Your least enjoyable Elite activity?

1) I quit frustrated.
2) Not keen on catching up to match AI bulletsponge.
3) Gigabytes to download
4) Lost access to mail account registered with Frontier account.
5) Setting up all the fricken keybinds again.

1 are you back now? If not why are you here?
2 yeah that can be mountain to climb
3 what isn't these days?
4 sounds like a personal bookkeeping issue not frontiers problem
5 time consuming but I've made better layouts by doing it from scratch. Plus it's really easy to back up. (Assuming you're on pc)
 
I'll never understand the salt dispensed over this. People can still fly up to planets and 'discover' them if they dont like the fss. This who would prefer to see if the system is worth deeper inspection before flying all the way through it can. Its like they have this mindset of 'if i dont want to use this, you shouldnt have the option to use it'. Its like some kind of spoiled kid syndrome to an extent

You've got that literally 180 degrees spun round mate.

Firstly there is no way at all outside the bubble (i.e. in systems that have not been scanned by anybody yet) to see anything other than the star(s) unless you scan it all using the FSS. You can't fly up to anything because until you've used the FSS there is nothing there to select, either on the system map or in the left panel. The only way you can do it is to go back to even before the ADS when players had to literally look for planets by eye against the stars.

You can see how many bodies a system has because it will say 'discovered X bodies' when you honk it and you can see what type of bodies it has after a quick honk, assuming that you know how to read the display at the bottom of the FSS display, but you can't have any sense at all of what any of it looks like. If what you are looking for is visually distinctive worlds, orbital configurations etc, there is no way at all to do so other than by scanning every body in a system with the FSS and then having a look at the finally revealed system map, which we used to be able to get from an ADS scan. None. At all.

That's why Max's comment about 'adapting' sparked me up. There is only one way to get to view a system map and that is in turn the only way to have an idea of what a planet looks like, so if you're reliant on knowing what a planet looks like, there is no 'adaptation' possible. There is simply no other way to do it and the only way to do it now takes far longer than it used to.

Secondly, far from players like me having the attitude that 'if I don't want something, you shouldn't have the option to use it' that is exactly the attitude that people who celebrated the removal of the old ADS and its ability to provide a basic system map without playing hunt the blob showed.

I don't want to see the FSS removed at all, I've never asked for that even in the beta discussions. Most people who miss the ADS's simple functionality don't want the FSS completely removed either, I've seen very few people advocate for that over the last year. I just want the most basic functionality of the old ADS (i.e. providing a visual representation of the system) to be available as well. As a separate module.
 
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As has been said to you numerous times, you only need grade 2 upgrade to catch up with engineered NPCs and those materials are readily available. You're making excuses.
I'm not making excuses, I simply don't want to do some stupid homework before I can enjoy ED like I did before. You can do it for me if you like. Me, I'm certainly not bothering.
 
Yea. I guess you also go around and tell people that the BMW M3 is a terrible car, as the first production run, when it was released in 1986, had a number of problems?



Also my point of view. Engineers by now are not that bad grind any more. The old system of being able to pour an unlimited number of resources into it, always hoping for a better roll of random-on-random was a terrible grind. By now it's more manageable and you can succeed without grinding.

Guardian stuff on the other hand, by design, is grind. Only one activity can get you the stuff, there is no alternative to it and the activity has no real variation to it, too. The first few times it's actually fun and a challenge. Once you have figured things out, it becomes very boring. The very definition of grind.




Hmm. How to answer that? Let's start from the botton, of "needing" all the things: I know i have written the same thing seveal times already. Sometimes as reply to your postings. I don't know if you have ever read it, if you choose to ignore it, if i am on your ignore list or whatever. But i try one more time:

Whenever a new ship comes around in the game, i buy and equip it, do not engineer one single piece but rather take it directly to a HAZRes site. I then fight enemies of all sizes and combat ranks, to see what the new ship can do. Due to not having engineered defenses, i don't attack wings of enemies. That's where the lack of engineering would actually put me at a problematic spot. But i fared well enough against any non-winged target.

Based on that i dare to say that combat still is very much possible and enjoyable without any engineering at all. Of course that's just my personal experience, but as i am a mediocre pilot at best, i would guess that most other players are able to do the same.

And now to the harder part: You repeatedly give feedback based on outdated information. You refuse to experience the newer status quo, despite knowing that things were changed. You have no intention to actually return to the game. What is your agenda? Why do you still stick around here, if you dislike the game?

Mind you, i also think that the current power of engineering blueprints is bad for the game. I keep saying that. (Getting them nerfed would be part of my agenda, but I also am aware that this is unlikely to happen.) But my statements are based on the actual status of the game, not on how things were in a distant past.

So really, what are you trying to achieve by complaining about things which already were changed?
This is what happens when you dont play, or even like the game anymore, but decide to stay on the forums and whinge about it to people who enjoy it.
 
This is what happens when you dont play, or even like the game anymore, but decide to stay on the forums and whinge about it to people who enjoy it.
The topic is least enjoyable activity, not sure what you're expecting from it.
 
He doesnt know if he enjoys the thing hes complaining about. He doesnt even have the game anymore, and never bothered to try the new one.

Misery loves company.

No point doing things in the least fun way you can think of if other people have the temerity to enjoy themselves anyway.
 
I think about the only thing I don't care for much is material grinding. I get needing materials to build upgrades, but spending months collecting low end materials just to get a couple high end materials is a major pain. I wish we could just buy the materials from the material traders. Sure, make the high end ones expensive, and maybe give them limited quantities, but I can build money quicker than I can collect materials.
 
Next time I see you guys complain about the salty complainers grumping up your happy rainbow threads how fine and nice the game is, I'm gonna remind you how you just couldn't stand people commenting about what they don't like about the game.
I mean it's pretty pointless to argue about it. It's started with some pretty saltless and actually quite civil feedback until you came trying to crash the party with subtle accusations of entitlement and whatnot.

Just suck it up. There's been unfun experience at some point. If you want to tell about how aroused you felt with engineers there is still the "last enjoyable Elite activity".
 
Next time I see you guys complain about the salty complainers grumping up your happy rainbow threads how fine and nice the game is, I'm gonna remind you how you just couldn't stand people commenting about what they don't like about the game.
I mean it's pretty pointless to argue about it. It's started with some pretty saltless and actually quite civil feedback until you came trying to crash the party with subtle accusations of entitlement and whatnot.

Just suck it up. There's been unfun experience at some point. If you want to tell about how aroused you felt with engineers there is still the "last enjoyable Elite activity".

I don't complain about the salty types whinging constantly for years about whichever trivial video game tweak permanently upset them, its top quality entertainment (y).
 
I blaze my own trail, you'll provide it regardless of what I do.

You are "Grr engineering" guy.
Nearly as good as "Grr FSS" guy.
And less boring than "Grr LEP" guy.

Most people just play the game & talk about what they like & don't like about the game though, rather than the other contributors. Maybe you are taking this, way, way too seriously?
 
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