would you pay a subscription for ED?
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NO.
But I won't mind buying occasionally some skins for my ships or some other in game cosmetic stuff. I have till now spend more then 40€ on ship skins, and I would most likely spend even more if they have bigger selection. And that way is in my opinion better then having monthly subscription; players can buy some digital content that can further more finance game, without being forced to pay each month.
FD only has to expand their range of in game cosmetic stuff and they will see large increase in store profits (some extra skins for exterior of ship, then extra skin for interior, some figures to put on dashboard, emblems for ships, maybe pack of different colored laser beams; stuff like that)
But I won't mind buying occasionally some skins for my ships or some other in game cosmetic stuff. I have till now spend more then 40€ on ship skins, and I would most likely spend even more if they have bigger selection. And that way is in my opinion better then having monthly subscription; players can buy some digital content that can further more finance game, without being forced to pay each month.
FD only has to expand their range of in game cosmetic stuff and they will see large increase in store profits (some extra skins for exterior of ship, then extra skin for interior, some figures to put on dashboard, emblems for ships, maybe pack of different colored laser beams; stuff like that)
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Hey! No swearing!
Seriously. The reason I am playing this today is because STO treated the players so incredibly badly.
No, I'd never pay any subscription for any game. I don't like being committed, sometimes the weather's good and you just don't want to sit in front of a screen. Elder Scrolls has just dumped it's subscription for online play by the way, it might be worth looking into the background as to why. (I don't know myself but I suspect it failed in some way)
I would pay for expansion packs, but the base game has to reach a much higher quality for me to be in that position. I do love the game, but there is still a shocking lack of content I'm afraid. Just play one of the kids lego games to get a surprise as to how much work they put in. They quite simply do a lot more work, there's no two ways around it.
I would pay for expansion packs, but the base game has to reach a much higher quality for me to be in that position. I do love the game, but there is still a shocking lack of content I'm afraid. Just play one of the kids lego games to get a surprise as to how much work they put in. They quite simply do a lot more work, there's no two ways around it.
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If a subscription was asked I 'd feel completely tricked into this game. Especially after solo mode not being implemented properly ( I m one of the few not always online...).
After all we paid for the whole game experience. Imagine if Guild wars 1 or 2 was asking for a subscription after the first year. People would just abandon the game en mass.
The way to keep people in the game is expansions. More ships, a completely re-implemented mission system, maybe some sort of solo scenario, some kind of end game?
I do enjoy the game as it is, it is already better than most games I 've backed in alphas and betas, but a sub? There is no reason why people would stay, or even ask their money back! They did it for solo being cut out of the final product, this would be even worse. The deal was one time pay to own your game copy. How would such change it legally stand even? It would be like asking our game copies back without a refund. "Like" is not even needed in that sentence, it would be exactly that.
You buy a house, then the previous owner comes over:
-Hey I know you bought the house but I decided I should rent it instead. So lets forget you ever paid for it and pay up...
Anyway, expansions, sure people will pay for as long as they deliver what's promised. If it cannot deliver, well, too bad for Frontier and us playerbase. We both move on to the next game. (But please make it awesome!) Cosmetic microtransactions? Yeah why not? Python coloring looks hideous otherwise and that new graphite paint job looks cool. Frontier needs a bit more creativity with the kind of cosmetics it can sell and they ll have a sustainable economic model.
Why is subscription even discussed??? Online DRM already prevents piracy and the playerbase is so old it must be the most mature playerbase of all games with any kind of online mode! (Maybe chess beats elite on that...?) Maybe people worry about the console crowd getting the game and how they ll affect the current community? I don't think subscription keeps immature players out of the game. It's actually the game's character that does. And that is well set IMHO.
After all we paid for the whole game experience. Imagine if Guild wars 1 or 2 was asking for a subscription after the first year. People would just abandon the game en mass.
The way to keep people in the game is expansions. More ships, a completely re-implemented mission system, maybe some sort of solo scenario, some kind of end game?
I do enjoy the game as it is, it is already better than most games I 've backed in alphas and betas, but a sub? There is no reason why people would stay, or even ask their money back! They did it for solo being cut out of the final product, this would be even worse. The deal was one time pay to own your game copy. How would such change it legally stand even? It would be like asking our game copies back without a refund. "Like" is not even needed in that sentence, it would be exactly that.
You buy a house, then the previous owner comes over:
-Hey I know you bought the house but I decided I should rent it instead. So lets forget you ever paid for it and pay up...
Anyway, expansions, sure people will pay for as long as they deliver what's promised. If it cannot deliver, well, too bad for Frontier and us playerbase. We both move on to the next game. (But please make it awesome!) Cosmetic microtransactions? Yeah why not? Python coloring looks hideous otherwise and that new graphite paint job looks cool. Frontier needs a bit more creativity with the kind of cosmetics it can sell and they ll have a sustainable economic model.
Why is subscription even discussed??? Online DRM already prevents piracy and the playerbase is so old it must be the most mature playerbase of all games with any kind of online mode! (Maybe chess beats elite on that...?) Maybe people worry about the console crowd getting the game and how they ll affect the current community? I don't think subscription keeps immature players out of the game. It's actually the game's character that does. And that is well set IMHO.
I'd gladly pay a monthly sub.
I do fear the funding model for this game currently will dry up. Content comes at a price , and im willing to pay it to futher its developement.
Give me stuff to spend money on, ED is saving me so much as Im not spending money in the steam sales ! It's practically all I play.
I do fear the funding model for this game currently will dry up. Content comes at a price , and im willing to pay it to futher its developement.
Give me stuff to spend money on, ED is saving me so much as Im not spending money in the steam sales ! It's practically all I play.
Refund my original fee and see if I pay a sub
No. One plus at Kickstarter time was that this game would be playable in 30 years time. I don't need a complex background sim, I don't need other players in my game.
The xbox live model seems appropriate, making the PvP server itself what you pay for, if that aspect is what you want from a game.
The xbox live model seems appropriate, making the PvP server itself what you pay for, if that aspect is what you want from a game.
Arguments such as "content comes at a price" are irrelevant. FD informed consumers prior to release that there would be no subscription fee and they plan paid for DLC in the future - that's what you paid for when you purchased the game, compliance with that understanding. Done. No subscription fee, paid for DLC. End of story. Let's go home.
Elite - Eve - Subscription - Future?
Heya
I was sort off checking out the Elite for a while now.
Im a bit of an Eve fan but sadly due to its 2d-isch alike gameplay I always get bored of it. Pretty much try it every year for 1 month + then I come back a year later.
Anyway this game at start seems very much like Eve. Stations, powers, ships, pvp,pve, very cool stuff. Like how u guys sorted out many of the game mechanics.
Now my questions is.
1. Is this TRUE mmo ? I mean 19000 people on server? Lots of battles in space, lots of interaction? I palyed it for few hours and sadly I want not able to meet a single alive person - Something tells me that the text in chat is AI generated... How does it work ?
2. Will this game be expanded? Crafting system, trade, profile customization, more and more ?
3. Will there be a subscription pack to keep the game up in development and keep pushing it out? Unless you have a backing of a very rich people not sure how do you plan on expanding the game in next 5-10 years. Is there any plan for that?
I'm secretly hoping that this game will expand. In to bigger better and crazier world. Where we have insane ships starting from tiny invisible assassins and ending up on gigantic motherships capable of blasting away the planets.
Is any of this going to happen or is this just a small-med scale 1-2 months term game that wont have anything new too soon to keep us entertain.
Regards
Dariusz
Heya
I was sort off checking out the Elite for a while now.
Im a bit of an Eve fan but sadly due to its 2d-isch alike gameplay I always get bored of it. Pretty much try it every year for 1 month + then I come back a year later.
Anyway this game at start seems very much like Eve. Stations, powers, ships, pvp,pve, very cool stuff. Like how u guys sorted out many of the game mechanics.
Now my questions is.
1. Is this TRUE mmo ? I mean 19000 people on server? Lots of battles in space, lots of interaction? I palyed it for few hours and sadly I want not able to meet a single alive person - Something tells me that the text in chat is AI generated... How does it work ?
2. Will this game be expanded? Crafting system, trade, profile customization, more and more ?
3. Will there be a subscription pack to keep the game up in development and keep pushing it out? Unless you have a backing of a very rich people not sure how do you plan on expanding the game in next 5-10 years. Is there any plan for that?
I'm secretly hoping that this game will expand. In to bigger better and crazier world. Where we have insane ships starting from tiny invisible assassins and ending up on gigantic motherships capable of blasting away the planets.
Is any of this going to happen or is this just a small-med scale 1-2 months term game that wont have anything new too soon to keep us entertain.
Regards
Dariusz
Oh dear so many spelling mistakes... sorry forthat 
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Hope they work hard. One thing is for sure, if there will be any suscription---> I'm out (and a lot of players too). We players don't need to be ritch for playing a good sci-fi game like that.
It's not going to go subscription based, I don't think I can think of a single game (actually, maybe air warrior years ago might have) that has done that, let alone done that and survived. You'd have to be all kinds of crazy to consider it a good business move.
1. maximum of 32 players per instance, there are some very busy areas but it's got a lot of space for people to spread out into.
2. Expanded yes, where and how, who knows. Walking around and planetary landings are a known expansion, somewhen.
3. No subscription, there will be paid expansions and more cosmetic items on the store though.
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Hi.
Answers below:
1. True MMO discussions last many pages of many forums, but in my opinion Elite dangerous is an MMO experience. However due to size of universe you may spend alot of time interacting with NPC's ratherb than players.
2. Expansions are part of Elites "roadmap" although nothing set in stone. I believe Frontier will at some point add in planetary landings, Thargoids (Aliens) and in cockpit walking around. But apart from thse generalities there is no dates as to when these will appear. Known additions are CQC (online quick play PvP ship battles) that is a timed excklusiove with XBox at the moment.
3. I think Frontiers methodology at the moment is fixed chargeable fees for additional DLC (planetary landings, aliens etc). The rest are free updates. I believe that the intyention is that nElite is supposed to grow like EVE to become a more involved and complex game, but they ae having to take it a few small steps at a time at the mo.
Note that currently you will not expreinece 1000 a side mega battles a la EVE, there are Conflict zones and instancuing of environment that limit number of PCs to 16 I think, the rest is filled out by NPC's.
I think its a great game, and left EVE after 3 years of playing that for this.
Answers below:
1. True MMO discussions last many pages of many forums, but in my opinion Elite dangerous is an MMO experience. However due to size of universe you may spend alot of time interacting with NPC's ratherb than players.
2. Expansions are part of Elites "roadmap" although nothing set in stone. I believe Frontier will at some point add in planetary landings, Thargoids (Aliens) and in cockpit walking around. But apart from thse generalities there is no dates as to when these will appear. Known additions are CQC (online quick play PvP ship battles) that is a timed excklusiove with XBox at the moment.
3. I think Frontiers methodology at the moment is fixed chargeable fees for additional DLC (planetary landings, aliens etc). The rest are free updates. I believe that the intyention is that nElite is supposed to grow like EVE to become a more involved and complex game, but they ae having to take it a few small steps at a time at the mo.
Note that currently you will not expreinece 1000 a side mega battles a la EVE, there are Conflict zones and instancuing of environment that limit number of PCs to 16 I think, the rest is filled out by NPC's.
I think its a great game, and left EVE after 3 years of playing that for this.
I'm not sure using what funds are they meant to keep the game updates to be honest. Yeah initial sale will give them 5-15+ millions $ in sales But after that 1-3 years down the line. Its tricky. U know content and creation cost. Unless you want to see updates every 9 months instead of 2. I'm pretty sure that if they introduce a F2P, 5£, 10£, 15£ subscription packages with different options many people would subscribe just to help developer - I know I would.
But still.
Any answers for question 1 - 2 - 3 please?
And for love of god please enable Edit button on this forum