Please stop, you're making yourself look even more like an idiot.
I'm enjoying SPEAR's impeccable demonstration of the adage, "Give your enemy enough rope and they'll hang themselves."
Please stop, you're making yourself look even more like an idiot.
You should come back and give PvP a try. Most of the community is actually pretty awesome until the Spear thugs show up, but until then, can I has your stuffs?Sometimes I see videos like the ones L'Intouchable posted. Sometimes I think about coming back to Elite more regularly. Sometimes I think about getting back into Powerplay. Sometimes I think about getting into PVP properly.
Then you guys remind me why I lost interest.
Now I'm not even sure this thread or the previous one were started in good faith: I'm now suspecting that it's just one PVP group trying to rile up another with an intentionally inflammatory post and the rest of us just fell for it and got caught in the crossfire.
Thanks for that, OP.
@L'Intouchable
thanks and here exactly you see the problem
the oversteering in the pitch
Source: https://youtu.be/YBnWPkSFsSQ?t=142
this is much worse with stick
and you need tons of hours of practice to control it even like it is shown on that time index
with rel mode fully turned on to 100% on such oversteering is nearly impossible even if you do it wrong
i didnt invite the ganker community
Please evidence this claim.when this center is done the game mechanic als activates correction trust
Please stop spreading misinformation without proof.Try it yourself and you will immediately notice the difference
This has nothing to do with any fine motor skills we have trained in using the mouse, but is solely due to the software support that the relative mouse provides.
No, but you've invited G4NK to fight with you. So what does that say about your credibility?i didnt invite the ganker community to turn this thread in a typical sxxt show what they always do. its their typical behavier that they brigade things they dont want.
the thread has the task to get some useful impressions beside the brigading and undermining and some good posts were made.![]()
also for you this is with TOOGLINGAs a pvper who uses stick, this is utter nonsense. Relative mouse is fine. Stick is fine. Hell, controller is fine. There are top level pilots on all of these. It does not need to be changed.
Who are the gankers here? I see three broad categories of people: people providing evidence that you're wrong, people who comment on balance, and people who agree with you. The first two categories vastly outnumber the latter. Is your definition of ganker everybody in the first two categories? Am I a ganker?i didnt invite the ganker community to turn this thread in a typical **** show what they always do. its their typical behavier that they brigade things they dont want.
the thread has the task to get some useful impressions beside the brigading and undermining and some good posts were made.![]()
I'm holding out for Odyssey, hit me up if that flops.Ok, good for you. Can I has your stuffs?
Thing is though, the ganking community actually takes part in PvP instead of high waking after losing one ring of shields, so I would argue we know more about the topic than anyone from Speari didnt invite the ganker community to turn this thread in a typical sxxt show what they always do. its their typical behavier that they brigade things they dont want.
the thread has the task to get some useful impressions beside the brigading and undermining and some good posts were made.![]()
well @L'Intouchable i guess we also can only agree to disagree here.
i think even if i would have a excel sheet which shows exactly the thrust what is given by move and counter move you would claim the same.
you can continue to try to undermine this but you will fail
and i ask myself personally why you all are so interested that frontiert does not introduce such a mode for stick altough experienced pilots like morbad or sanderling stated they are fine with it and see no problem and you all fly with relative mouse.
I'll accept for scrutiny literally any evidence if you can demonstrate what it means and how it was collected. So far your evidence has been your ship wiggling while you boost at a star with no input nor output indicators whatsoever.i think even if i would have a excel sheet which shows exactly the thrust what is given by move and counter move you would claim the same.
you can continue to try to undermine this but you will fail
My flight style takes advantage of the ability to toggle with stick, something that you cannot do with mouse. I can fly full fa off just fine though, as can the other top level pilots who use stick. Again, your argument that stick is somehow worse is nonsense.also for you this is with TOOGLING
dont use your toogling any more then you are on topic
but you need your toogling otherwise your flight style does not work.
To add to that, I know two controller users that would absolutely destroy Akuma and his thugs if they stuck around long enough to actually fight.As a pvper who uses stick, this is utter nonsense. Relative mouse is fine. Stick is fine. Hell, controller is fine. There are top level pilots on all of these. It does not need to be changed.
@Shields Offline
the audience here knows who the gankers are dont expect me to tell their names.
90% of the people who posted the last pages belong to the griefer and ganker community