Feeling Dirty - Soiled my game experience - Guardian site reset grind

[T00 EL1TE]

I feel ashamed for resetting Guardian site repeatedly until I had all possible materials (except only gathered 20 blueprints).

I feel like I've soiled my experience and with this I feel like it's hard to log in suddenly.

I like to play games and allow discovery (even if there are things I would never discover alone) to chart my journey through the game, especially in a sandbox game.

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

 

[SteveWW57]

It was your decision to do it this way. You could have visited several sites or left this one and returned later. It appears that you wanted guardian materials NOW, so must live with your choice. Did you really need the Guardian stuff, or just going after it because many CMDRs say that you must have it?

Steve

 

[zimms]

Some of us only have a couple of decades left, so they have to speed up the "just playing".

 

[Northpin]

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

You can redeem yourself (and dump all materials in the process) by doing a clear save.

But why would you do that and why would you feel dirty?
That's how instancing works in basically any game. You enter the dungeon, clear it, then get out to reset the instance, then you enter the dungeon again, mobs have respawned, you clear the dungeon and get the drops and the experience. Then you get out to reset the instance...And so on and so forth.

 

[Factabulous]

Players: I relog grinded this Guardian site - it was terrible!
Also Players: I tried to relog grind this Settlement but it was just empty - it was terrible!

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

Generally not in-game.
- some of them you can possibly get rid of by buying Tech Broker modules (the ones that give you one module, not the ones where you pay to unlock), then selling the module
- if you ask Support nicely they might be able to take them off you

 

[ste234]

The guardian weapons arent very useful so i wouldnt worry about it - its not like you'll have made yourself overpowered. Also consider theres over 100 material types and the guardian sites only supply a tiny fraction of the them - you've still got loads of other stuff you'll need to collect, even if you filled up completely on the materials that site had

 

[Weps]

Why would you even feel dirty? This is a commercial video game, where game mechanics are sometimes dictated by non-developers with specific objectives such as player metrics and engagement. If the guardian gameplay loop would have been designed for the player's experience alone, they could have just added some stashes with hundreds of mats each so that you could collect everything by exploring a single ruin just once. It's not designed that way, it's designed to keep you playing for a while longer, so I don't understand why you would feel ashamed about it.

It's not a work of art.
It's not a holy relic.
It's not a religious ritual.
It's just a video game.

I for one say, keep your mats, enjoy spending them - and if it makes you feel any better, just imagine you were not relogging, but your character was going back to your ship for a nap and some additional O2.

 

[Disemboweled Ego]

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

If you do more relogging to unlock all the guardian weapons you can synth ammo for them to get rid of the materials and redeem yourself.

 

[ste234]

On discovery side, some people seem to regard using the third party collaboration apps or guides as cheating, especially new players. However the elite universe is based on the real one and the chances of any one person making all the discoveries is zero, much as in real life. The game is designed to be played collaboratively, with cmdrs sharing their discoveries with the community and the community working together to solve the mysteries and win the war

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

This is going to sound mean and preaching, but it is not meant to be. Think of a parent giving his child a stern talk after it did something stupid .

[...] only gathered 20 blueprints [...]

[...] I feel like it's hard to log in suddenly [...]

You "only" gathered 20 blueprints? There is no activity in-game that required you to get 20 blueprints at once. You decided to grind because you wanted it all at once. What you are feeling is the well deserved burnout after needlessly grinding because either some guide said to do so, or because you were greedy.

The best advice to give is: Take a break for now until it itches you to go back to the game. And avoid those one-stop-grab-all grind sessions in the future.

There are people here who mock the "just play the game" advice, but it is the best one to give. I have done many, many guardian sites for blueprints; let me count: I unlocked the FSD booster, Guardian MRP, HRP, PD, shield booster and Power Plant, and one fighter, small and medium fixed Gauss Cannons and Shard Cannons, and four Salvation Plasma Chargers and Shard Cannons. That's all stuff I can remember I needed blueprints and guardian materials for, and that makes 19 blueprints I collected from guardian sites. Maybe there are more, I don't remember.

But of course I didn't collect them all at once, why would I? I would never have needed them all at once. And neither do you, probably. The FSD booster is almost mandatory, but the other guardian modules are optional to useless (the MRPs and HRPs are nice-ish, the PD and PP are kind of useless an were probably a waste).

I did all my unlocks over time not exactly when I needed them, but when I thought it was a good idea to do so. The first one of course was the guardian FSD booster, and once you got that and a somewhat proper build, it's a matter of a single two hour play session to jump over to guardian space, collect one, two or a handful blueprints and the necessary materials, and jump back. That's hardly a grind.

What you did was crush your soul voluntarily. If you learned that lesson, there is no need to redeem yourself, the burnt out feeling is punishment enough . So take a break, and don't do it again .

 

[Ydiss]

Players: I relog grinded this Guardian site - it was terrible!
Also Players: I tried to relog grind this Settlement but it was just empty - it was terrible!

To be fair, this particular topic falls outside of both of those scenarios. I've certainly never felt "dirty" enough to ask how I can undo any "relog" progress I've made.

If I can relog it faster, I'm doing it and also reserve the right to say it's not particularly well designed that way.

 

[rootsrat]

I feel ashamed for resetting Guardian site repeatedly until I had all possible materials (except only gathered 20 blueprints).

I feel like I've soiled my experience and with this I feel like it's hard to log in suddenly.

I like to play games and allow discovery (even if there are things I would never discover alone) to chart my journey through the game, especially in a sandbox game.

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

Don't feel bad, I have relogged yesterday in order to farm Settlement Defence Plans from a crashed satellite

It does feel dirty, if you have totally different playstyle - it was the 2nd time in my 5k hours career when I relogged. Think of it as a time saving... Especially if it was your umpenth visit to these locations.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

@Ydiss
That's probably because the game was never designed with relogging in mind... just saying.

 

[Miscellaneous]

I feel ashamed for resetting Guardian site repeatedly until I had all possible materials (except only gathered 20 blueprints).

I feel like I've soiled my experience and with this I feel like it's hard to log in suddenly.

I like to play games and allow discovery (even if there are things I would never discover alone) to chart my journey through the game, especially in a sandbox game.

Any way to dump the guardian materials I got?

Oh CMDR Yoshi Tera, as a clean member of the holy order of CMDRs who never even been there nor installed any non-human tech,

We douse you in the cleansing suds of Perez Ring beer with a chaser of Indi Bourbon. Your penance acts is to burn three guides and go on a mission of exploration.

 

[yianniv]

@Ydiss
That's probably because the game was never designed with relogging in mind... just saying.

It was barely designed with "we value your time" in mind, as well.

 

[T00 EL1TE]

Thanks all for the replies. After reading them and some reflection, I've decided to live with my decision.

There were some really good points all around;

• I made this decision to do it this way, so I'm going to live with it
• instancing was the design, not designed entirely for the experience alone
• guardian tech doesn't fill the role to gear for every situation, mostly for AX
• feeling bad about it was punishment enough

I appreciate all the contributors. Thanks ED community for being here when I needed you.

07

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

if you still feel bad about it, you can always pay penance by going to ShinDez, Sol or Deciat in open in a paper plane and announcing yourself to the local audience. I am sure they will help you out .

 

[Shadowsnog]

im generally against using such features as well. mainly for pretty much the same reason as you: i think it devalues the experience.
however
i think it only fair to occasionaly use such feature for my gain if the game has bugs that other times ruin the experience as well. and guardian site relogs are the one where i exercise this 'right' (not always tho).
example: i got a covert odyssey mission to retrieve item, spent more than half an hour sneaking to the location only to find the locker empty- relog needed- progress lost- fun ruined. so then when i felt the need to get some new guardian weapon i just went for the relog method.
balance of the universe is maintained.

 

[SteveWW57]

Statistically, find settlement defence plans (SDPs) as you play, even when checking the most likely places for them to spawn, it is likely to take a lifetime to get the 15 for the engineering unlock. At least with the relog option you can find the things in a reasonable amount of play time, and can then get on with playing with satisfaction.

Or you forego that engineer chain and get headshot damage some other way. I know some are completionists and must tick off everything available.

Steve