Where did it all go wrong?

[Vasious]

Is tier 1 npcs pictures?

Tier 1 Characters as per the DDF

Players do not interact with these characters directly.
The character is common to all online players.
The character is created via an in-game invent – typically manually.
The character can only be killed by an in-game event.

TIER 1 CHARACTER EXAMPLES
Faction leaders
Station leaders
Regional persons of note

So Yes the "Pictures" as you put it meet tall the Criteria
And the Pictures do have backgrounds, yes we would like to know more but, there is not nothing

 

[smokingrabit]

I think the original elites had a flying style different to an arcade game, the rest of the game is beautiful but has no where near as many features as the original and the 40£ I spent on the first version I was expecting more adons but htey are working on other parts and are unlikley to see to it that I get my moneys worth, people played the game to wait and see if itt urned out that they liked it, but they did not.

 

[Cradle2Grave]

Tier 1 Characters as per the DDF

Players do not interact with these characters directly.
The character is common to all online players.
The character is created via an in-game invent – typically manually.
The character can only be killed by an in-game event.

TIER 1 CHARACTER EXAMPLES
Faction leaders
Station leaders
Regional persons of note

So Yes the "Pictures" as you put it meet tall the Criteria
And the Pictures do have backgrounds, yes we would like to know more but, there is not nothing

Ah yeah pictures. There's some babe one.

 

[babelfisch]

Is tier 1 npcs pictures?

TIER 1 CHARACTERS

Tier 1 characters are major characters within the game world, for example Planetary Presidents, Major Corporation CEO’s and top ranking crime bosses. Typically the player will interact with tier 2 characters associated with the tier 1 character rather than directly with the tier 1 character.
There is a global list of tier 1 characters.
They are identified by the following characteristics:

• Players do not interact with these characters directly.
• The character is common to all online players.
• The character is created via an in-game invent – typically manually.
• The character can only be killed by an in-game event.
• A tier 2 character can be promoted to tier 1, but only by an event.

TIER 1 CHARACTER EXAMPLES

• Faction leaders
• Station leaders
• Regional persons of note
• Engineering/Scientific specialists (enhanced weapons and modules)
• Can provide missions, but only on rare occasions, for example:
  • Very high faction rating
  • Very high player rank

The only thing missing are special missions, I hope they'll introduce them in one of the next updates. Everything else is just like the holy DDF suggested. Check your facts.

 

[Vasious]

Ah yeah pictures. There's some babe one.

Now what is shallow, the game , or you?
Don't be sexist, rise above it.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

The only thing missing are special missions, I hope they'll introduce them in one of the next updates. Everything else is just like the holy DDF suggested. Check your facts.

But but but when I read it it wasn't how I imagined it in my head

 

[babelfisch]

Now what is shallow, the game , or you?

You ninja'd me, got better responses than me and I still can't rep you more since I already did.

 

[Cradle2Grave]

Now what is shallow, the game , or you?
Don't be sexist, rise above it.

No man she is, have a look

 

[babelfisch]

No man she is, have a look

Because someone got blue hair?
*Can't tell if your profile picture wears a burka or a seleucid mask*
Anyway, I don't think this is part of the discussion.

 

[Vasious]

Could the Power NCPs do with more background
Yes

And that is slowly coming, some quicker than others

But they meet the criteria of the Tier 1 NPCs and fill that role.

You say they are "Just picture" but it wont make it true.

Just as the Pro Camp starts saying everything is fine and it then comes across as no improvement is necessary as we repeat, the Contra camp starts saying "there is nothing there" and both sides come out as wrong.

 

[SentineI]

DDF doesn't have description of PowerPlay or Community Goals - but again, it was feature described during KS. ...
So PowerPlay and Community Goals were planned all along. They are not fully fleshed out yet, not their full potential, but intent has always been there.

Please point to where any Kickstarter videos described something like PP.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't remember anything remotely like PP being described. (CG yes, PP no.)

 

[babelfisch]

Could the Power NCPs do with more background
Yes

And that is slowly coming, some quicker than others

But they meet the criteria of the Tier 1 NPCs and fill that role.

You say they are "Just picture" but it wont make it true.

Just as the Pro Camp starts saying everything is fine and it then comes across as no improvement is necessary as we repeat, the Contra camp starts saying "there is nothing there" and both sides come out as wrong.

That's the point where you are wrong. There is no Pro Camp saying everything is fine. Everyone wants the game to improve and everyone thinks there is much room for improvement. But they don't call FDEV scammers all the time and prefer to provide constructive critizism instead of saying we should stop enjoying what we already got and move on to SC.

 

[GibMeister]

Well, I have to agree that the game is unfinished and never will be and that if you buy Horizons you are buying another unfinished game with the same major flaws as ED base. Season 3 will follow and join the previous seasons as never finished......me? Well I quite enjoy the core space flight sim but for me that's the only bit that works! But I haven't played for a week or two since buying GTA V and don't expect I will for a long time......
.
Also there aren't many that still play compared to the number who bought the game...just play open and you see just how many, perhaps 3 or four players in and around your system and that's if you are lucky. I have a bout 50 people on my friends list and the most I have ever seen on the friends list as online is maybe 3! Usually the same 3... Where are the rest? Like me bored and moved on....I enjoyed my 8 months playing but the finished game has been sadly lacking in a large number of areas.

 

[Captain Torus]

Well, I have to agree that the game is unfinished and never will be and that if you buy Horizons you are buying another unfinished game with the same major flaws as ED base. Season 3 will follow and join the previous seasons as never finished......me? Well I quite enjoy the core space flight sim but for me that's the only bit that works! But I haven't played for a week or two since buying GTA V and don't expect I will for a long time......
.
Also there aren't many that still play compared to the number who bought the game...just play open and you see just how many, perhaps 3 or four players in and around your system and that's if you are lucky. I have a bout 50 people on my friends list and the most I have ever seen on the friends list as online is maybe 3! Usually the same 3... Where are the rest? Like me bored and moved on....I enjoyed my 8 months playing but the finished game has been sadly lacking in a large number of areas.

And the reason is simple, FD isn't listening to what players want and are not racing to add the content that has been wanted for so long, much of it since the beginning, they'd rather add revenue than content. I understand this philosophy, they have shareholders, but I am also a shareholder and I don't think the shareholders will be upset if the game gets better and gains a bigger following and sells more copies as a result.

 

[sbdags]

And the reason is simple, FD isn't listening to what players want and are not racing to add the content that has been wanted for so long, much of it since the beginning, they'd rather add revenue than content. I understand this philosophy, they have shareholders, but I am also a shareholder and I don't think the shareholders will be upset if the game gets better and gains a bigger following and sells more copies as a result.

Last time I checked we weren't on the game design team. It's their game so let them make it. You are just a buyer. If you don't like it either ask for a refund or do what most people do give up and go and buy you next game that you will become bored of after a few weeks. Don't forget to whine and dine of the forums to annoy people who do actual enjoy the game which you can't seem to accept.

Rinse & repeat

 

[ffr]

If you look at the general sales numbers just from steam sales (and you know a huge chunk, if not the majority, weren't from steam), and you'll see they've raked in millions. MILLIONS.

And if you look at the company accounts, you've seen that to do this they spent even more millions. Hence that over the period of Elite Dangerous, FD has failed to make a single penny of profit.

Oh and FD publishes their own games, so no cut is going to "the man".

The vast majority of ED sales are through Steam which takes a cut of 30%

Look at the new meet the team post. She talks about how much training she's been doing JUST for the QA team. This means the game is scaling at a crazy rate and they NEED that QA team.

QA (Quality Assurance) has nothing to do with sales. What it means is FD have a hell of a lot of quality issues to deal with.

If this one person is talking about how her small team is now huge, what do you think they're QAing?

Hopefully the bug-riddled Xbox version. Because otherwise it is never going to get out of the beta hell it is in.

according to the devs, the game content is going to be almost doubled.

800 billion systems??

 

[Captain Torus]

800 billion systems??

nono, 46 lines of code instead of the current 23.

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Last time I checked we weren't on the game design team. It's their game so let them make it. You are just a buyer. If you don't like it either ask for a refund or do what most people do give up and go and buy you next game that you will become bored of after a few weeks. Don't forget to whine and dine of the forums to annoy people who do actual enjoy the game which you can't seem to accept.

Rinse & repeat

Like LOTRO, oh, right, I have been happy with that game for 10 years so far.

 

[ffr]

Star Citizen. Budget: $100 million. Deadline: November 2014.

Elite Dangerous. Budget: £2 million. Deadline: December 2014.

Which game are we playing today?

Neither. "The original budget, because we put a lot of our money towards it, was £8m," David Braben

 

[Don Alvarez]

Like LOTRO, oh, right, I have been happy with that game for 10 years so far.

Really? curious. 10 years of happiness from LOTRO, despises ED. Me? Love ED, left LOTRO after 8 years because I thought it was heading into the crapper.

 

[XYZ]

Damn you DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok i am bored with ED but i will give it next chance - as I am angry with no content and social/rpg tools i will focus my anger insade the Elite Dangerous - just defected to ARCHON DELAINE , and i will be killing moarrr dan eva !!!!!
And damn you DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think that S2 Horizons price for today players is to high compare to new players but as i said i am angry as hell so i can not kill other CMDRs without pirate painting on my Python - so you can take my cash !!!!
.... and damn you DAVID !!!!!!!!!! you achived everything you wanted:
1. ARCHON DELAINE new CMDR (as you said in interview many times)
2. My cash.

AAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i am still not going to by Horizons !