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Why I and many others will rarely play open
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Robert Maynard
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No.
Yes.
... plus the fact that combat rank is something that only ever increases over time and may be considered to be more of a long service award than an indication of skill.
Don't see how Elite rewards/encourages that. If by "encourages" you mean "allows" then yes, but remember that nobody is forcing level 1 players to play in the same mode as level 500 players.
That's not the case with most MMOs, where god-tier players attack noobs all the time and noobs can't do anything about that. And that's usually intended by the developer, because that noob would get angry that they get blown up all the time, and take out their credit card to purchase their own god-tier equipment to be able to stand up against other players.
Another one of Elite's beauties - no pay to win, which unfortunately is also part of many MMOs.
Not at all - I could freely pick in SWtoR with whom to play just fine.
Through non-intervention.
And because PVP has absolutely no connection with the game, but it is allowed.
Guess there is no point in me telling you to roll an alt and go in Deciat in a non engineered ship and see for yourself how many will feel encouraged to teach you a lesson by sending you to the rebuy screen.
For absolutely no ingame reason. And with no discernible penalty attached to the action.
SWtoR does not represent most MMOs.
That would be nice scenario for blocklist harvesting
Robert Maynard
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Several MMO have separated PvP and PvE servers - or have PvP flagging....
Robert Maynard
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Nearly as much of an own goal, on the part of the attackers, as the DG2 leaderboard was....That would be nice scenario for blocklist harvesting
Still, that's allowing, not encouraging.
Several, but not most.
Robert Maynard
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Numerically or by player population?Several, but not most.
Yikes. You on the warpath again?
But so true.Again, this.
True, some desperate gankers try to do it anyways but no chance.Precisely my experience as well.
I do spend a lot of time in my iCourier - it's the most gank proof ship I have (decent shields, and fast) while keeping its utility - can use it as a planet lander (SRV bay fitted), mat gatherer (8t cargo + 1A collector limpet), bubble jumper (35LY and 3A fuel scoop fitted) and light combat ship that I've used in CG RES and even CZs alike in the past (3x size 2 HP's can do decent damage and allow for some flexibility also). The only ships that can catch it are other Couriers & Vipers, but they won't have the firepower and ToT to even drop my shields.
Number of rebuys: 1 - because while chasing after a ganker at Deciat I accidentally boosted into a cliff
932m/s Viper 3 similarly although that one is more risky as it's barely made up of paper even. Exciting to fly around in the danger zone though.
I tend to respond with a lovely git gud to those
How convenient. But not very convincing.
Of course. But 'encourages' sounds more dramatic.
These topics always go on forever, and are pretty much about nothing. FD said years ago they have no problem with, as they said 'griefcondas killing noobwinders' in general. They added a little 'noob-zone', and beyond that you are on your own. ED encourges or discourages very little; its just you, your ship and your actions to keep it in one piece. Everything else is just forum waffling.True, but only if the Defender plays certain ships, outfitted in certain ways, and they accept to have their gaming time wasted in non productive ways by the attackers - unless their specific choice of ED gaming relies on playing the lure in greyhound race.
And all those certain conditions means the Defender will not play a ship optimized for their gaming goals (be it trading, exploration, mining, whatever), but optimized to prevent their attackers to kill them, meaning less efficiency because of less optimized ships/builds and because of the potential interruptions.
Sure, some people might enjoy the thrills of playing the hare.
Others might not, but they should not be berated or insulted for wanting to mind their own business. Enjoying their own time in the game, playing alone or with friends, but without feeling the need to entertain some strangers at the expense of their own entertainment value.
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The other difference (not that I know how this is handled in other MMOs as I don't play any of them) with Elite is that rank is not indicative of skill necessarily, but merely tenacity (and you can probably say experience). Getting combat Elite was one of the worst slogs the game has thrown at me. I only did it for the triple-E decal really
I don't see how my original statement "Most games don't have X" is refuted by "But this game Y has X".
I can’t tell whether this is descending into the traditional wheelie-bin-fire or a constructive discussion, because I find myself somewhat agreeing with both sides of the argument 
Yep, indeed.The other difference (not that I know how this is handled in other MMOs as I don't play any of them) with Elite is that rank is not indicative of skill necessarily, but merely tenacity (and you can probably say experience). Getting combat Elite was one of the worst slogs the game has thrown at me. I only did it for the triple-E decal really
The levels i mentioned were only indicative of the huge difference between a noob in a non engineered ship and a pro ganker in a g5 murderboat