Essential African animal wishlist

FlameWizard492

FlameWizard492
Here's my go at it:
  1. Honey Badger
  2. Hamadryas Baboon
  3. Secretary Bird
  4. Nile Crocodile
  5. Angolan Colobus
  6. Shoebill
  7. Rock Hyrax
  8. Aye-Aye
  9. Serval
  10. Aardwolf
  11. Corquel's Sifaka
  12. Kori Bustard
  13. Impala
  14. Southern Eland
  15. Greater Kudu
  16. Waterbuck
  17. African Spurred Tortoise
  18. Barbary Macaque
  19. Gerenuk
  20. African Forest Buffalo
  21. African Crowned Crane
  22. Banded Mongoose
  23. African Leopard
  24. Vervet Monkey
  25. Griffon Vulture
  26. WE - Bush Baby
  27. WE - African Grey Parrot
  28. Exhibit - Egyptian Cobra
  29. Exhibit - Black Mamba
  30. Exhibit - Parson's Chameleon
 

macronecu

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FlameWizard492 said:
Cape Vulture
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are cape vultures even common in captivity? definitely not in european zoos
i have a feeling people are thinking of the eurasian griffon, but voting cape because of list rules, thinking eurasian griffon will not be accepted
@Matyej167 which is why i think you should make sure the direct eurasian griffon votes appears in the breakdown, as eurasian griffon is also found in africa
i would help you, but we need to fix my permissions issue
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
macronecu said:
are cape vultures even common in captivity? definitely not in european zoos
i have a feeling people are thinking of the eurasian griffon, but voting cape because of list rules, thinking eurasian griffon will not be accepted
@Matyej167 which is why i think you should make sure the direct eurasian griffon votes appears in the breakdown, as eurasian griffon is also found in africa
i would help you, but we need to fix my permissions issue
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Certainly, when I think of an African griffon vulture I think of the Ruppell's griffon - one of the more common African vultures in European zoos and the most common in North America, and the species my local zoo keeps.
 

macronecu

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Cynogale bennettii II said:
Certainly, when I think of an African griffon vulture I think of the Ruppell's griffon - one of the more common African vultures in European zoos and the most common in North America, and the species my local zoo keeps.
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this is the point i'm trying to make actually
ruppell's (CR) has a lot more rep in zoos with 75 holdings but only has 1 vote on this list, while cape vulture (VU) only has 1 holding in the whole of eaza, a single zoo in the uk
some other mainly african vultures common in eaza are hooded (82 holdings, CR), white backed (63 holdings, CR) and palm nut (44 holdings, LC) vultures
so i was very confused about the constant cape griffon votes lately, i thought maybe people think of ruppell's griffon or eurasian griffon which are more common in zoos
i have a feeling we should let people change their old votes, if this was what they were really thinking and want
we should also let eurasian griffon appear on the list since it is also found in parts of africa
 

SuzieSky

SuzieSky
macronecu said:
this is the point i'm trying to make actually
ruppell's (CR) has a lot more rep in zoos with 75 holdings but only has 1 vote on this list, while cape vulture (VU) only has 1 holding in the whole of eaza, a single zoo in the uk
some other mainly african vultures common in eaza are hooded (82 holdings, CR), white backed (63 holdings, CR) and palm nut (44 holdings, LC) vultures
so i was very confused about the constant cape griffon votes lately, i thought maybe people think of ruppell's griffon or eurasian griffon which are more common in zoos
i have a feeling we should let people change their old votes, if this was what they were really thinking and want
we should also let eurasian griffon appear on the list since it is also found in parts of africa
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I think those were the two I was thinking of, particularly Ruppell's
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
Antimony96 said:
Which one is more common in North American zoos?
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According to the post I have included below about birds of prey in North American zoos, the African vultures, from most to least commonly-kept, are:

Ruppell's griffon (13 zoos)
Hooded (11 zoos)
Lappet-faced (7 zoos)
Cape griffon (6 zoos)
White-backed (4 zoos)
Palm nut (4 zoos)
Egyptian (3 zoos)
White-headed (2 zoos)
Eurasian griffon (1 zoo)
Lammergeier (1 zoo)

www.zoochat.com

Birds of Prey in North America

Elanine Kites Elanus White-tailed Kite (2 holders) Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary Cascades Raptor Center Honey Buzzards & Kin Elanoides...
www.zoochat.com www.zoochat.com
 

macronecu

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Cynogale bennettii II said:
According to the post I have included below about birds of prey in North American zoos, the African vultures, from most to least commonly-kept, are:

Ruppell's griffon (13 zoos)
Hooded (11 zoos)
Lappet-faced (7 zoos)
Cape griffon (6 zoos)
White-backed (4 zoos)
Palm nut (4 zoos)
Egyptian (3 zoos)
White-headed (2 zoos)
Eurasian griffon (1 zoo)
Lammergeier (1 zoo)

www.zoochat.com

Birds of Prey in North America

Elanine Kites Elanus White-tailed Kite (2 holders) Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary Cascades Raptor Center Honey Buzzards & Kin Elanoides...
www.zoochat.com www.zoochat.com
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thank you for this nice post
what a detailed break down of all raptors in na, i love it
i wish there was a all in one to go place for north american zoos like tierliste
 

Antimony96

Antimony96
macronecu said:
thank you for this nice post
what a detailed break down of all raptors in na, i love it
i wish there was a all in one to go place for north american zoos like tierliste
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Unfortunately American collections are a lot more private with their full species lists than European collections, so these lists take a lot of independent research.
 

macronecu

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ok so let's wrap this up once and for all
sorry to tag you guys again, but we are trying to make sure votes represent actual demand and avoid confusion for frontier

the votes that are already clear:
@Aramar: eurasian griffon
@SuzieSky: ruppell's
@Sindy: cape
@Antimony96: ruppell's
@The Carcharodontogenius: cape

what we need to know still:
@Barje
@FlameWizard492
@Joshinator710

to make it easier for you to decide, here is some information on each:

ruppell's griffon (gyps rueppelli)
  • 75 eaza zoos
  • 13 na zoos
  • critically endangered
cape griffon (gyps coprotheres)
  • 1 eaza zoo
  • 6 na zoos
  • vulnerable
eurasian griffon (gyps fulvus)
  • 241 eaza zoos
  • 1 na zoo
  • least concern
we are considering to possibly place any unspecified griffon votes into "any from continent"
 
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Sindy

Sindy
macronecu said:
ok so let's wrap this up once and for all
sorry to tag you guys again, but we are trying to make sure votes represent actual demand and avoid confusion for frontier

the votes that are already clear:
@Aramar: eurasian griffon
@SuzieSky: ruppell's

what we need to know still:
@Barje
@FlameWizard492
@Antimony96
@Sindy
@The Carcharodontogenius
@Joshinator710

to make it easier for you to decide, here is some information on each:

ruppell's griffon (gyps rueppelli)
  • 75 eaza zoos
  • 13 na zoos
  • critically endangered
cape griffon (gyps coprotheres)
  • 1 eaza zoo
  • 6 na zoos
  • vulnerable
eurasian griffon (gyps fulvus)
  • 241 eaza zoos
  • 1 na zoo
  • least concern
we are considering to possibly place any unspecified griffon votes into "any from continent"
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I totally understand if it was accidentally missed, but I replied a while ago and said Cape.
 

macronecu

M
Sindy said:
I totally understand if it was accidentally missed, but I replied a while ago and said Cape.
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no it wasn't missed, but now ruppell's is also in the mix, so we wanted to ask again (before we didn't offer it as an alternative, not realising they are also griffons)
people could have felt forced to vote one way, when they actually wanted ruppell's for instance
i moved your name up to the known cateogry
 

The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
macronecu said:
ok so let's wrap this up once and for all
sorry to tag you guys again, but we are trying to make sure votes represent actual demand and avoid confusion for frontier

the votes that are already clear:
@Aramar: eurasian griffon
@SuzieSky: ruppell's
@Sindy: cape
@Antimony96: ruppell's

what we need to know still:
@Barje
@FlameWizard492
@The Carcharodontogenius
@Joshinator710

to make it easier for you to decide, here is some information on each:

ruppell's griffon (gyps rueppelli)
  • 75 eaza zoos
  • 13 na zoos
  • critically endangered
cape griffon (gyps coprotheres)
  • 1 eaza zoo
  • 6 na zoos
  • vulnerable
eurasian griffon (gyps fulvus)
  • 241 eaza zoos
  • 1 na zoo
  • least concern
we are considering to possibly place any unspecified griffon votes into "any from continent"
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I told you Cape Griffon Vulture.
 

MissySanchez

MissySanchez
1. Chameleon
2. African spurred tortoise
3. Pancake tortoise
4. Radiated tortoise
5. Gelada
6. African leopard
7. Mouse lemur
8. Helmeted guineafowl
9. White backed vulture
10. Ruppel's vulture
11. Hooded vulture
12. Mantled colobus
13. DeBrazza monkey
14. Bat eared fox
15. Rock hyrax
16. Yellow mongoose
17. Gray parrot
18. Great white pelican
19. Pink pelican
20. African civet
21. Common genet
22. Ring tailed vontsira
23. Dugong
24. Senegal bushbaby
25. Gaboon viper
26. Green mamba
27. Red duiker (natal)
28. Kirk's dikdik
29. Southern springhare
30. Nile softshell
 

leehonglocal

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MissySanchez said:
1. Chameleon
2. African spurred tortoise
3. Pancake tortoise
4. Radiated tortoise
5. Gelada
6. African leopard
7. Mouse lemur
8. Helmeted guineafowl
9. White backed vulture
10. Ruppel's vulture
11. Hooded vulture
12. Mantled colobus
13. DeBrazza monkey
14. Bat eared fox
15. Rock hyrax
16. Yellow mongoose
17. Gray parrot
18. Great white pelican
19. Pink pelican
20. African civet
21. Common genet
22. Ring tailed vontsira
23. Dugong
24. Senegal bushbaby
25. Gaboon viper
26. Green mamba
27. Red duiker (natal)
28. Kirk's dikdik
29. Southern springhare
30. Nile softshell
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I agreed about African leopard. I also like baboon and Masai giraffe.
 
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