Slim. I'm dead certain the wolverine is coming in December, just as I was dead certain the devil was coming in the most recent DLC (got the title wrong, I was right about it being a temperate pack!). I'm very, very doubtful that there's going to be anything like "South America 2" or "Amazon Animal Pack" or something like that, not when the there isn't a super high demand for a lot of the SA species being mentioned beyond monkeys (and we know Frontier hates monkeys!).
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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Everything below is rather cool than should or would.
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo species - underrated as mountain pack option.
Any chameleon, if not flying birds. There is plenty of them in mountains including famous ones such as Jackson and Veiled Chameleons. No need for obscure reptile from Llama and Alpaca Peaks and such
From truly underrated ones i would nominate:
- Helmeted Curassow - Bird + SA = very good addition
- L'hoest Monkey - Monkey = good addition
- Bar-headed Goose Bird + waterfowl = good addition
- Hoffman's Two-toed Sloth (WE option) - There is one interesting feature regarding two-toed sloth species, which could distinguish them as potential mountain animals. SA animal = good addition.
Generally anything to avoid yet another wholesome ungulora animal pack with one bone in form of monkey or bird usually thrown in to not make things suspicious. But since these are really necessary then:
- Siberian Musk Deer - ungulate from siberian mountains, but at least taxonomically unique = decent addition.
- Geoffroy's Cat - SA cat from patagonia and andes = decent addition.
Sure these aint happening for various of reason with main one being stereotypical view of mountains: bald rock + grass + snow on top.
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Um coati, spectacled bear, rhea? Even the mara i've seen a lot of people asking for. And peccary. There is enough to put together a full pack. They even have their precious carnivores with the ocelot and plenty of the oddballs they like to add like tamandua, coendu and bush dog.
I don't think we'll get it in December, but for what i see people are asking for more than just monkeys from SA (and not just me that i'm biased about it lol)
I want this.Ochotona iliensis I don't know how to call it in English
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Any! Probably due to the size of the exhibit box one of the smaller species, maybe a chain moray eel?
Aside from the coati, which is only high on the list by virtue of being bumped up with other things being taken out of the top spots, those other species aren't as popular as they seem. The mara perhaps is a little more attractive a prospect than others, I guess. I see more people against the idea of more bears and the rhea than I see for them. The peccary, too, only seems to come up as a possible alternative to the wild boar rather than something a whole lot of people actually "want".
Gotta remember that even within this community there's only a small number of regular posters, and these regular posters bring up the same things over and over again in terms of wishlists. So while it might seem like certain species have a lot of traction, it's kind of just the same 10 people mentioning it over and over again.
Anyway, I'm not saying they couldn't fill a whole pack, just that I doubt they would. Oceania is not "Australia 2" and Arid was not "Africa 2".
I've seen a fully-grown zebra moray in a tank about 1/8th the size of the in-game exhibit, so I wouldn't worry too much about space. Morays don't do much even in the wild; they're ambush predators and tend to stick to their own territory, usually a bit of coral or a rock with a hole they can hide in, only emerging to snatch a passing fish.
I don’t really see why we couldn’t get “Latin America Pack” in the spring. By that time the Coati would be in the top 2 of the meta wishlist and the howler monkey would be in the top 10. That follows the pattern of the Oceania Pack. One in the top 3, one in the top 10, then the other 2 are frontiers choices. I really think we could get a pack with coati, howler monkey, ocelot, and collared peccary.
Again, I'm not saying we "couldn't". I'm saying I don't think we will.
Personally, the closest thing I think we'll get to it is a "Central America Pack". Central America is the last in-game geographical tag, I believe, that hasn't been used yet. That still gets us a coati and peccary, has a good chance of either a howler or spider monkey (@Doran don't hit me, if everyone else is allowed to dream so am I damn it), and possibly an agouti instead of the mara. Also another small cat. Ocelot, maybe - that's pretty high on the wishlist now (well...higher).
Yeah I know what you meant, I meant to say I think the chances of getting a Latin America Pack are high. All of the other continents have gotten either dedicated packs to themselves, or they’ve been added to a lot in other packs. South America hasn’t been in a lot of other packs besides its own, and since Oceania Pack was a region pack based that included animals around Australia, I really wouldn’t say a Latin America Pack is out of the cards for the spring.
Im happy you chosen to live in delusion just like me.
The coati is #3 on the meta-wishlist. Easy to pick a few more that are relatively high up--spectacled bear, ocelot, Patagonia mara, tamandua, rhea, and a monkey for your seven habitat species.
Agouti doesn't get mentioned enough I think, I think it is pretty essential. These guys are everywhere in South American areas in zoos and are small and easily mix with almost anything, Azara's agouti especially I have seen basically everywhere. I'd actually prefer it to the mara, I think they are way more versatile (though I'd really like both).
Literally the only reason any of these animals are where they are on this list right now is because they keep "getting bumped up." Every single one. Including the wolverine who isn't much higher than the coati slot-wise or votes-wise. You could say the same thing about every animals currently in the top 10. Before wetlands, none of them would have been in the top 10.
But that makes sense! Because the goal post is going to keep moving from DLC to DLC as animals get added. And I would argue that, given where the game stands, the wishlist actually underrepresents how much people would want some of these animals in an upcoming DLC. What's important to somebody now may have changed with the addition of animal X from DLC pack Y.
Anyway, as far as the community desire for more Latin American representation in-game (especially the coati and the monkeys) goes it's certainly more than just a small number of people asking for it. It's much more than that as demonstrated by the votes on both wishlists as well as regular chatter in several discord servers, other social media groups, etc.
Interestingly, I agree with this! And I'm honestly a little surprised that they're so slept on. I'm not sure what it's like in South American zoos, but here in the US they tend to co-habitated with other animals. So they're not usually the "star" of the exhibit but they'll be a second species living alongside a sloth, tamandua, monkeys, etc. I wonder if that's it.
Either way, I could maybe see them in a "wild card" slot for a Latin American pack. People aren't clamoring for it but they'd find them cute and be okay with their addition in-game.
I've seen agoutis mixed with a lot of species over the years! Sloths, monkeys, tamandua, macaws, capybara, even maras.
Considering we are all asking for arboreal species to give life to South American tropical houses, maybe it would be nice to have something scurrying along the ground too? And the agouti does seem like a natural choice here.
Yeah everytime ive seen them they have been kinda treated like gazelles often do. As habitat mates for "Star animals" like monkeys and capybaras. Which ironicly makes them more desireable to me
