on typical ED complaints.
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This I agree on...lol,...but
an "adult" average salary will always average more than a youths....even with OVERHEAD.
We are talking disposable income...something you teens will not understand until you start to accumulate debt...that is when management comes into play...or not.
But Im off topic and bow out now.....
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(And the keyword is "disposable income" .. that's why today's kids get ruined by their 1quid iPhones)
(And the keyword is "disposable income" ..
that's why today's kids get ruined by their 1quid iPhones)
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The Sky is falling!
The end is nigh!
The game won't survive!
The game has to adapt to the "new generation"!
Only PvP piewpiew sells games!
I want my own station, else game dies!
The game must appeal to pimple faced teens demographic, or it will bever survive!
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1.4 million copies sold and counting... That actually more than many AAA games by AAA companies.
And most haters are still around...
The end is nigh!
The game won't survive!
The game has to adapt to the "new generation"!
Only PvP piewpiew sells games!
I want my own station, else game dies!
The game must appeal to pimple faced teens demographic, or it will bever survive!
(...)
1.4 million copies sold and counting... That actually more than many AAA games by AAA companies.
And most haters are still around...
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I would delete that post if I were you. The glaring logical hole in the statement makes it look a bit foolish. I'm sure you're not though.
http://www.theesa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/ESA-Essential-Facts-2015.pdf
56% of the gamers in 2015 were under 18 through 35 years old. You space dads only made 17% of the market.
56% of the gamers in 2015 were under 18 through 35 years old. You space dads only made 17% of the market.
And how many 18-35 gamers have triplescreen/VR HOTAS rigs and nice shiny Titan X's?
5 minutes of content and no replayability huh...someone has obviously never touched an older game. 40 hours was short for a game in the 80s and 90s, did you know that? Silly question, of course you didn't know that, you are used to games like CoD, which have a massive 8 hours of content. Elite, the original, was played by people for years straight, not a few hours, not a few days, years. There were other games that were more complicated, had big involved storylines that changed depending on your choices, so you could replay them over and over, ain't seen too many of those lately however.
Modern gamers want quick, easy, simple games that they can get through in a weekend marathon session, that being around 8 hours. Don't believe me? Go look at the new games out. Single player games today are quick, easy and simple to cater to the LCD crowd, so they can sell millions and millions of copies this year, and do it again next year with the new sequel!
You keep showing exactly how little you understand things...it was already pointed out to you by DaveB that you can NOT corner the market in E: D due to the sheer size of the market, 20,000 inhabited systems, thousands upon thousands of sources for ALL material and goods. A few hundred thousand people working 24/7 for a few months MIGHT be able to corner the market on something...maybe, provided they had help from people killing all NPCs who might possibly be moving cargo as well. You simply don't see how large this economy is and how it's impossible for a few people to control it, no matter how hard they try. You are never more then 2 hours away from any source of any material or good in the bubble. And you think you should be able to control and influence the market on more than a very small and very local scale. You don't understand economics, and you sure don't understand the scale of them on an interstellar scale as exists in E: D.
And you know what it takes to make this game last....you don't even understand the scale of this game, you don't understand how it works in any aspect at all. You and Sole are definitely not the folks who should be giving advice on how to make the game better.
Funny, you two telling people what this game needs to last....your views are so skewed it's not funny. PvP and control of the game by the players is what you want, things that this game isn't about. PvP can happen, should be rare and meaningful, I know you've both seen that many times, but you do NOT get what that means at all. Control of the game by the players will never happen, that's been a constant refrain from David Braben and FD et al since the KS, but neither of you understand that.
This game WILL fail...for you and the folks who demand what you demand, and that's all that it will fail for. It'll keep on going and being played and making money for FD due to all the people who want what David and FD have offered. So I guess you are sort of right, it WILL fail...for the folks like you who don't know what you picked up and think you've picked up something else and can't understand that.
So you are saying that teens do in fact have mortgage, car payments, school loans, electric bills, etc to pay for?
Funny, I remember as a teen buying, you guessed it video games, consoles and PC parts with my grocery store job money.
Funny, I remember as a teen buying, you guessed it video games, consoles and PC parts with my grocery store job money.
I pay for mine and my under 18s daughter's gaming. I make up 73% of the market.
Sole Hunter
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I started buying games when I was 13 at the good old game store near my house. I'm sure I spent more $ in my lifetime than many 30-40's old-timers. That's beside the point, Elite Dangerous is not expensive. I don't know in what third country you live in but you can start working at minimum wage at 15-16 years old in my town and easily afford the game when you have no reponsabilities.
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We all started playing when an adult game came along so those figures are not relevant to this game. Unless you are using this to back up your statement that the buying power is in the hands of the teenies even though they get their money from their older parents who apparently don't have the buying power as you seem to be suggesting.
Anyway, props for sticking it out. That kind of dedication may serve you well one day.
Anyway, props for sticking it out. That kind of dedication may serve you well one day.
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Wow ... Whilst I disagree with the op and many of the posts belittling the older gamers playing ED equally there is no need for the condescending attitude of "I earn lots and am rich.. Poor people are unimportant.".... I am no leftie but frankly it reflects badly on everyone being like that
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Peoples life and work history, whilst being absolutely fascinating, isn't on topic, so could the thread get back on track please.
Hopefully things will improve in the future but this is just way too boring at the moment. I will wait and see if any of the vapourware ever shows up. In the meantime thought I would leave something, hopefully that will assist others. If you want to get into smuggling or trading early on get a Cobra Mark III. A rate everything and get rid of guns and shields. It can then outrun everything and anything. Exit a location travelling at top whack and use silent running to enter a station.
Will watch developments with interest
Will watch developments with interest
The income issue was brought into this conversation by someone claiming that the early teens and early adult demographics should be catered to because they had the buying power...
I didnt see the post that reflected what you are saying.
Absolutely everyone is equal. If people are complaining that they don't have expensive setups - it's quite simple to obtain expensive setups. They simply have to put the effort into doing so, which is going to be the exact same effort for every person on the planet. Some are just more willing than others.
LOL! Unless you're talking load times. About 5 minutes to load (if all goes well) sounds about right.
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