Ok and despite all that, you dont have any problem re-rolling again all those modules and transfering ships or modules to engineeres bases? A pvp Anaconda will take about 115 rolls to get to the same level, if we calculate 5 rolls in each module. 115 rolls man, thats 345 materials for only a ship for christ sake and i dont want to calculate for all the ships (i wont re roll them all to keep my sanity), the number will be crazy. And tranfer everything to engineer bases, to just throw away some more time and credits? I do like that i will finally get the god rolls, but this is madness.
While I'd say that the new engineering system is not ideal, I'm OK with it. You can keep your current module, which is fair. You only take a hit if you want to roll for a better module. It's a small hit per module; I tried it in beta. There's no need to upgrade every module, nor every ship. There's actually no real need to do any engineering at all, unless you do PvP.
This thread is about BEING FAIR and about people that HAVE ALLREADY rolled their G5 modules MANY MANY TIMES OVER and the new system throws away that effort and asks them to ROLL EVEN MORE, just to maintain their level of engineering with the new standards.
Life is not fair. If you want the "best", then you should be happy that you can now get even better modules than the previous best, for a relatively small investment (compared to the previous system). Don't start engineering until you have sufficient materials; that seems simple enough.
You are saying that I:
3. That I maybe want, instead of the new system, a G6 level of the old system, adding even more thousands of rolls, where in fact i will roll THOUSANDS in the upcomming system.
4. Want to keep others from getting the best.
6. Should go and find a game that i enjoy. (Ok mommy)
From all the trolls out there, you must be in the top 3.
I do understand; I just don't agree. Again, there's no need to roll thousands of times. If you do it, it's because you want to improve your god-rolled modules even more.
LOL! While I've been called a white knight many times on this forum, this is the first time anyone has called me a troll. Not only that, I'm in the top 3! Considering the source, I'll take that as a complement.
Did you miss the '17 ships including fully G5 Corvette and Cutter'? Or just ignore it because you'd rather just make up your own version of what I've done in-game and then attack your own fantasy construct?
Im not actually saying you should be 'happy' about having to do a bit more, I'm saying that on a scale of how this could have gone, we're about here:
CRAP |-------------------------------------------|---------| NOT THAT BAD
For an idea of what crap looks like, see 2.1. It's a significant improvement. You just don't feel you should have to do anything else at all because your mods now are relatively at the top of the heap compared to anybody else's mods today. I think when there are actual increases in stats to be had it is reasonable to expect people to make a relatively small amount of additional effort.
I'm not 'blindly' defending anything. I'm saying it's reasonable. IN MY OPINION.
I also think it's reasonable. I spent 2 months in RL to engineer my AspX's FSD. For a small additional effort, I can improve it by another 5%. Not all that much, but that will save me many jumps on the 2nd Distant Worlds Expedition.
Ok i get it. So since you say you understand the issue, how come like reasonable people, we dont just ask for a fair conversion, one that respects peoples hours spent?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but FD has clearly shown (again and again) that they have NO respect for the hours players spend in ED. This game, like most, is a time sink.
This thread is about the unfair "conversion" of a G5 module to a much worse G4 module.
It is not relevant that 3.0 end results will be better.
It is not relevant how many rolls someone put into the current system.
Respectfully, I disagree. The only reason to convert a module is that you want an even better one, so the intended result is clearly relevant. It's a small price to pay, especially if you've already invested so much.
A fair conversion would yield stats on par with what the current module has.
As it is (or will be), the only reason to convert a G5 module is so you can skip the G1-G4 grind. "Converting" serves NO other purpose.
And that's a very good purpose, indeed. At least you don't need to restart from the beginning. That would be unfair; the new system is merely annoying.
