Ian Phillips
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Why no 3rd person?
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If I was FD, I'd deliberately add 3rd person in on the back of these stupid arguments. He actually posted a FPS to say why a space sim shouldn't have it? BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ian Phillips
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I will remind everyone to address the post, not ridicule the poster. Thank You.
I think I've even seen the elite radar in movies. I'm not saying someone else wouldn't have come up with it, but I think it's not getting enough credit for it's impact.
Falcon 4.0 has 3rd person and it's useless for flying. When I play War Thunder realistic, I fly first person only and it's easier. How did people think that 3rd person made things easier anyway - where's the evidence that this is even a thing?
Pumpkin, i understand you perfectly, however it doesn't make any sense as we don't have any 3rd person view in the game.
So how could we even test that? But lets go to DayZ or ArmA and you can do the 1st and I can do the 3rd. Or you could watch this and tell me that this is all wrong and we are just making stuff up.
[video=youtube;v7zoVIsIT2A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7zoVIsIT2A[/video]
I would agree - it's genius but then it might also have been obvious lol - how else would you do it?
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And? It's an opinion piece and it's about a frikkin FIRST PERSON SHOOTER! Are you really unable to work this out even after everything everyone has told you over and over and over again?
I see you're chickening out of my offer, too.
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ED will have the ability to walk in the future that is why its important, and we are done discussing. It ain't going to happen deal with it.
Do you mean other than the 3rd person view that IS in the game?
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Oh I see so you're on the board of directors or the design team are you? No, you're not. You're just a forum user with no argument who claims we're done discussing but was never able to provide a solid rebuttal to anything, grasping at straws so much he had to use a video about a First Person Shooter to tell us, in ED, why we shouldn't be able to look around or over walls.
ED already has 3rd person so you're claim "it ain't going to happen" would seem a little foolish.
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I think ED is quite a different game than those military sims, so any comparison between them are completely pointless. Compare it to SC instead.
Who said anything about the FPS part of it? Do we have that now? No - OMG...
you're now so wrong you're not even in the right argument. It's like you went to London to watch Arsenal play and wondered why the stadium was empty because you didn't work out they were playing away.
Third person doesn't have to work with the EVA/walk around feature, but then it would be pointless to even have the upcoming commander creation feature.
How about calling it a "virtual surroundings simulation"? I mean, our ships have powerful sensors, that are able to generate sound based on what's around the ship, at all times -- so why not make the exterior cam a "neuro-link VR sim"?
To make it even cooler it should display everything as wireframe during the transition (cyberspace-style!) at first and then quickly fill in with textures... mmmm...
Robert Maynard
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We have access to a 3rd person view that, when used, gives us no control over our ship and weaponry.
From what Mike posted earlier, I doubt that that is going to change.
There are no 3rd person view in ED now, only the classified CAM and that is not the same as a 3rd person view.
So yes it will be just like that, use the RADAR and whatever sensors you get, but the 3rd person view as in a 3rd person view game was not the in original design of Elite Dangerous.
If you look at games as arma, you can jump in and out of cars/airplanes/helicopters and so on. Some servers allow 3rd person view some don't.
Aaahh so what you're saying is that the 3rd person view offers no advantage to you and you can't even control your ship! Case closed, add in the external camera to be better than the joke it is right now.
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Doesn't matter - your argument, not that you had one, is that it gives you an advantage. We've just proved that to be false as you can't even fly in 3rd person so it's provable and demonstrable that you are entirely wrong about this - unless you care to watch me blow you out of the universe whilst you watch in the debug cam?
Arma has nothing to do with ED at all, period. Who gives a stuff if it was or wasn't in the original design (care to prove that by the way or are you just asserting it? Let's see some evidence for this, not that it matters or anyone cares - how is it even an argument for not including something.
"It wasn't talked about in design so we can't have it, or anything else unless it was specifically raised in the original design meeting!" Have you any idea how pathetic that sounds?
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Robert Maynard
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Mike spoke of an improved external view - but not a 3rd person view where the ship remained under control of the player....
As to timescale, somewhere between Soon™ and eventually, I expect.
OK I see an issue here as I don't see the term "Third Person view" to specifically mean anything other than viewing from third person. I don't see it pertaining to having control over anything so that's probably causing some confusion.
Even so, if you could control your ship in it you're still at a disadvantage. The RADAR is your life in ED.
All I want is to be able to get a 3rd POV, hit buttons while outside the ship and watch the cool animations that are presently lost, from weapons emerging, to landing gear, to heat vents.
I have yet to see my DBS wings move when I hit landing gear, because the debug cam is too slow to pan around. Managed to catch a tiny glimpse of the animation in the DBX though.
It's not game breaking, but work went into the model animation, let us have the capability to see it in action.
I have yet to see my DBS wings move when I hit landing gear, because the debug cam is too slow to pan around. Managed to catch a tiny glimpse of the animation in the DBX though.
It's not game breaking, but work went into the model animation, let us have the capability to see it in action.
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