Why atmospheric landings?

I'd come back for atmospheric landings - doubt I'd even bother reinstalling for spacelegs - what's to explore? the same dead worlds we've had for 5 years, the same 5 identical space stations? Unless they're bolting on a whole new game along with it, that isn't a spaceship flying game?!?

I could understand adding legs after the game's complete, just to keep it going... but there's still no comets, landable asteroids, usable gas giants, improved ice worlds, actual caves, improved rocks scatter system (mentioned once by Fdev), interactive (no matter how short) black holes... and still only two planet types to land on.

I did nearly 2000 hours flying around in ED so what's spacelegs gonna add, 40 hours?
 
While I entirely agree we should be careful - we don't want to see Frontier posting something like this ..

We've listened to the community and we've decided to delay the 2020 update (and fleet carriers) until 2022 so we can re-prioritise the efforts of the development team and get them working on exciting new atmospheric landing content. In the meantime ... join us tonight as Stephen and Paige go bug hunting with the Anti-Xeno Initiative
After gathering forum feedback we came to the conclusion that only 2.8% of the community is interested in atmospheric planets and space legs so we decided to reprioritise these features into a later release. We'll buff mining payouts instead.
 
I've gone into depth on why I want atmo elsewhere, but here is a short list...

  • Atmospheric Flight creates more dynamic battles over planets
  • Weather effects deepen immersion and create new challenges and module opportunities (Storms, Wind, Fly-By-Instruments, Etc.)
  • Weather effects deepen immersion and create new challenges for SRVs
  • Atmospheric Flight and its potential challenges can be used to balance planetary markets/missions to be more lucrative
  • Atmospheric Flight removes one more barrier to opening up other world types for exploration


Far from an exhaustive list, but that's my two credits. Atmo does a lot more than add just immersion value - it can be an entire feature set that deepens and diversifies gameplay for planetary missions, POIs, and exploration.
 
Because it's one more step for completing the game world.
Because it's actual space sim content.
Because they are beautiful and I'd really love to see (acidic) rain on my canopy.
Because it could come with a lot of great gameplay mechanics and a makeover for planetary surfaces in general, since when they are working on planets, I'm pretty sure they will all profit from it.
Because atmospheric landings would be in line with ED's prequels, where we can even land on earth-likes, which I don't expect from atmospheric landings in Elite at first.
Because I am not keen on any FPS shootout gameplay in my favorite space sim but instead want the tech, the ships and more things I can do while space faring.

Add your reasons if you like, just please don't make this another space legs thread. Thanks.
Honestly I have little interest in atmos if its just going to mean the same gameplay but with trees/sand/ice.

Same goes for legs if its just going to be more boring mini-games.
 
I would love to get atmospheric landings.

I could go on all day long saying why I believe being able to access all the planets in the galaxy would be absolutely fantastic.

But then I noticed the OP created this thread in a "atmospheric landings instead of spacelegs" tone...



... so I can't in due conscience contribute, because I want both, not one at the expense of the other.
This. I want both too and will be happy with either as long as the implementation is good.
 
Because it's one more step for completing the game world.
Because it's actual space sim content.
Because they are beautiful and I'd really love to see (acidic) rain on my canopy.
Because it could come with a lot of great gameplay mechanics and a makeover for planetary surfaces in general, since when they are working on planets, I'm pretty sure they will all profit from it.
Because atmospheric landings would be in line with ED's prequels, where we can even land on earth-likes, which I don't expect from atmospheric landings in Elite at first.
Because I am not keen on any FPS shootout gameplay in my favorite space sim but instead want the tech, the ships and more things I can do while space faring.

Add your reasons if you like, just please don't make this another space legs thread. Thanks.
And because it would be wonderful to be able to cruise through the atmosphere of a gas giant, scooping up rare gasses and watching the cloudscape and lightning display all around.

It could even mean getting the ability to fly closer to stars (with special shielding perhaps) and watch the immense corona all around us.

It would be awesome to be stuck in mud, get the paint scraped off by 500 km/h acidic winds, get the canopy crushed by enormous pressure, and get lost in the SRV while being blown sideways down a slope with 0.1 m visibility, ...

There is so much gameplay and vistas to enjoy with atmospheric flight without even introducing theme park-like flora and fauna.

:D S
 
Because it's one more step for completing the game world.
Because it's actual space sim content.
Because they are beautiful and I'd really love to see (acidic) rain on my canopy.
Because it could come with a lot of great gameplay mechanics and a makeover for planetary surfaces in general, since when they are working on planets, I'm pretty sure they will all profit from it.
Because atmospheric landings would be in line with ED's prequels, where we can even land on earth-likes, which I don't expect from atmospheric landings in Elite at first.
Because I am not keen on any FPS shootout gameplay in my favorite space sim but instead want the tech, the ships and more things I can do while space faring.

Add your reasons if you like, just please don't make this another space legs thread. Thanks.
Because other game competitors like Space Engineers have successfully pulled this off with fan base mods
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=vTXns_Q5yUM&feature=emb_logo


Because a fan boy made an incredible atmospheric weather demo complete with volumetric clouds a while back. Which makes it quite a significant possibility to have atmospheric landings. A FAN BOI not FDev
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUR7m3aBC8


Because it's also quite a significant possibility FDev wants to add them. But have been limited by the technical capabilities of the game design to date......
 
Because other game competitors like Space Engineers have successfully pulled this off with fan base mods
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=vTXns_Q5yUM&feature=emb_logo


Because a fan boy made an incredible atmospheric weather demo complete with volumetric clouds a while back. Which makes it quite a significant possibility to have atmospheric landings. A FAN BOI not FDev
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUR7m3aBC8


Because it's also quite a significant possibility FDev wants to add them. But have been limited by the technical capabilities of the game design to date......
The weather demo was it using the cobra engine?
 
Because a fan boy made an incredible atmospheric weather demo complete with volumetric clouds a while back. Which makes it quite a significant possibility to have atmospheric landings. A FAN BOI not FDev
That's made with Unreal Engine 4 and I'm guessing is not actually procedural.

I have serious doubts ED will ever look like that, though I guess dum spiro spero.
 
The weather demo was it using the cobra engine?
It's VRage 2 developed in house by the Keen Software dev. Weather effects were added to pre existing atmospheric planets. So apologies for the misleading video description.

That's made with Unreal Engine 4 and I'm guessing is not actually procedural.

I have serious doubts ED will ever look like that, though I guess dum spiro spero.
Well thanks for the clarification on that. At least I can still look forward to the possibility of FCs.

So I suppose I can still dream about what the 2020 update will showcase.
 
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Rule of Cool undeniably supports Atmospheric Landings.

Because it could come with a lot of great gameplay mechanics...
I'll believe that when I see it, but we know we can count on FD's graphics/audio department to make my 3 second Ground Assault missions look and sound fantastic.
 
Because other game competitors like Space Engineers have successfully pulled this off with fan base mods
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=vTXns_Q5yUM&feature=emb_logo


Because a fan boy made an incredible atmospheric weather demo complete with volumetric clouds a while back. Which makes it quite a significant possibility to have atmospheric landings. A FAN BOI not FDev
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUR7m3aBC8


Because it's also quite a significant possibility FDev wants to add them. But have been limited by the technical capabilities of the game design to date......
Space Engineers is no competitor for me. I have it and I played it, and I like it. It's not at all like Elite though.
Concerning the atmospheric landings demo: it's pretty cool and a great achievement, but it doesn't take into account procedural creation, different kinds of atmosphere and surface and so on. I am pretty sure, Frontier could create an awesome looking tech-demo in no time. That's just not all.
And we will see what they will do with it when it's part of the game. Frontier has a lot of assets in the game they could have used for gameplay purposes, but didn't, which is kinda irritating. I meant the Thargoid stuff for example, along with a lot of other stuff that could have been served as a basis for gameplay that is not of the shoot em up variety.
So we'll see.
 
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