My only genuine want these days Is the greater Bilby, at #139, and even then, if we don't get it I'm okay. I'm pretty flexible on everything else, there's plenty of animals I like, that I would be happy to see - but i don't really have a lineup anymore, if Oceania is our very last pack - so be it. I just enjoy speculating and "what ifs" really
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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SA Coati (#4 on the wishlist)
Patagonian Mara (#27 on the wishlist)
Squirrel Monkey (#44 on the wishlist)
Roseate Spoonbill (#79 on the wishlist)
Reeves Muntjac (#85 on the wishlist)
I am only optimistic about the SA Coati to be honest. Mara and Squirrel Monkey are also somewhat possible, but I would rather not count on them to avoid being dissapointed.
I dont think frontier cares about zoo-nerd opinions and especially their captivity mindsets.
They just keep going releasing fun and charismatic animals for generic audience.
If backlash from forum and such was somehow effective there wouldnt be wild water buffalo year later, 3-toed sloth, 9-banded armadillo and go on.
I probably should have clarified - I am talking about the people complaining because the proboscis monkey was "ugly," or "scary" and I remember a few "ugh, not another monkey" reviews - that is the backlash I am referencing. It is not a cutesy animal that sells well. That's why I think baboons are unlikely to make it in. I think with a limited amount of slots left, we are going to get the cutesy animals of the options available, better to sell more volume.
I agree that while Frontier listens (bingturong rework, including most wanted animals, update fixes and features) they're going to choose what they think will sell best. They clearly include what they want to - the spectacled flying fox in the new pack for example is another of those species with very low holdings.
Except for the Persian Onager, they are all near (or in) the bottom of the top 100.
Bat-eared Fox
White-tailed Deer
Japanese Serow
Masai Giraffe
Persian Onager
Bat-eared Fox
White-tailed Deer
Japanese Serow
Masai Giraffe
Persian Onager
Hamadryas baboon is now at #7 if we go by Suzie's meta-wishlist rather than random_goat's. My next most wanted is probably the Geoffroy's spider monkey, now at #11. Then the great white pelican at #21, then the blackbuck at #39, and finally the serval at #41. Of these animals, I only expect to see the blackbuck before support ends, possibly the baboon if Frontier decides to do it right. I think if we get one more New World monkey it will be the howler or squirrel monkey, not the spider monkey (either would be easier to animate, and honestly I'd be fine with either, too) and I really, really doubt we'll get the pelican or serval.
European Bison #79
Muskox #8
Gelada #23
Scottish Highland Cattle #173
Nigerian Dwarf Goat #116
Better odds for some than others if we go solely off the wish-list. But I think even so, depending on the themes of the next packs we get, it’s possible we could see all of these animals added into the game. Let’s just see what the next themes are!
Probably yer or probably not, who knows
I think most of us know. Birds aren't coming.Probably yer or probably not, who knows
Onlly Frontier knows. Nothing is confirmed or cancelled, so they aren't 100% not coming, just what some part of the community believes
I'm curious. You say it serious or just as a personal thinking?
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There's nothing to be confirmed, and there's nothing that can be cancelled. Both terms imply that something is rumoured or in the works. There is nothing. No hints, no rumours, no teasers, no leaks. Since November 2019 "we want birds" has been the national anthem of the PZ community. They aren't coming.Onlly Frontier knows. Nothing is confirmed or cancelled
The "bird delusion" is getting a bit ridiculous now. Since the WTE was added to the game, we have had two bats, five butterflies, a sloth, and no birds. We're never getting flying birds in this version of the game. Pray for a sequel in 5-10 years time; that's where they'll probably show up. Let it go already.
Not yet bro, let the illusion be at least for the final of the game. Luckily the support for the game extends a bit more, and we may have a possibility of seeing them.
I remember everyone said the exact same thing about the JWE pteranodons. "They aren't coming", "Wait for the sequel", etc. And finally, bam, pteranodons for the final dlc. Yeah, i know they are different games, but you understood my point. There's no literal point to say "They aren't coming". There isn't enough thing to say that. It's normal to say "At this point, there are less possibilities of having them", or things similar, but never 0%. Of course. it may be already 4 years of the game support, and the possibilities are less, but that's the thing, they're never 0.
Of course is difficult to have them in the 1st game (If at one point a sequel exists), but is not impossible. Is just the illusion of seeing a very requested feature in the game by some people, including myself.
Support hasn't extended. The latest financial report only suggests we may get one more DLC at the end of FY2024, which would be the Easter release date. We assumed that would be the case anyway, so it isn't exactly a revelation. Whether we get anything more after that is entirely up in the air, but given there was no definitive statement in the financial report like there used to be, the odds are slimmer.
It's a completely different situation - JWE didn't have any means of containing pterosaurs prior to the Jurassic Park DLC. PZ has had the means of containing flying bird since the WTE was added. The Tropical Pack and Oceania Pack were both perfect places to put flying birds - especially the Oceania Pack, since Oceania is world-famous for its unique diversity of birds - and they didn't add them. How many more opportunities are you going to see pass on by before you realise that it's just not happening?
Not to mention, JWE didn't get proper fleshed-out flying animals until the sequel. So if you really want to compare it, the flying foxes are our "pterandons".
I'll repeat it once more.
We had 1237807921 oportunities of seeing flying birds, perfect and good oportunities. Of course we had them. Specially with the Oceania pack with the lorikeets discussion (at least we had 2 birds, cool additions tbh). But there is not a relevant thing in the world to assume they aren't coming. I'm not saying that they are coming, I'm only saying that it isn't impossible to see them in the game. I cannot realise something that isn't impossible.
Idk if i'm being rude or something, i hope I'm not. Just saying that isn't impossible to see them at some point that isn't PZ2. We didn't ended the game support, we can't assume yet that they aren't coming. The day when the financial report says "No more content for PZ", that day I'll assume it, as obvious as it looks. Until that day, I'll continue with my thinking.
Let's admit it, we won't find a middle place between 
We both have different opinions about flying birds, and that's ok. I can get a bit irritating in bird things.
But let's stay in the opinion that: Is very complicated to have flying birds after 4 years of support and numerous lost oportunities, but the support didn't ended yet, so for now isn't a sure thing that they won't come.
Let's just be chill about the birds thingy, specially me (I sometimes overexcite about bird themes). Deal?
We both have different opinions about flying birds, and that's ok. I can get a bit irritating in bird things.
But let's stay in the opinion that: Is very complicated to have flying birds after 4 years of support and numerous lost oportunities, but the support didn't ended yet, so for now isn't a sure thing that they won't come.
Let's just be chill about the birds thingy, specially me (I sometimes overexcite about bird themes). Deal?
I like to find myself in the middle of the whole birds are coming movement. There is no clear indication that the walkthrough exhibit was ever designed for birds let alone house dozens of diverse birds flying around to fill the bird desires as we imagine. But also there is nothing saying birds are not coming because we continue to receive birds at roughly the same rate we receive reptiles, there's just so much birds to cover and habitat birds are simply easier and more realistic to include in a game than prioritises habitats over exhibits.
My personal opinion is that birds won't be coming for the reasons mentioned. There were too many missed opportunities, especially when it comes to walkthrough exhibits. They could have added smaller birds for them, since the exhibits aren't really large, but they didn't. So there's no point to even think about larger flying birds. There are no mechanics for them. And considering them being habitat animals: Even the climbing mechanics for regular habitat animals are glitchy as hell (leopards doing the moonwalk on thin air two feet above the climbing structure, etc), I don't dare to imagine calculating proper landing spots for flying birds.
Of course, I'm no programmer or game designer, but to me it feels like there's too much time passed to come up with something the community wished for since the very beginning.
Of course, I'm no programmer or game designer, but to me it feels like there's too much time passed to come up with something the community wished for since the very beginning.
@Captain Callum , your dry sense of humor always makes me laugh.Turns out its just 24 different breeds of domestic cow
