Plans for Zoos after support ends (whenever it may, not an alarmist thread!)

Best way is to just upload it to steam and copy the image link or save it from there to your desktop!

Either way, beyond support I’d also love to just finish up all my projects. Love seeing them evolve with different updates and even going back for touch ups.
Yeah, I've seen your projects on Youtube. They're pretty awesome. I certainly don't have the skills for them. Also, I think I've tried that, and I don't think that it worked. Idk.

Btw, if you want, I'll just describe the B Zoo to you. Imagine using the terraform tool to carve a gigantic "B" in the ground, creating two huge mesas, which is a concept that I'd later abandon in the rest of these zoos that I've worked on. The larger mesa has bison, beavers, and a row of exhibits featuring all three kinds of beetles. Next to the beetles, there's a Pipshot juice bar which I've appropriately named "Beetle Juice." (I'm really proud of that) There are paths going through the carved "B." The right half is the forest/jungle area, which has underwater viewing for the beavers, as well as bongos, babirusas, binturongs, both kinds of buffalo, bonobos, and a few exhibits housing bullfrogs, boa constrictors, and goliath birdeaters. The other half is the Bear Trail, which, of course, houses every bear in the game (as well as a shoehorned-in butterfly WE). Right next to the entrance, I had to squeeze in the fruit bats.
 
It's hard to say. I'd be torn between designing the ultimate zoo containing every animal and doing it in the most optimal/efficient design I could think of and preparing for the inevitable successor game (probably on PlayStation VR).

I probably wouldn't do a very good job because half my mind would be dreaming about Planet Zoo VR and how you can actually walk through your meta zoo 1st person and show off your creation to anyone you want and tour other zoos 1st person.

The future is full of amazing possibilities.
 
Personally I'm not holding back on any of my zoo plans considering it is likely we will never have a full realistic roster of animals to pick from for my recreations and any gaps in the zoo are always either static models, empty or modded. We can all dream what the final expansion pack will be but I'm not holding my breath to build a zoo.

The best example for me is all these bird aviaries found in real zoos, the scope of bird mechanics will most likely never touch free flying birds within custom built boundaries, I hate the walkthrough exhibit for anything other than butterfly gardens. For now and likely the future, the workshop made bird models are my best friend.

Sure mods will be much for friendly for the general audience once supports goes but that won't change my building methods. I will continue to build unmodded and modded versions of my zoos to be workshop friendly.
 
I plan to finally finish a zoo 😂 I don't know what zoo, but I feel the chances of me finishing a zoo are sliiiiightly better when I don't get thrown of the loop by new animals, new pieces etc.

I might dabble into object mods and a feeeww species mod.

All in all I plan to keep playing this game for decades, just like Sims 2, unless PZ2 comes out and it's good.
 
Well, I agree, birds hopefully, so that is something that you feel is holding back on projects and ideas or ultimate zoo plans? Just trying to not turn this into another thread about what animals we want. More of an idea of our projects we have in mind.
Actually yes, I feel like it is holding me back very much so. Most of the larger zoos I have been to have had an aviary, if not an aviary the birds are worked through the zoos.

Let’s say I am building an Australia section in my zoo, I have no kookaburra. When building a North America section I have no bald eagle, great horned owl, burrowing owl, etc and etc. For South America do I really need to stress the lack of parrots and toucans?

Besides being unable to build crucial sections of zoos, birds are perfect for filling out areas where a larger exhibit just can’t fit in.

It’s not just birds, the lack of farm animals, reptiles, monkeys, amphibians, and fish are preventing me from building the realistic zoos I like.

My laptop can only handle small zoos, so that’s what I am naturally inclined to build. Unfortunately most small zoos have a good collection of small animals, which Planet Zoo has only recently been getting better at.

Still without the proper collection of birds or farm animals, I can’t make the realistic zoos I have been planning on.
 
Actually yes, I feel like it is holding me back very much so. Most of the larger zoos I have been to have had an aviary, if not an aviary the birds are worked through the zoos.

Let’s say I am building an Australia section in my zoo, I have no kookaburra. When building a North America section I have no bald eagle, great horned owl, burrowing owl, etc and etc. For South America do I really need to stress the lack of parrots and toucans?

Besides being unable to build crucial sections of zoos, birds are perfect for filling out areas where a larger exhibit just can’t fit in.

It’s not just birds, the lack of farm animals, reptiles, monkeys, amphibians, and fish are preventing me from building the realistic zoos I like.

My laptop can only handle small zoos, so that’s what I am naturally inclined to build. Unfortunately most small zoos have a good collection of small animals, which Planet Zoo has only recently been getting better at.

Still without the proper collection of birds or farm animals, I can’t make the realistic zoos I have been planning on.
And is not just about the most iconic species either. I'm building a SA wetlands section at the moment and i have an aviary planned and a mixed exhibit that should include birds but they will remain empty 🤣 and i don't like using implied birds like the ones on the workshop before anyone suggests that.

Mods are the solución for me in this case, but won't install new animals for now.

Every time i plan a section or zoo there is an aviary and not all aviaries can be filled with flamingos lol

In this case i'm in need of the roseatte spoonbill, and some duck at the very least. Southern screamer is also essential for this project but i don't expect frontier to ever give me that lol or the jabiru.

Fortunally therea re good mods for all of then except maybe the ducks. And that's why we really need a duck.
 
Guys, this thread is very specifically about what we do when support ends and if we are holding back on projects BECAUSE OF THE END, not because x species are missing. Can we please NOT turn this into another aggressive "BIRDS!!!!111" thread?

Most of us are frustrated by the lack of something. Birds, monkeys, animals that are common in a zoo in asia, oceania etc. but aren't in the game so we can't build a zoo how it would be typical in area X.
But can we, for once, at least in this one thread, appreciate the game for what IT IS or what we can make of it through mods, implied exhibits, you name it, instead of what it is NOT?
 
Guys, this thread is very specifically about what we do when support ends and if we are holding back on projects BECAUSE OF THE END, not because x species are missing. Can we please NOT turn this into another aggressive "BIRDS!!!!111" thread?

Most of us are frustrated by the lack of something. Birds, monkeys, animals that are common in a zoo in asia, oceania etc. but aren't in the game so we can't build a zoo how it would be typical in area X.
But can we, for once, at least in this one thread, appreciate the game for what IT IS or what we can make of it through mods, implied exhibits, you name it, instead of what it is NOT?
Thank you :)

I can understand that maybe some of the talk about missing species is tied into plans for zoos that you're holding off on, but very much this is a thread to discuss "endgame" projects, designs, concepts, that we may hesitate to do so now, when there's still more to come.

For me, I don't want to get into this particular situation again, that this example gives.

My main zoo is the one I'm most proud of, that was worked on during the time after the Africa pack and the Europe pack, so basically 3 "new" sets of animals to incorporate into it. Which was fine, continent wise we figured we'd be seeing those three continents fairly soon and we were right. I had a blast designing the North American section at the same time to the lead up of the release of the NAAP. I also was very certain at that point the Capybara was coming, so I did go ahead and make a habitat for it because absolutely was set on including it. Sounds nice...but here's where the problems start.

My Asia section - had to to literally cram in an Asian Small Clawed Otter habitat that barely worked, but fortunately did, for my Asia section. There was literally no more room to add another animal to it though. Africa section, I had hoped for the RRH and Porcupine, so I have been able to work those in, but the other animals from Africa? Not so much. Europe is also completely blocked off for expansion now. I might can cram in the Wolverine in my "cold weather" section but that's probably also going to be a stretch. Fortunately the Oceania and South America sections had some expansion space, but that's pretty much used up now -- though I do have a couple of spots I can put in another 2 Oceanian habitat. But the core zoo is very much using all of the space in it - there is no space to put anything new.

If we were to get birds, they wouldn't be able to fit in this zoo, or many others I've created aside from my "main" zoo. Getting a whole bunch of New World Monkeys? No room in any of my larger zoos for them. I'll have to start fresh or add them to smaller zoos. Maybe some small few can fit in with other species.

But by holding off on starting some more larger concept zoos, and not starting them until after new content support is over, when I do start them, I know exactly what species we're talking about. I can make room for aviary space in between two habitats that I can't do so now. I'll know...do I have 10 different Oceanian habitat animals to work with, or do I have 15? That's something I can be more informed about and make better choices on animal selection. Same for potential clone type animals to give some variety (I hope for more of this).

I don't want content to end too soon but I also have things I am looking forward to doing once it does. Though I'd rather have content keep continuing to be released than wrapping it up. But I think it's good to have some plans and ideas to look forward to once that happens.
 
I don't want content to end too soon but I also have things I am looking forward to doing once it does. Though I'd rather have content keep continuing to be released than wrapping it up. But I think it's good to have some plans and ideas to look forward to once that happens.
That's exacty where I stand as well. I made peace with a possible end of support at the end of this year. If anything comes after that... great! I just wish they'd pump up the free updates again, tbh, those get kinda frustrating. But maybe they're also a reason why I made peace with support end - at least I don't have to feel anymore like the gamer of an already abondoned by product :D
Anyway, regarding your dilemma with not having room anymore: First of all I admire you for sticking with a zoo that long. I'm not a master builder, but everytime I got better I always felt overwhelmed doing the old habitats anew, so I started from scratch. Like... everytime.
But with the zoo I stuck the longest with, I speciafically did not use strict region section exactly for the reasons you're facing now.

I feel it's like making a painting: It's less pressure and easier to do when you know exactly what colors (in our case animals and building materials) you have on your palette, instead of someone always adding into the mix. At least when you're more progressed with the painting. So yeah, I look forward to the point where I know exactly what's on my palette.
 
I feel it's like making a painting: It's less pressure and easier to do when you know exactly what colors (in our case animals and building materials) you have on your palette, instead of someone always adding into the mix. At least when you're more progressed with the painting. So yeah, I look forward to the point where I know exactly what's on my palette.
That is an amazing way to put it, and it's exactly the truth. I guess if someone's really focused on certain species or groups of species that we don't have, they could use that idea and say that they're missing a basic color as well.

And believe me, I absolutely get stuck on zoos at times as well. I do like the thrill of having a new, blank map knowing I can go in many directions with it. But I also can't do exactly what I want, because there's missing pieces. By that I don't just mean certain animals, more of a thing of knowing that there are missing pieces. I just don't know what those pieces are.
 
That's exacty where I stand as well. I made peace with a possible end of support at the end of this year. If anything comes after that... great! I just wish they'd pump up the free updates again, tbh, those get kinda frustrating. But maybe they're also a reason why I made peace with support end - at least I don't have to feel anymore like the gamer of an already abondoned by product :D
Anyway, regarding your dilemma with not having room anymore: First of all I admire you for sticking with a zoo that long. I'm not a master builder, but everytime I got better I always felt overwhelmed doing the old habitats anew, so I started from scratch. Like... everytime.
But with the zoo I stuck the longest with, I speciafically did not use strict region section exactly for the reasons you're facing now.

I feel it's like making a painting: It's less pressure and easier to do when you know exactly what colors (in our case animals and building materials) you have on your palette, instead of someone always adding into the mix. At least when you're more progressed with the painting. So yeah, I look forward to the point where I know exactly what's on my palette.
Like @jcp011c pointed out, your painting metaphor is spot-on. Haven’t finished a single zoo and honestly don’t plan on it until official support comes to a close. For example, a few months ago, I thought a desert-themed DLC was likely on the horizon, but never guessed it’d feature exclusively African animals. I like to build zoos with a geographical-diverse sample of animals and try to keep things pretty balanced. But things like the Arid packs can “throw a wrench” in plans. Because then it becomes clear my desert sections are forced to have a greater focus on Africa, meaning other areas of my parks need to find alternatives from other areas of the planet (like the grasslands), to avoid over-representation of one region.

Honestly I’m excited to see a potential modding “renaissance” with PZ once official support ends. I’m no modder, so I definitely don’t know all the ins-and-outs (thankful for people like you!), but I imagine the frequent updates and game changes Frontier puts out often put repeating hurdles in the way for you guys to ever make a ton of progress. I was extremely young at the time, but the things ZT2’s modding community achieved after the game’s official support ended was amazing to see. So many passionate and talented people, sharing their art for free with thousands of others.

And it seems like you guys, the PZ modding community, have already come so much farther so much faster than what was achieved in ZT2. We aren’t even past Frontier’s official support for PZ, and you guys already have so many great things out there. Heck, in ways you guys are even beginning to beat Frontier at their own game. Recently saw @Gabboi ’s remaster mods and the “glow ups” they provide for the animals really are phenomenal.

Truthfully, once support ends I might even try my hand at a mod or two (though I don’t think I’ll be coming close to the skill most of the modding community already has).
 
What's the meaning of "support ends"? Does that mean this?: When Planet Zoo stopped planning and releasing new DLC packs featuring new species and some subspecies.
 
What's the meaning of "support ends"? Does that mean this?: When Planet Zoo stopped planning and releasing new DLC packs featuring new species and some subspecies.
Yeah pretty much, when no more dlc packs are to come and the development of the game is no more than the odd bug fix.
 
Slightly off topic but only a bit. Something I have always wanted to do is a have a base zoo that develops with each dlc. Because I appear to be allergic to actually finishing things, that hasn’t happened.

But the (possible) approach of the end of support has really pushed me to do this so I’m working on that now and this time I’m really determined to do that and have the base zoo finished by September.

I was going to make space for every animal but my disappointment with the black rhino means I will need to be a bit more selective.

Back on topic a bit more, my plan is to have every dlc and the base game represented in some way so it will reflect the journey we have been on over the last years.
 
I'm worried. I still wanted and hoped and that Planet Zoo will have African leopard (the most), baboon, perentie lizard, and adoptable fish species. I spent three to four years waiting to see if those will be in Planet Zoo until support really end for good.
 
Guys, this thread is very specifically about what we do when support ends and if we are holding back on projects BECAUSE OF THE END, not because x species are missing. Can we please NOT turn this into another aggressive "BIRDS!!!!111" thread?

Most of us are frustrated by the lack of something. Birds, monkeys, animals that are common in a zoo in asia, oceania etc. but aren't in the game so we can't build a zoo how it would be typical in area X.
But can we, for once, at least in this one thread, appreciate the game for what IT IS or what we can make of it through mods, implied exhibits, you name it, instead of what it is NOT?
Fair point, except the two are intimately tied together. For example, at the moment I am holding off on creating an Amazon area because of the lack of birds and monkeys. If support ends I’ll make do with whatever we have at that point. Therefore, I am holding off on an Amazon section until either we get birds and monkeys, or support ends.
 
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Fair point, except the two are intimately tied together. For example, at the moment I am holding off on creating an Amazon area because of the lack of birds and monkeys. If support ends I’ll make do with whatever we have at that point. Therefore, I am holding off on an Amazon section until either we get birds and monkeys, or support ends.
That's "I'm holding off with a project to see if we got XYZ at the end, which would be useful, but wouldn't decide between life and death of a project." vs. "I AM HOLDING OFF WITH EVERYTHING BECAUSE BIRDS!!!11"

Totally different vibes. We kind of were at that point pre the australia pack and some additions with australia sections, I think. And personally I'd be more motivated to build a tropical hall if we got small monkeys as walkable exhibits or something. Doesn't mean I will never build a tropical hall.
 
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