Modes Why does PvP in open even exist ???

[Darkfyre99]

PvP is one of the only ways my CMDR can influence PP as he will never pledge to any power.

You can also influence Powerplay via BGS manipulation, no pledging required.

No PvP required either.

Just like any blockade. Even during the peak of the Battle of the Atlantic, during the golden age of the U-boat, something north of 80% of allied shipping made it through.

You don't need to stop everyone, just enough to tip the scales.

The thing of the matter is, unlike those U-boat captains of old, you have to contend with the issues of an online game, as opposed to those of real life.

In real life, both sides are in the real world 24/7/365, and can never physically leave it.

In the case of online games, only one side is required to do this. The other side can log in any time they choose, get the job done, and then log back out before the first side can respond. They can also use alt accounts to teleport all over the galaxy if they so desire. Elite: Dangerous has the additional wrinkle that the first side probably won't be able to see the other if they're physically separated in the real world, multiple platforms that don't connect with each other, or just aren't instanced with anyone else thanks to the vagaries of the matchmaking server.

The way matchmaking in this game "works," you could be on patrol for hours, and you would never see the dozens of players flying past you in different instances, due to them being half a world away, playing on a different platform, have an ISP that blocks peer-to-peer ports, an overly aggressive firewall, or are behind an ancient piece of telecom tech that shoots their latency through the roof, which the local phone company has no intention of replacing because they're only one of three houses connected to it. (The last describes my situation with the local phone company, which is why I have to go with Comcast.)

Blockading works if the amount of effort required to maintain the blockade is less than the amount of effort required to get past it. In video games in general, and in this game in particular, the opposite is true, by a massive amount.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

2019 should be different.

September 2017 called, it's having deja vu.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

September 2017 called, it's having deja vu.

Really all its comes down to is the technology that is available to them at the time.

The game they built the with the idea in mind anyways.

Just like our ships were built with spacelegs eventually being a thing.

They just need time to grow to make everything work. Really not worried about it.

I just like giving you guys a hard time about it. Since its for some a reason a sensitive subject.

o7 ziggster.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Really all its comes down to is the technology that is available to them at the time.

The game they built the with the idea in mind anyways.

Just like our ships were built with spacelegs eventually being a thing.

They just need time to grow to make everything work. Really not worried about it.

I just like giving you guys a hard time about it. Since its for some a reason a sensitive subject.

o7 ziggster.

You said in September 2017 2.4 was going to have the changes you wanted. Everyone with an understanding of the game could see that coming. You would be here telling us: I told you so. You were wrong. 2.4 did not have those changes.
You said in Januari 2018 within 6 to 8 months the changes you wanted were coming. We were advised by you to put on our big boi pants. After 6 to 8 months, none of the changes you predicted were coming.
You said that Beyond would have the changes you wanted. Just wait, we would see. It was going to be such fun! Beyond did not have the changes you wanted.
In the livestream about the BGS the developers commented what a great feature the BGS was because everyone could influence it from whatever platform or mode they were in. It was amazing and special that way.

So far, you have been giving yourself quite a rough run. And so far, it's been quite the sensitive subject for you, considering the emotion you display while talking about it. Also considering nothing implies the changes you want are ever going to be in Elite Dangerous.

If your strategy is to give us a hard time by being consistently wrong for 16 months, it's working

 

[Jockey79]

You said in September 2017 2.4 was going to have the changes you wanted. Everyone with an understanding of the game could see that coming. You would be here telling us: I told you so. You were wrong. 2.4 did not have those changes.
You said in Januari 2018 within 6 to 8 months the changes you wanted were coming. We were advised by you to put on our big boi pants. After 6 to 8 months, none of the changes you predicted were coming.
You said that Beyond would have the changes you wanted. Just wait, we would see. It was going to be such fun! Beyond did not have the changes you wanted.
In the livestream about the BGS the developers commented what a great feature the BGS was because everyone could influence it from whatever platform or mode they were in. It was amazing and special that way.

So far, you have been giving yourself quite a rough run. And so far, it's been quite the sensitive subject for you, considering the emotion you display while talking about it. Also considering nothing implies the changes you want are ever going to be in Elite Dangerous.

If your strategy is to give us a hard time by being consistently wrong for 16 months, it's working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgyH9k1CSM

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

You said in September 2017 2.4 was going to have the changes you wanted. Everyone with an understanding of the game could see that coming. You would be here telling us: I told you so. You were wrong. 2.4 did not have those changes.
You said in Januari 2018 within 6 to 8 months the changes you wanted were coming. We were advised by you to put on our big boi pants. After 6 to 8 months, none of the changes you predicted were coming.
You said that Beyond would have the changes you wanted. Just wait, we would see. It was going to be such fun! Beyond did not have the changes you wanted.
In the livestream about the BGS the developers commented what a great feature the BGS was because everyone could influence it from whatever platform or mode they were in. It was amazing and special that way.

So far, you have been giving yourself quite a rough run. And so far, it's been quite the sensitive subject for you, considering the emotion you display while talking about it. Also considering nothing implies the changes you want are ever going to be in Elite Dangerous.

If your strategy is to give us a hard time by being consistently wrong for 16 months, it's working

Am I wrong or delayed?

 

[Jockey79]

Am I wrong or delayed?

Wrong.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Am I wrong or delayed?

Absence of proof is not proof of absence, of course - however continuing absence of proof may well indicate an increasing probability of absence.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Am I wrong or delayed?

Wrong. Because you included a timeframe in all 3 occasions.

Credit where credit's due, I give you credit for placing time constraints with your predictions. Because it added fallibility to your claims. Usually when people do these kind of predictions, they will leave that out, so they can never be proven wrong.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Wrong. Because you included a timeframe in all 3 occasions.

Credit where credit's due, I give you credit for placing time constraints with your predictions. Because it added fallibility to your claims. Usually when people do these kind of predictions, they will leave that out, so they can never be proven wrong.

Yeah I did. With the things they built. It surely seemed like this was something they would be doing right away with the state of the game. Its okay I was wrong with the time frame.

But I wont be wrong about it happening at all. No worries.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Absence of proof is not proof of absence, of course - however continuing absence of proof may well indicate an increasing probability of absence.

I got an award for showing up all year to school one time. Dont talk to me about absence.

Its hanging on my fridge.

 

[Darkfyre99]

Am I wrong or delayed?

Unless your goal is to be so thoroughly, consistently, and devastatingly wrong, that you somehow warp spacetime with the weight of your wrongness and pass through a wormhole into a Bizzaro-verse where up is down and false is true... I'd say you're wrong.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Unless your goal is to be so thoroughly, consistently, and devastatingly wrong, that you somehow warp spacetime with the weight of your wrongness and pass through a wormhole into a Bizzaro-verse where up is down and false is true... I'd say you're wrong.

Wrong for how long? I did put a time limit on. But it seemed they want to make other changes first. Maybe budgeting issues in the past. During the christmas event Braben spoke about being able to do more things and use more technology as Fdev as a company continues to grow.

They game they built though just like space legs again. Was built with an idea in mind.

Parts of this game are made for kicking the crap out of each other. Eventually they will make it happen.

They moved slower than I thought they would. Thats all. No biggie.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

2 Adams, One Will, and One Bulldozer.
https://youtu.be/VCy1ZYjLvdQ?t=872

The other Adam: "But more importantly than that, it represents how player's actions represent the world around them. We're talking about actions from players no matter what platform, or mode they're on"
Adam: "Yeah"
Adam & Will nodding
The other Adam: "It's all part of one shared galaxy, which is something amazing, in the same way we're doing things with exploration [...] every one is part of Elite is part of the same shared world"
Will: "Yes"
The other Adam: "And that I think is a really special part of our game"

Those who have checked out of Hotel California will now be allowed to leave.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

2 Adams, One Will, and One Bulldozer.
https://youtu.be/VCy1ZYjLvdQ?t=872

The other Adam: "But more importantly than that, it represents how player's actions represent the world around them. We're talking about actions from players no matter what platform, or mode they're on"
Adam: "Yeah"
Adam & Will nodding
The other Adam: "It's all part of one shared galaxy, which is something amazing, in the same way we're doing things with exploration [...] every one is part of Elite is part of the same shared world"
Will: "Yes"
The other Adam: "And that I think is a really special part of our game"

Those who have checked out of Hotel California will now be allowed to leave.

I think your sarcasm detector is messed up.

How about you Check Adam Woods reaction when will asked him if they are supposed to be fighting people on the other side.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Wrong for how long? I did put a time limit on. But it seemed they want to make other changes first. Maybe budgeting issues in the past. During the christmas event Braben spoke about being able to do more things and use more technology as Fdev as a company continues to grow.

They game they built though just like space legs again. Was built with an idea in mind.

Parts of this game are made for kicking the crap out of each other. Eventually they will make it happen.

They moved slower than I thought they would. Thats all. No biggie.

I doubt that "being able to do more things" will result in removal of player choice.

.... bearing in mind that all players (with access to multi-player) can choose whether, or not, to play among other players.

Simply put, other players are an optional feature for the player choosing to play the game.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I doubt that "being able to do more things" will result in removal of player choice.

.... bearing in mind that all players (with access to multi-player) can choose whether, or not, to play among other players.

Simply put, other players are an optional feature for the player choosing to play the game.

How do you say it?

We'll see.

 

[Robert Maynard]

How do you say it?

We'll see.

Indeed we will....

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I think your sarcasm detector is messed up.

I think you're clutching at straws if you want to claim that was sarcasm.

How about you Check Adam Woods reaction when will asked him if they are supposed to be fighting people on the other side.

How about you provide the citations you refer to, like I did?

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I think you're clutching at straws.


How about you provide the citations you refer to, like I did?

Im not sure where in the video it is. Nor do I care to look. Its there if you search for it.

Im not really worried about it guys haha. I just like messing with you dudes here.

Also, I know Maynard knows whats going to happen. Why do you think he hits me up all the time.

As with any mod team on any forum about the game. They are the first to know. Except here, it seems like people are trying to throw me off and it wouldn't be the first time.

You see I've been around the block a time or two. It gets deeper but Ill leave it at that.

I dont mind playing the games. Cause I know how to play all of them.