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Walk in exhibits thread
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Why not?
We all know how wonky the climbing animations are and if they have well made looped animations, it could work. Such small monkeys are much more active and more climbing than bigger monkeys.
Was it already confirmed for sure that we can't have the Iguanas in Walkthrough Exhibits? Did someone test it?
Only the bats will be walkthrough exhibit species for now.
I honestly think my favourite option for the walkthrough exhibit would be butterflies but that did get me thinking - normally, a butterfly house would have dozens of different species and I wasn't sure how this could be replicated. I don't think we would just get a general butterfly 'cloud' - each species would probably be treated as unique.
I have decided, just for fun, to choose some butterflies - twelve in all. They are divided up between slow-flying and fast-flying species that would share animations and I have tried to get the best spread of continents possible and also butterflies that can be kept in a butterfly house. These are my choices:
Taken together, that means South America has 4 species, North America has 6 species (including Central America), Africa has 5 species, Asia has 7 species, Europe has 3 species and Oceania has 5 species - the twelve butterflies are mostly tropical (because butterfly houses are generally tropical) but there are also some grassland and temperate species scattered in there as well.
When it comes to enrichment items, there are two things I immediately think of:
Lantana bush - popular with feeding butterflies; could be used by sunset moth, paper kite, orange-tip, swallowtail, painted lady, monarch, longwing, glasswing, birdwing and eggfly
Fruit table - a common inclusion in butterfly houses; could be used by forester, paper kite, swallowtail, painted lady, monarch, morpho, glasswing and eggfly
A feature that would come with the butterflies is a pupa case, which is simply a couple of strips of wood with pupae hanging from them - they would be purely decorative and not required for anything.
I have decided, just for fun, to choose some butterflies - twelve in all. They are divided up between slow-flying and fast-flying species that would share animations and I have tried to get the best spread of continents possible and also butterflies that can be kept in a butterfly house. These are my choices:
| Slow-flying species | Fast-flying species |
| East African sunset moth, Chrysiridia croesus (occurs in Africa) | Gold-banded forester, Euphaedra neophron (occurs in Africa) |
| Paper kite, Idea leuconoe (occurs in Asia and Oceania) | Great orange-tip, Hebomoia glaucippe (occurs in Asia) |
| Old World swallowtail, Papilio machaon (occurs in Asia, Europe and North America) | Painted lady, Vanessa cardui (occurs in Africa, Asia, Europe, North America and Oceania) |
| Monarch, Danaus plexippus (occurs in Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, Oceania and South America) | Zebra longwing, Heliconius charithonia (occurs in North America and South America) |
| Blue morpho, Morpho peleides (occurs in North America and South America) | Glasswing, Greta oto (occurs in North America and South America) |
| Common green birdwing, Ornithoptera priamus (occurs in Asia and Oceania) | Great eggfly, Hypolimnas bolina (occurs in Africa, Asia and Oceania) |
Taken together, that means South America has 4 species, North America has 6 species (including Central America), Africa has 5 species, Asia has 7 species, Europe has 3 species and Oceania has 5 species - the twelve butterflies are mostly tropical (because butterfly houses are generally tropical) but there are also some grassland and temperate species scattered in there as well.
When it comes to enrichment items, there are two things I immediately think of:
Lantana bush - popular with feeding butterflies; could be used by sunset moth, paper kite, orange-tip, swallowtail, painted lady, monarch, longwing, glasswing, birdwing and eggfly
Fruit table - a common inclusion in butterfly houses; could be used by forester, paper kite, swallowtail, painted lady, monarch, morpho, glasswing and eggfly
A feature that would come with the butterflies is a pupa case, which is simply a couple of strips of wood with pupae hanging from them - they would be purely decorative and not required for anything.
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I totally agree with @Cynogale bennettii on this. Walkthrough exhibits may be our only chance at getting butterflies or moths, as Frontier has already stated multiple times that they won’t be including any animals as props or effects (which is kind of ironic imo because exhibit species basically are looped props but I digress).
Honestly, butterflies/moths/flying insects are the only creatures that I’d be happy with seeing existing in this looped, walkthrough exhibit. I understand that some people are content with them, but I still am not a fan at all of the fruit bats as exhibit species. At the end of the day the bats are just props, but they are even more limited than most placeable props, as the player has no control over where they are placed. Personally, if they couldn’t have been actually a.i. driven, habitat species, I’d have preferred the bats as a new kind of individually placeable animal prop. They could have still been on a loop even, just one that is more small in range, so that the player has more customization opportunities. What if I want to build a small bat enclosure that guest can only look into? Can’t do that with the bats we have rn. Or what if the now, non-deleteable ropes and metals frames that the bats loop on don’t fit with the building or space I’ve designed as a player for them to go in?
I understand that Frontier has limits to what’s possible in the Cobra Engine, but handling their “exhibit” species in a way that allows for more player customization and object placeability isn’t a limit. Imo, even with the changes in this new update, Frontier’s exhibit species still feel like an after-thought compared to habitat species in PZ. Regardless if an exhibit species is fully boxed or a walkthrough, they all are rather clunky and limited in scope.
If there’s ever a PZ2, I really hope Frontier goes back to the drawing board on “exhibit species”, and includes them in the game in ways that more closely align with the habitat species in terms of user freedoms.
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Great Selection of Species. I like that there's something for every Continent. I'd add the Atlas Moth too though. One of the biggest Butterflies in the World.
My Idea for Butterfly Reproduction was that we could probably link a normal Exhibit to them that has the Caterpillars and Pupas inside which will then automatically be transfered to the Main Exhibit when they grow up. But I think your Idea is more likely.
Damn, if they would give us those and Bees too, it would be even more awesome to build nice Gardens
Enrichment Item Ideas for Butterflies:
Hummingbird Feeder, temperate Flowers, tropical Flowers (maybe sorted by Continent if that's possible), Moth Lamp, Sticks and Branches (to sit on)
This would be AWESOME!
I’ve been having fun with making bat walkthrough exhibits that match a theme for each of my themed zoos. Recently I sow how quickly a lot of people enter the walk through habitat. I remember going through a walkthrough aviary of SA birds and sloths and enjoying it, but in game I’d imagine sloths, toucans and parrots would get very stressed.
I really think frontier should continue these exhibit types but be specific.
Maybe include small non dangerous birds, maybe parrots, parakeets, macaws, blue jays, toucans, other bats and simple birds.
If there was another type of walkthrough that could cater to ducks, puffins and pelicans that be nice.
A walkthrough butterfly house would be nice.
If there was the same sized exhbit but did not have walkthrough I would support: slow loris, tamarins, sloths and other animals that would get too stressed if they were frequently having people walk into their homes.
I really think frontier should continue these exhibit types but be specific.
Maybe include small non dangerous birds, maybe parrots, parakeets, macaws, blue jays, toucans, other bats and simple birds.
If there was another type of walkthrough that could cater to ducks, puffins and pelicans that be nice.
A walkthrough butterfly house would be nice.
If there was the same sized exhbit but did not have walkthrough I would support: slow loris, tamarins, sloths and other animals that would get too stressed if they were frequently having people walk into their homes.
Shouldn't these rather be Habitat Animals? Could understand the Puffin being a Exhibit Animal but Ducks and Pelicans would be way better in my Opinion as Habitat Animals. Alone for the Reason already that you probably won't be able to put a Exhibit even if it's completely surrounded by a Null Barrier into the Middle of a Lake. Pelicans also normally get their Wings clipped in Captivity anyways
Birds that spend so much time in water and so little perching or flying shouldn't be exhibit animals, the current habitat system works better going from land to water surface. Complex diving or climbing is another topic, though.
I agree with you about pelicans, but I can already picture an amazing puffin walkthrough; on one side of the path, rock perches and burrows where the puffins breed, and on the other side, a glass-fronted pool that the puffins dive in for food. That would be awesome. Ducks are more a middling animal for me; on the one hand, I'd love to freely populate ponds and lakes with them as habitat animals, but on the other hand, ducklings would be absolutely tiny.
I have only seen Pelicans in an open habitat with a huge water space in the Zoos I have visited. So in my opinion they clearly should be Habitat animals.
Ducks are often hold together with flying birds in bigger aviaries. I have never seen a pure duck Habitat so this could be a bit Tricky but they also should be habitat animals in my opinion but personally I prefer to see a Goose species instead of ducks.
Ducks are often hold together with flying birds in bigger aviaries. I have never seen a pure duck Habitat so this could be a bit Tricky but they also should be habitat animals in my opinion but personally I prefer to see a Goose species instead of ducks.
But absolutely adorable and zooming in really close should at least work while they are swimming. I hope they can implement a Behavior that lets all the Ducklings follow their MotherShould be possible to make a Hybrid between Walkthrough Exhibit and Habitat by making at least one Wall a custom Wall with a Gate in it. Also, Bar headed Goose would be nice. I think we need at least 2 Ducks, 1 Goose and 1 Swan
I'd advocate for the common mallard and the white-faced whistling duck. That covers almost the entire globe with two very common ducks.
In my Opinion we should at least have one temperate Duck and one for tropical Regions.
But I'd love to get both the Mallard and the Mandarin Duck, so I would ok with Frontier also giving us more Duck Species
Just googled the white-faced whistling duck. It looks absolutely amazing. Also tropical Areas in South America, Africa and Madagascar. Pretty nice
I'd love to have that one in my Zoos
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I'm not looking for anything exotic in my ducks. I just want to wrap a pond in a null barrier and make it look like I have wild ducks just hanging out in my zoo. Mallards cover Europe, most of Asia, North America, Oceania, and North Africa, while the whistling duck covers South America and Subsaharan Africa. The only spot missing is southern China.In my Opinion we should at least have one temperate Duck and one for tropical Regions.
Well, three of my chosen butterflies happened to make it in. Would have preferred a few more tropical species to join the blue morpho, but still pleased to see butterflies make it into the game.
Step by step they are getting the exhibits ready for flying birds.
Or at least that is how it feels.
If they are actually going to do it, I really have no clue about it anymore.
But I still want to be optimistic.