So I was traveling to colonia and back for rare goods and ran into an invisible planet. With the servers being wonky I think it forgot to load the model. But yeah be careful traveling out there. Unless its something that was suppose to be important but I wont know until i go back that direction.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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No Batman Nebula but there is this :
Source :
NGC 6995: The Bat Nebula
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap211027.html
Ok, this is serious sh*t, I'm reposting this in Alek Zuno's thread later.
@Reyedog , Kira Goto's reply to my query on your Taranis findings here:
forums.frontier.co.uk
In short, she says:
But then here's her caveat:
Let's keep an eye on the Titan remains whenever we can. I'll pay a visit myself as soon as I finish my first science outpost.
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
Indeed it is; I just did a little peek at Titan Hadad! Presumably either reforming itself or becoming something else, it is making many different Thargoid regrowth noises if one listens to it for a while. In the meantime, System colonisation view has replaced Thargoid war view at the Galaxy map.
In short, she says:
But then here's her caveat:
Let's keep an eye on the Titan remains whenever we can. I'll pay a visit myself as soon as I finish my first science outpost.
I'm certain there a few hundred people keeping an eye on those things right now. Assuming this is real, kudos to FD for amazing work.
Not as many as that I think, not with colonization and the CG in full swing. At any rate, it won't hurt to keep an eye out. I've been itching to take out my DBX exploring anyway
An update on my NGC 7822 trip:
After some browsing of the local neighborhood I realized two things:
1. It's probably the biggest single collection of black holes and O stars in one place there are like 18 black holes in close vicinity. I'm going to drop into every one of them, see what that brings. There is a peculiarity about black holes in nebulas that I realized after dropping into like the 3rd one there - they reverse the skybox (if you look away from the black hole), and they KEEP the original stars in view. Additionally, if you're looking through the black hole, you have double star images - the regular and and mirrored. There are a lot more combinations of what you can see from them. Heck if you're looking for a mirror universe, any black hole in the game is it, and it's definitely a bit of an easter egg that you can just drop into them safely and look around. Too bad they added the exclusion zones.
2. I still think it's a stop on the journey rather than the destination. And I have a hunch regarding the destination. I enumerated through known nebulas and points of interest in Elysian Shore, and in a direct line from NGC 7822 through Bow Tie Nebula (NGC 40) there is NGC 188:
en.wikipedia.org
This is reachable now with fleet carriers - in fact it's a relatively popular destination - it's nearly reachable via Mandalay. An interesting fact about it is that this is in spitting distance from Polaris as view from Sol. The roof of this cluster is at Y=2657. In fact, I think you can get to Y=2131 with just a ship + neutron stars and maybe an injection or two. If one was looking for a place of "cosmic enlightenment" of some sort, NGC 188 may in fact be the place to go. Maybe there is a beacon, or something else hidden there. I mapped stars around there with bookmarks and there is a path more or less directly towards NGC 188 and it's missing one neutron star step to be able to just jump into NGC 188 with a ship nowadays. Fleet carriers were as a concept in 2017 so who knows. Carriers definitely existed in 2023 when the beacons were added for the memorial tour.
After some browsing of the local neighborhood I realized two things:
1. It's probably the biggest single collection of black holes and O stars in one place there are like 18 black holes in close vicinity. I'm going to drop into every one of them, see what that brings. There is a peculiarity about black holes in nebulas that I realized after dropping into like the 3rd one there - they reverse the skybox (if you look away from the black hole), and they KEEP the original stars in view. Additionally, if you're looking through the black hole, you have double star images - the regular and and mirrored. There are a lot more combinations of what you can see from them. Heck if you're looking for a mirror universe, any black hole in the game is it, and it's definitely a bit of an easter egg that you can just drop into them safely and look around. Too bad they added the exclusion zones.
2. I still think it's a stop on the journey rather than the destination. And I have a hunch regarding the destination. I enumerated through known nebulas and points of interest in Elysian Shore, and in a direct line from NGC 7822 through Bow Tie Nebula (NGC 40) there is NGC 188:
NGC 188 - Wikipedia
This is reachable now with fleet carriers - in fact it's a relatively popular destination - it's nearly reachable via Mandalay. An interesting fact about it is that this is in spitting distance from Polaris as view from Sol. The roof of this cluster is at Y=2657. In fact, I think you can get to Y=2131 with just a ship + neutron stars and maybe an injection or two. If one was looking for a place of "cosmic enlightenment" of some sort, NGC 188 may in fact be the place to go. Maybe there is a beacon, or something else hidden there. I mapped stars around there with bookmarks and there is a path more or less directly towards NGC 188 and it's missing one neutron star step to be able to just jump into NGC 188 with a ship nowadays. Fleet carriers were as a concept in 2017 so who knows. Carriers definitely existed in 2023 when the beacons were added for the memorial tour.
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well i am still missing a third titan drive. seems getting them to spawn is a pain in the butt. I found 2 at Taranis. But after that it wasn't spawning anymore for me. I was at Indra cause it is the not far from my fleet carrier location at Pirates Lamnet.@Reyedog , Kira Goto's reply to my query on your Taranis findings here:
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
Indeed it is; I just did a little peek at Titan Hadad! Presumably either reforming itself or becoming something else, it is making many different Thargoid regrowth noises if one listens to it for a while. In the meantime, System colonisation view has replaced Thargoid war view at the Galaxy map.
In short, she says:
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But then here's her caveat:
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Let's keep an eye on the Titan remains whenever we can. I'll pay a visit myself as soon as I finish my first science outpost.
On the plus side, if the Titans come back and we get into a loop of Titans regrow => Titans move and invade a system => Titans get destroyed => repeat, sounds like we'll have periodic supply of those.
That would be interesting. I wont lie engaging the titans was really fun to do.
I visited all black holes in NGC 7822 and other than some glorious sites, nothing particularly interesting happened. Two posts: first with the gallery of portraits of all black holes in NGC 7822, and second with some more interesting other shots.
And here is gallery part 1.
And here is gallery part 1.
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Now for some other shots from around the place. First, a view from HIP 172 (which is right below on the "far side" coming from the bubble. This looks like a gate with a path leading through it (at least to me).
Second, this is a fun image of an "angel" in the nebula (this is completely subjective, I admit - given how the nebula works, the number of O stars and black holes, you can make it do a lot of things). You can interpret a lot of things into angels, birds, or any other winged creature.
Third, there is a sort of a helmeted face / head visible from one of the systems, which appears to be holding some weapon maybe (?). Your guess is as good as mine. From the Bible and from Paradise Lost, cherubs are meant to be guarding Eden with fiery swords. Maybe that's what it is supposed to be?
Second, this is a fun image of an "angel" in the nebula (this is completely subjective, I admit - given how the nebula works, the number of O stars and black holes, you can make it do a lot of things). You can interpret a lot of things into angels, birds, or any other winged creature.
Third, there is a sort of a helmeted face / head visible from one of the systems, which appears to be holding some weapon maybe (?). Your guess is as good as mine. From the Bible and from Paradise Lost, cherubs are meant to be guarding Eden with fiery swords. Maybe that's what it is supposed to be?
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A note on black holes and things they do.
Turns out trying to get them to show other things is tricky at least. First of all, they have multiple layers of skybox reflections (you can see that in some of those shots above), and that means it's very hard to actually see anything useful. As you're leaving one, you can potentially catch something somewhat clear right before the event horizon.
The event horizon is actually not the surface of the black hole (if you ever dropped into one and left you probably noticed). It's a bit further out - if the black hole has radius ~50km, the event horizon will be ballpark at ~240km. You can leave them in normal space, not in supercruise, but it takes a while because you'll need to do 300km or so at regular speeds. Other than the slow motion of event horizon passage, it's not any fancier than doing it in supercruise.
Because of the first part, I realized quickly as I was going through them, that there won't be anything special to actually see, other than some very fuzzy pictures - this is unfortunate. Another thing of note is that any star alignment you may have before you drop into them will be gone after you drop into them because the lensing effect of the center of the black hole is so strong, you get a very extreme fish-eye effect and all the stars that are overlapping the black hole before you drop in will wind up on its perimeter. You can also see that in many of the shots above which I tried to align to capture most of the O stars in the neighborhood.
In terms of looking through them, they aren't all made exactly equal. If you drop into something that has 20 solar masses, it's basically already huge, and getting around it to change the position and view takes forever. If you intend to use them to view anything, smaller ones will probably work out better. Something like 4 solar masses or below is way more convenient.
Dropping into them with a very specific vector in mind is extremely hard. They are extremely small compared to supercruise speeds - even the large ones. At minimum you're cruising at 30km / s which is more than one radius of the small ones, and barely less than that for the bigger ones, so as you approach them, the alignment will get compromised. The easiest is to just move around them after you drop in.
No black holes in that nebula seem to work in any fancy way with respect to visuals - they are all just normal black holes, and lens things the same way. They all have exclusion zones, some are very close to stars (and you can see that in those shots above, too) - this is largely inconvenient for doing anything in them, because you will get extra 10-15% of heat from the main star, and it's the whole place is blindingly bright, and on top of that you have to be careful which way you need to leave.
Turns out trying to get them to show other things is tricky at least. First of all, they have multiple layers of skybox reflections (you can see that in some of those shots above), and that means it's very hard to actually see anything useful. As you're leaving one, you can potentially catch something somewhat clear right before the event horizon.
The event horizon is actually not the surface of the black hole (if you ever dropped into one and left you probably noticed). It's a bit further out - if the black hole has radius ~50km, the event horizon will be ballpark at ~240km. You can leave them in normal space, not in supercruise, but it takes a while because you'll need to do 300km or so at regular speeds. Other than the slow motion of event horizon passage, it's not any fancier than doing it in supercruise.
Because of the first part, I realized quickly as I was going through them, that there won't be anything special to actually see, other than some very fuzzy pictures - this is unfortunate. Another thing of note is that any star alignment you may have before you drop into them will be gone after you drop into them because the lensing effect of the center of the black hole is so strong, you get a very extreme fish-eye effect and all the stars that are overlapping the black hole before you drop in will wind up on its perimeter. You can also see that in many of the shots above which I tried to align to capture most of the O stars in the neighborhood.
In terms of looking through them, they aren't all made exactly equal. If you drop into something that has 20 solar masses, it's basically already huge, and getting around it to change the position and view takes forever. If you intend to use them to view anything, smaller ones will probably work out better. Something like 4 solar masses or below is way more convenient.
Dropping into them with a very specific vector in mind is extremely hard. They are extremely small compared to supercruise speeds - even the large ones. At minimum you're cruising at 30km / s which is more than one radius of the small ones, and barely less than that for the bigger ones, so as you approach them, the alignment will get compromised. The easiest is to just move around them after you drop in.
No black holes in that nebula seem to work in any fancy way with respect to visuals - they are all just normal black holes, and lens things the same way. They all have exclusion zones, some are very close to stars (and you can see that in those shots above, too) - this is largely inconvenient for doing anything in them, because you will get extra 10-15% of heat from the main star, and it's the whole place is blindingly bright, and on top of that you have to be careful which way you need to leave.
That black hole near a sun, is there a stream of solar material getting sucked in?
No, the game does not simulate anything like that. In nature you'd see that. Here it doesn't exist. What's more, the sun is basically immune even to the lensing effect. Neither the corona, nor the outline of the nearby sun get affected whatsover by the black hole. As you move and black hole moves over the sun, the black hole becomes impossible to see.
Edit: to clarify one thing: the deformations to the normal round shape of nearby stars are purely from the fact that I zoomed out the camera suite to show more of the neighborhood (which normally doesn't really change much, but nearby suns got a little elongated).
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